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[Xocoyol Zaraoul]

Simple, short, and sweet:

Does anyone here have a joystick that they'd recommend for MWO? Right now I'm using a gaming mouse, but I'm wanting to experiment with joysticks like I did back in MW3 and 4.



I'm thinking it might make the game a bit more fun and interesting, I only have a dusted-off WingMan Attack 2.

[Ghogiel]

[Spheroid]

You understand that anything that is not a mouse is massive downgrade in angular precision correct? I hope you like running Oxides and Jenner IICs exclussively.

Edited by Spheroid, 27 April 2016 - 10:13 AM.

[man du]

Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It is a right hand stick that I use in my left hand. That and my mouse and I never need to touch the keyboard. I would recommend getting some sticky tack to put on the base at the bottom to keep it from moving.

[Alistair Winter]

Obligatory:

Spoiler

[Lazor Sharp]

I like the Saitek X-52 Pro...... Played MW2-4 with various Joy Sticks, and the X-52 is the best........

[Metus regem]

Alistair Winter, on 27 April 2016 - 10:21 AM, said:

Obligatory:

Spoiler

And here I was going to suggest this:

[Xocoyol Zaraoul]

Spheroid, on 27 April 2016 - 10:12 AM, said:

You understand that anything that is not a mouse is massive downgrade in angular precision correct? I hope you like running Oxides and Jenner IICs exclussively.

I do understand that, yes

[WarHippy]

[man du]

Spheroid, on 27 April 2016 - 10:12 AM, said:

You understand that anything that is not a mouse is massive downgrade in angular precision correct? I hope you like running Oxides and Jenner IICs exclussively.

The joystick is best used for analog throttle and turning while the mouse is still used for torso twisting/firing weapons. My fingers get lost on keyboards very easily and I had an immediate jump in play quality when I started using it. For me it is the only way I could enjoy playing this game. And with my 3 screen set up, that immersion, though!

[GenJack]

Spheroid, on 27 April 2016 - 10:12 AM, said:

You understand that anything that is not a mouse is massive downgrade in angular precision correct? I hope you like running Oxides and Jenner IICs exclussively.

Ok, so ... namely you are using the joystick wrong for mwo here.

This is what you need to do....

1. if you are right handed use the Joystick in your left hand.

2. Disregard the Throttle, instead make the throttle the joystick itself. IE. You move the Stick forward you go forward, pull back.... you get the idea

3. Make the roll (left and right) your turning like you normally would.

4. In your right hand use your mouse like you normally would.

5. Set up your weapon groups however you like them.

You will notice a massive increase in control during a fight all thanks to me!

[man du]

GenJack, on 27 April 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:

Ok, so ... namely you are using the joystick wrong for mwo here.

This is what you need to do....

1. if you are right handed use the Joystick in your left hand.

2. Disregard the Throttle, instead make the throttle the joystick itself. IE. You move the Stick forward you go forward, pull back.... you get the idea

3. Make the roll (left and right) your turning like you normally would.

4. In your right hand use your mouse like you normally would.

5. Set up your weapon groups however you like them.

You will notice a massive increase in control during a fight all thanks to me!

This, but I like to use the twist for turning.

[Metus regem]

WarHippy, on 27 April 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

I have one of those, damned if I can make it work anymore, long since got rid of the X-box, but I still have that controller some where.....

[WarHippy]

Metus regem, on 27 April 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

I have one of those, damned if I can make it work anymore, long since got rid of the X-box, but I still have that controller some where.....

I have mine as well. I really should dig it out from under the bed and try to get that game running again as it really was a lot of fun.

[Xocoyol Zaraoul]

I've been looking at the Saitek X52's left control/throttle stick and thinking it would be nice for movement.

Using the joystick for movement like GenJack said sounds wonderful.

[Death Proof]

I experimented with using a joystick in my left hand for throttle and turning and a mouse in my right hand for twisting and aiming; it had its advantages, but ultimately I couldn't get used to it and found I'm way more comfortable using keyboard and mouse from the 25+ years of playing computer games that way.

[Thorqemada]

Left Hand Joystick and Mouse works really good - i have a cheap Logitech Attack 3 Joystick that is symmetrical shaped to use for both left and right Hand.

Probably the cheap solution to get yourself a feeling if such a Setup would work out for you.

[Domenoth]

Xocoyol Zaraoul, on 27 April 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

I've been looking at the Saitek X52's left control/throttle stick and thinking it would be nice for movement.

Using the joystick for movement like GenJack said sounds wonderful.

evilC, on 03 November 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

Full app uploaded, I dubbed it "MWO Relative Throttle".



INSTRUCTIONS

Set Up

Part A: Configure Input Joystick.

• Change the Joystick ID selector to a new value.
  
• Waggle your stick. If the values change in the Debugging readout, you have found the correct stick ID.
  
• Make sure you have the desired axis selected too.
  
• IMPORTANT! Adjust the value in the Deadzone % box until the Adjusted axis value sits at 0.0 when the stick is at neutral.
  
  The script will behave weirdly if you get this bit wrong!

Part B: Ensure MWO is correctly bound to the virtual stick, not the real one!

• Go to the Bindings tab in the script.
  
• Bind a keyboard key to Bind Axis To Game.
  
• Tab into MWO.
  
• Go to the MWO options and hit the button to bind the throttle axis.
  
• While it is waiting for you to move the axis, hit the key you bound to Bind Axis To Game.
  
  MWO should now bind the throttle to the virtual stick.

Tweaking


To alter the rate at which the physical stick moves the throttle, you can adjust the Change Factor box. This is a factor, so a value of 1 would change speed by the same amount as you moved the stick, 0.5 would change the speed by half as much as you moved the stick.
ie throttle is at 0 (neutral).
You instantly move the stick to full forwards...
Change Factor of 1: Speed is instantly set to 100%
Change Factor of 0.5: Speed is set to 50%, then next tick (10ms later), set to 100%.

Download:
http://evilc.com/fil...ve_throttle.zip

I use the Thrustmaster T1600M and I'm very happy with it. At least after I started using (and tweaked) evilC's relative throttle app so I don't have to push the stick forward all the time to stay at top speed.

[man du]

Domenoth, on 27 April 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

I use the Thrustmaster T1600M and I'm very happy with it. At least after I started using (and tweaked) evilC's relative throttle app so I don't have to push the stick forward all the time to stay at top speed.

I used to use the very same Thrustmaster, but I went through two of them. I don't gingerly pilot a 'Mech and I find that the Thrustmasters break too easily. There's a plastic bit in the handle that eventually snaps off after many vigorous turns with the twisty axis. The ambidextrous-ness is nice though.

That throttle app looks really cool, though I think that might be too much work for me.

[Zolaz]

G-13 ... use the thumbstick for throttle and legs. Mouse for torso and guns.