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[kesuga7]

• 70 Meter Jump Height
  
• 50% PPC velocity
  
• 15% PPC heat reduction
  
• 98 KPH
  
• 15 Doubles
  
• Twin arm Mounted ER PPC's
  
• Smaller mech size then other poptart

Even if I don't deal loads of damage every match -ITS so fun




*note - have not been cockpitted so far and have not lost my ppc arm before dying
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...391e33a6d6747aa


114 KPH with 12 doubles and a small laser with two normal ppc's
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fc949f6136a4046

Edited by kesuga7, 17 April 2016 - 11:51 PM.

[TercieI]

I think the BJ-3 does it better. Yeah, it's slower and has two less JJ but it needs them less because the mounts are way, way better. The quirks are very similar (even slightly favoring the BJ-3) and the mounts and model heavily favor the BJ-3. I enjoyed that build on the VND-1AA, but I'd take the BJ-3 every time if it was a choice.

[kesuga7]

TercieI, on 18 April 2016 - 03:31 PM, said:

I think the BJ-3 does it better. Yeah, it's slower and has two less JJ but it needs them less because the mounts are way, way better. The quirks are very similar (even slightly favoring the BJ-3) and the mounts and model heavily favor the BJ-3. I enjoyed that build on the VND-1AA, but I'd take the BJ-3 every time if it was a choice.

yeah the Blackjack has great mounts

but you can't the deny fun of 70 meter jumpheight with twin ppc

[Starbomber109]

Are you stoked for the viper?

[epikt]

I'm with Terciel, the BJ-3 is in any way superior to the Vindicator. It has better hitboxes, better mounts and better heat reduction quirks.
On the other hand the Vindicator has a vulnerable profile, that it needs to expose a lot in order to shoot because of the low mounted weapon. As for the high jumpjets count... a poptart does not need to jump high, it only needs to jump high enough. And also to fall back fast behind cover: I often find the Vindicator flies too fast and thus take ages to decelerate and fall back, making it easier for the enemy to shoot back.

[jss78]

epikt, on 19 April 2016 - 01:31 AM, said:

I'm with Terciel, the BJ-3 is in any way superior to the Vindicator. It has better hitboxes, better mounts and better heat reduction quirks.
On the other hand the Vindicator has a vulnerable profile, that it needs to expose a lot in order to shoot because of the low mounted weapon. As for the high jumpjets count... a poptart does not need to jump high, it only needs to jump high enough. And also to fall back fast behind cover: I often find the Vindicator flies too fast and thus take ages to decelerate and fall back, making it easier for the enemy to shoot back.

I agree on all accounts except the Vindicator having bad hit-boxes. They actually feel fine to me, roll damage well, in the usual humanoid fashion. Of course with a slow 45-tonner that'll only carry you so far.

Apart from that, obviously no comparison with BJ-3 vs. VND-1AA, the Blackjack is simply a better layout in this game. I want to love the Vindicator -- I like the general concept of a 45-tonner fire-support mech, and it's a Capellan workhorse. But the real killer is that BJ-3 is a Capellan mech also, so even role-play doesn't necessitate going with the Vindicator.

[TercieI]

kesuga7, on 18 April 2016 - 09:46 PM, said:

yeah the Blackjack has great mounts

but you can't the deny fun of 70 meter jumpheight with twin ppc

Oh like I said, it was fun (and I ran all 6JJ because ZOOM). The point is the BJ doesn't need to expose as much to shoot, so it's safer and more effective even if it has a little less vertical.