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[Edward Radenovic-Espinueva]

Just putting it out there.... A YEN-LO-WANG IIC

Would be a nice to fit and try some other "20" in that right-arm: Clan LB20-X or Clan Ultra AC/20. Clan ER Mediums would replace the IS ones. The weight and slots saved would allow for interesting non-weapon options: Jump jets, MASC, Targeting Computer, Active Probe, AMS. To put it on par with the Hunchback ICC and its 2 Ultra AC/20s give each CN9 IIC variant a quirk that allows it to fire its right arm weapon twice as fast, depending on the specific weapon of the the right arm module. Specifically Clan AC/20, LB20-X, Ultra/20, LRM 20 w/ Artemis. You could also increase the circumferance of the shield arm and shoulder blade.

Thats all

Edited by Edward Radenovic-Espinueva, 23 April 2016 - 06:44 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

There is no Centurion IIC.

There will never be one.
Stop trying to steal our GLORIOUS MECHS, Clanner!

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

http://www.sarna.net...rion_(OmniMech)

This ^ ?

What year is it again? I can't remember.

edit - fixed link

Edited by I Zeratul I, 23 April 2016 - 07:16 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

I Zeratul I, on 23 April 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

http://www.sarna.net...rion_(OmniMech)

This ^ ?

What year is it again? I can't remember.

It's an Inner Sphere omnimech based on the Inner Sphere battlemech.

OP is asking specifically for clan versions, WHICH DON'T EXIST.

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 23 April 2016 - 07:17 AM, said:

It's an Inner Sphere omnimech based on the Inner Sphere battlemech.

OP is asking specifically for clan versions, WHICH DON'T EXIST.

the one mech lacking a IIC that has never made sense.... the Atlas.

[An Innocent Urbie]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

the one mech lacking a IIC that has never made sense.... the Atlas.

I see your Atlas IIC and I raise it with Urbie IIC!

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

the one mech lacking a IIC that has never made sense.... the Atlas.

IIC mechs are a complete redesign and since Kerensky himself designed (well specified the design requirements) for the Atlas there is no way they'd dishonor him by redesigning the mech.

[GonaDie]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

the one mech lacking a IIC that has never made sense.... the Atlas.

Yeah,

Orion IIC is like, the most revered mech in the Clans, but they suddenly don't give a crap about a mech created by Kerensky himself.

[Barantor]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

the one mech lacking a IIC that has never made sense.... the Atlas.

Atlas II is basically the Atlas IIC, because only the clans had it after the Exodus and they were still using them even when they came back to the IS.

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First fielded in 2765,^[7] the Atlas II was designed by the Hegemony Research and Development Department, Weapons Division of the original Star League to maintain the technological edge over the other Great Houses. It was exclusively for the SLDF's Royal Regiments.^[7]
In 2785, when General Aleksandr Kerensky put out his call for loyal forces to join him in his Exodus, every Atlas II pilot responded and left with him, leaving none of these designs behind. These 'Mechs are prized by the Clans when they were found. One such 'Mech was spotted in 3052 during the Battle of Tukayyid

[Bishop Steiner]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 23 April 2016 - 08:52 AM, said:

IIC mechs are a complete redesign and since Kerensky himself designed (well specified the design requirements) for the Atlas there is no way they'd dishonor him by redesigning the mech.

If that was true they wouldn't have redesigned the mech the Founder drove, either. All IICs would simply be clan tech versions of the Protector.

Also, calling for a mech to be

“ A 'Mech as powerful as possible, as impenetrable as possible, and as ugly and foreboding as conceivable, so that fear itself will be our ally. ”


And actually designing it, well, I think to be a tad hyperbolic. It's like when the Marine Corp or Air Force give "specs" for a new combat vehicle. It's basic parameters, not nuts and bolts design.

Barantor, on 23 April 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:

Atlas II is basically the Atlas IIC, because only the clans had it after the Exodus and they were still using them even when they came back to the IS.

Atlas II is made with Clan Tech?!?!?!??!

No, no it's not my friend.

[Barantor]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 09:03 AM, said:

Atlas II is made with Clan Tech?!?!?!??!

No, no it's not my friend.

Yup...

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AS7-D-H Kerensky The custom version used by Nicholas Kerensky, this version of the Atlas II retains the weapon array of the original but swaps the Inner Sphere components for more advanced Clan equivalents. It also adds a second SRM launcher. All the missile systems are equipped with Artemis IV fire control systems. Double heat sinks were replaced with their less bulky Clan equivalents and increased to nineteen. The ferro-fibrous armor protection remains the same, but again was replaced by more compact Clan version. To handle electronic warfare duties, a small ECM Suite and Active Probe were added to the center torso. The CASE systems were integrated into the side torsos, as was common to all Clan designs. BV (2.0) = 2,777

Granted it is Kerensky's version and we don't get any details about the Tukayyid ones having or not having clan tech, but I would think they would given the age of the mechs by the time they came back to the Inner Sphere.

