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[Dirty Starfish]

I don't know about all of you, but I'm seeing a hell of a lot more SRMs than I used to. Obviously Laservomit is still king, but could we have a contender to the throne?

[Scout Derek]

SRMs are fun, I admit.

Wait till the Cyclops hit the field, then we might have a contender

[Gas Guzzler]

Dirty Starfish, on 22 April 2016 - 10:22 AM, said:

I don't know about all of you, but I'm seeing a hell of a lot more SRMs than I used to. Obviously Laservomit is still king, but could we have a contender to the throne?

SRMs are meta, and are definitely a contender. There are situations where SRMs are unanimously better than lasers... the community has been slow to catch on to this though, and still make claims like "laser vomit meta is so stale". For anyone who plays competitively, SRMs are used all the time.

[Alan Davion]

The ARC-5W with 9 missile hardpoints could be a real menace if it were properly outfitted with SRMs/SSRMs.

Most of the 5Ws I see though have a mix if Medium Lasers, LRMs and SRMs. Usually something like 2-4 ML, 2 LRM15 and about 4 SRM4. Which is a fairly solid build on the surface, but it's trying to fight in a middle ground that just doesn't exist here in MWO.

Either go full hog and fill it with LRM5s for the long range game, or SRMs to brawl like a monster.

[Obadiah333]

IS are set up to brawl. IS SRM's are very strong. They would have been king long ago if hit-reg issues hadn't made them a 50/50 if the damage was going to register or not.

They are being used extensively (and very successfully) in the 4v4 scouting missions. I think they will only get stronger, until they get nerfed into oblivion, which is not an 'if' issue, but a 'when'.

[Scout Derek]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 April 2016 - 10:26 AM, said:

SRMs are meta, and are definitely a contender. There are situations where SRMs are unanimously better than lasers... the community has been slow to catch on to this though, and still make claims like "laser vomit meta is so stale". For anyone who plays competitively, SRMs are used all the time.

Because it's easy to point and click.

SRMs are different though, a bit. They take time to hit their target.

But when they hit... oh man, the DMG is punishing, especially after 5-7 Salvoes of SRM6 or 4.

[Gas Guzzler]

Alan Davion, on 22 April 2016 - 10:29 AM, said:

The ARC-5W with 9 missile hardpoints could be a real menace if it were properly outfitted with SRMs/SSRMs.

Most of the 5Ws I see though have a mix if Medium Lasers, LRMs and SRMs. Usually something like 2-4 ML, 2 LRM15 and about 4 SRM4. Which is a fairly solid build on the surface, but it's trying to fight in a middle ground that just doesn't exist here in MWO.

Either go full hog and fill it with LRM5s for the long range game, or SRMs to brawl like a monster.

How do 5Ws mount medium lasers without energy hardpoints?

[Scout Derek]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 April 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

How do 5Ws mount medium lasers without energy hardpoints?

I was going to ask that too, maybe he got that mixed up with the 5S? *shrugs*

[Tordin]

That day SURMS will be more meta than any energy weapon. So many tears, so many.. SO MANY!

[Gas Guzzler]

Scout Derek, on 22 April 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

Because it's easy to point and click.

SRMs are different though, a bit. They take time to hit their target.

But when they hit... oh man, the DMG is punishing, especially after 5-7 Salvoes of SRM6 or 4.

Lasers have their own set of hurdles.

SRMs are just amazing brawling weapons.

[Scout Derek]

Tordin, on 22 April 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:

That day SURMS will be more meta than any energy weapon. So many tears, so many.. SO MANY!

Wait till the Thunderbolt missile arrives....

Pinpoint damage

[Gas Guzzler]

Tordin, on 22 April 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:

That day SURMS will be more meta than any energy weapon. So many tears, so many.. SO MANY!

SRMs are more meta than Small lasers, PPCs, ERPPCs, easily, and just as meta as lasers in general.

[Tordin]

Hail the surm god then

[Alan Davion]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 April 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

How do 5Ws mount medium lasers without energy hardpoints?

Scout Derek, on 22 April 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:

I was going to ask that too, maybe he got that mixed up with the 5S? *shrugs*

Damnit, I derped on that one. Haven't been feeling too well lately. Brain is just in a constant haze.

[Scout Derek]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 April 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

Lasers have their own set of hurdles.

SRMs are just amazing brawling weapons.

I like them with mechs that have at least 3 M hardpoints, and can move fast or durable. I like them in larger quantities too, but being lean with 3 SRM6 and having speed is punishing, I do this best with my Orion IIC (O), 3 SRM6+ Artemis, UAC/20, 2 mediums, biggest engine and enough ammo, not too much and not too little. Then moving at 83KPH with a 70+ Damage alpha is gruesome, I've beaten down just about everything below and about 10 tons up above my 75 ton Orion IIC.

[Karl Streiger]

Always loved my Shrimps especially when served with charged particles (love this combo - 90m Minimum Who cases)
The spread is so thight its hard not to hit a single location with one salvo

[Jazzbandit1313]

I for one welcome our new meta overlords.

Edited by Jazzbandit1313, 22 April 2016 - 10:40 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Scout Derek, on 22 April 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

SRMs are fun, I admit.

Wait till the Cyclops hit the field, then we might have a contender

I seriously doubt it.

Even with a 400, the Cyclops ain't gonna be a outracing Mediums. Ont the otherhand, it will be a Big Target, with mediocre (at best) Geometry, that will need MASSIVE structure buffs to XL...... and probably get a Huge Movement Archetype.

So if people think slapping it full of Spread Weapons with a 270 meter MAXIMUM range, and a 150 meter or less effective one?

Please, bring it on, I can't wait to start filling my coffers at the expense of Dead Cyclops.

used to call aSRM racks aS(s)R(a)Ms for a reason in my TT days.

[Obadiah333]

Big and fast is good for SRM, but so is just BIG! Nothing like rounding a corner into the face of an atlas with a butt-load of SRM6 and an AC20. No way you are going to out dps that beast. Just take your lumps and hope you pay attention better next match.

[Scout Derek]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 April 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

I seriously doubt it.

Even with a 400, the Cyclops ain't gonna be a outracing Mediums. Ont the otherhand, it will be a Big Target, with mediocre (at best) Geometry, that will need MASSIVE structure buffs to XL...... and probably get a Huge Movement Archetype.

So if people think slapping it full of Spread Weapons with a 270 meter MAXIMUM range, and a 150 meter or less effective one?

Please, bring it on, I can't wait to start filling my coffers at the expense of Dead Cyclops.

used to call aSRM racks aS(s)R(a)Ms for a reason in my TT days.

I'll be hiding in the deepest corners of the map... waiting for your juicy leg or rear torso to reveal itself.

Then watch as I either core you out or strip you of a ST, and then....

Then I will take pleasure in taking you apart... slowly.