Maybe we can ask Mr. Bills about this or the Catalyst team via twitter.

Edited by Barantor, 23 April 2016 - 09:08 AM.

[GonaDie]

Barantor, on 23 April 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:

Atlas II is basically the Atlas IIC, because only the clans had it after the Exodus and they were still using them even when they came back to the IS.

Well, it was built before The Founding, so it's not a Clan mech, but yeah, it's the closest thing to IIC.

[Bishop Steiner]

Barantor, on 23 April 2016 - 09:06 AM, said:

Yup...

Yes. One mech, a custom mech was upgraded (well, two with Devlin Stones, but does anyone count dark age?), . Stop trolling bro, lol.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 23 April 2016 - 09:09 AM.

[Barantor]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 09:07 AM, said:

Yes. One mech, a custom mech was upgraded. Stop trolling bro, lol.

Just lore trolling, carry on lol.

On topic:

Couple of IS omnis come out within 6 years or so of the battle of Tukayyid. Some have completely different weight classes than their previous models.

[FupDup]

I decided to make a Centurion IIC in SSW just for funzies. I added small differences compared to the IS Centy because a lot of IIC's do that.

Engine: XL300
Structure: Endo
Armor: Ferro 8.5 tons (96.44% of max)
Heatsinks: 10 Dubs
Guns: 2 MPL (CT), 1 UAC/10 (RA, 2 tons ammo), 2 SSRM4 (LT, 1 ton ammo), 1 ERSL (head), 4 JJs (2 per leg)

[dervishx5]

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 09:07 AM, said:

Yes. One mech, a custom mech was upgraded (well, two with Devlin Stones, but does anyone count dark age?), . Stop trolling bro, lol.

There's also the Atlas (C), which is clan but has a base IS chassis.

A Clan-tech retrofit of the AS7-D Atlas, the Atlas C replaced the older autocannon and missile launchers with a Clan standard Ultra AC/20, Swarm LRM compatible LRM-20, and Streak SRM-6 launchers; but the Inner Sphere Medium Lasers remained unchanged. Lighter Clan components allowed the Atlas C to carry 3 tons of autocannon ammunition.

Plus you're forgetting the whole lore thing where most of the Atlas pilots chose to stay in the Inner Sphere rather than go with Kerensky.

Edited by dervishx5, 23 April 2016 - 12:52 PM.

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[Alan Davion]

I Zeratul I, on 23 April 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

http://www.sarna.net...rion_(OmniMech)

This ^ ?

What year is it again? I can't remember.

edit - fixed link

Your link is still broken. At least for me. Anyone else having trouble with it?

[Bishop Steiner]

dervishx5, on 23 April 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

There's also the Atlas (C), which is clan but has a base IS chassis.

A Clan-tech retrofit of the AS7-D Atlas, the Atlas C replaced the older autocannon and missile launchers with a Clan standard Ultra AC/20, Swarm LRM compatible LRM-20, and Streak SRM-6 launchers; but the Inner Sphere Medium Lasers remained unchanged. Lighter Clan components allowed the Atlas C to carry 3 tons of autocannon ammunition.

Plus you're forgetting the whole lore thing where most of the Atlas pilots chose to stay in the Inner Sphere rather than go with Kerensky.

Actually, I'm not.

The Orion was a largely outdated chassis that the SLDF army was not using in bulk, either, and Kerensky piloted one as a legacy, because it was hit first mech. You'll note no specific SLDF models, no Royal Brigades.

Yet we get a IIC because it's the founder's mech. The Atlas was the mech that DeChavilier, the founders best friend and closest confidant piloted and used to clear the path to the SLDF palace, to end the Amaris Coupe.

I would submit, by lore that should have made it as desirable as any to create a IIC. The only lore reason I can think of to exclude it, which would fit, was Nicholas Kerensky's delusions, paranoia and fears that it would dilute the myth of the Kerensky greatness, and weaken the hold of his delusional mythology. THAT I could see.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Commando IIC

Bishop Steiner, on 23 April 2016 - 01:14 PM, said:

Actually, I'm not.

The Orion was a largely outdated chassis that the SLDF army was not using in bulk, either, and Kerensky piloted one as a legacy, because it was hit first mech. You'll note no specific SLDF models, no Royal Brigades.

Yet we get a IIC because it's the founder's mech. The Atlas was the mech that DeChavilier, the founders best friend and closest confidant piloted and used to clear the path to the SLDF palace, to end the Amaris Coupe.

I would submit, by lore that should have made it as desirable as any to create a IIC. The only lore reason I can think of to exclude it, which would fit, was Nicholas Kerensky's delusions, paranoia and fears that it would dilute the myth of the Kerensky greatness, and weaken the hold of his delusional mythology. THAT I could see.

Atlas IIC when they had left the IS with only finite materials and even when the worlds were settled, very few worlds to tap for more resources. The Atlas didn't really seem like a good choice for a IIC mech from their point of view, especially when Kerensky was on his "save as many resources as possible, no war, duel **** out."