#1
Posted 29 April 2016 - 05:57 AM
But with this event I guess there will be more noob players so it doesn't matter as much.
Now, the problem is I don't know what would be a good deck for invasion and a decent mech for scout missions. Not that I have much choice anyway. So I need your help with that.
I only have:
Ravens: 3L, 2X, 4X
Hunchback: 4G, 4J, 4SP
Warhammer: basic pack 6R, 6D, 7S
All of them elited. No champions, no heroes. And I don't have more free mechbays. Just 6 mill. Cbills.
I know that's not much to work with but that's why I need your help, it's those mechs and the trials.
Thoughts?
Thank you
#2
Posted 29 April 2016 - 10:14 AM
If playing scouting bare in mind you will need a Mech able to fight Light or medium Mechs, in my experience the HBK 4G or 4SP would probably be best for that out of your available Mechs.
For invasion you are likely to want to go heavier, probably the 3 WHMs with your favourite Raven or HBK, but ultimately the deck layout is up to you.
If you want to do well in this game the most overpowered things possible to have are coordination and teamwork, if you are with a large group ask them how you can help, and try to work with them.
Do not be afraid to sacrifice your Mech to give your team an advantage, on the other hand do not needlessly through away a Mech in good condition.
Edited by Rogue Jedi, 29 April 2016 - 10:14 AM.
#3
Posted 29 April 2016 - 01:35 PM
So they merged the solo queue with the group again?
So now there's no reason to not make a one man unit because you'll end up in group queue nevertheless, and freelance has no reason to exist so if you don't want to be a loyalist and you play solo you must create a one man unit, right?
Given the rules for the event and how the things are going I don't think I'll be able to get all the rewards but seemed like a good excuse to try FW at last.
#4
Posted 29 April 2016 - 02:32 PM
Also if you enjoy being able to win without firing a shot...your RVN-3L with ECM and max engine will be very good on the Gather Intel matches.
#5
Posted 29 April 2016 - 02:36 PM
#6
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:32 AM
#8
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:12 PM
XL275 is the biggest XL engine I own so, there's that
#9
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:19 PM
Any of the hunchbacks will do for defense scouting and an ecm raven is great for collecting intelligence.
If your in the hunt for more mechbays, stay merc and max it's loyalty points out. Then choose a faction and go loyalist till you max it out.
#10
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:31 PM
#11
Posted 30 April 2016 - 01:39 PM
And try to play some Invasion games... that should give you a much higher LP pro game.. I think..
#12
Posted 01 May 2016 - 01:10 AM
Sky Hawk, on 30 April 2016 - 01:39 PM, said:
you can no longer do that.
There is now a single Merc reward tree, each faction still has the per faction tree but you have a 10 game probation period on joining a faction before you are officially accepted, and if you break a "permanent" contract there is a 1 week cool down before you can take another, net result is instead of being able to get the 10 free Mechbays in 10 weeks you are now looking at more like 20-30 weeks.
#13
Posted 01 May 2016 - 01:18 AM
Dibujor, on 30 April 2016 - 01:12 PM, said:
XL275 is the biggest XL engine I own so, there's that
I like it. It's very similar to a CDA-X5 I've used as my main scout mech, just with the benefits of ECM. Nice combination of stealth, speed to gather intel, and ability to take down mechs. If it were mine, I'd replace the 2xMPL with 3xML + 1 DHS, to get some ranged poking ability and some tactical flexibility, but really that's up to personal preference.
#14
Posted 01 May 2016 - 07:09 PM
If you're playing IS, go fast. At least on attack, you can evade the defenders until the dropship comes and charge into the square at the last second.
you won't be able to fight with most of your light/mediums
#15
Posted 01 May 2016 - 07:18 PM
I am stuck playing merc, with 200 mechs, split about even half clan half Innersphere. If I had nothing but mechs from one side I would be a loyalist.
#16
Posted 01 May 2016 - 10:31 PM
More consistent, can replace an hbk with the 4J if you want lrms. It's more consistent than the alternative.
Alternate deck: 3x WHM, trial locust. The locust can't really do much, so I recommend dropping it 2nd. If you had any 65 ton heavies, you could run 2x WHM and that then a Raven.
For scouting, the hunchback SP is pretty solid for both modes, the ravens are only really good for gather Intel. There's not much use for a large Las sniper and ravens tend to evaporate in a brawl. Only the 2x or Huggin can hack it at close range.
#17
Posted 01 May 2016 - 11:06 PM
Starbomber109, on 01 May 2016 - 10:31 PM, said:
He can go with 3XWHM (210 tons) and a Raven (35 tons) and still missing 5 ton. No need for the locust...
#18
Posted 01 May 2016 - 11:08 PM
Starbomber109, on 01 May 2016 - 10:31 PM, said:
More consistent, can replace an hbk with the 4J if you want lrms. It's more consistent than the alternative.
Alternate deck: 3x WHM, trial locust. The locust can't really do much, so I recommend dropping it 2nd. If you had any 65 ton heavies, you could run 2x WHM and that then a Raven.
For scouting, the hunchback SP is pretty solid for both modes, the ravens are only really good for gather Intel. There's not much use for a large Las sniper and ravens tend to evaporate in a brawl. Only the 2x or Huggin can hack it at close range.
Pretty much what I was gonna say. HBK-4SP in the first slot, and use it for scouting. WHM-6D in the second, with 5 LLs and arms stripped of armor and the biggest engine you can fit. Third and fourth, doesn't matter which order. Take the HBK-4G and WHM-6R. -4G should be pretty obvious--take the AC/20! And the WHM-6R, go with dual AC/10 and 4x ML, all in the torsos (strip the arms again) and a big engine. OR get daring and dual-Gauss that thing, but be CAREFUL. OR stuff some PPCs into the side torsos. A pair of PPCs and a pair of AC/5s will mach up pretty well for velocity and range.The cooldowns don't sync up well, but that's okay.
NOW, the temptation may be to take the RVN-3L for recon. THIS IS WRONG AND WILL END IN TEARS. Not a BAD mech, per se, but between the challenge event and just how a lot of people play Scouting, it more often than not devolves into 4v4 Skirmish. Your RVN-3L is not equipped for that. It's simply not a DPS machine. If you DO decide to take it, though, do not run the Champion build (twin ERLL). Try to get an Artemis SRM-6 in the RT, and 3x MPL (1x RT, 2x RA), ECM, and the biggest engine you can still fit.
Now, here comes the challenging part. You want to take ammo along in Invasion like for Quick Play--enough to kill all 8 mechs in Testing Grounds. But in Scouting, that's a BIG waste of tonnage and space. If nothing else, I'd rebuild when switching between Scouting and Invasion, taking less ammo and more heat sinks in the former. You'll only have, AT MOST, four targets to engage, and all will be 55 tons or lighter (with the armor and structure of mechs weighing 55 tons or less). Enough ammo to kill three TBRs, really. Go to Testing Grounds, find the three heaviest mechs in there, and core them with just your ammo-dependent weapons. How much ammo did that take? That's all you need in Scouting, AT MOST, rounding DOWN to the half-ton. Plus or minus a half-ton.
For example, in the JR7-O Oxide hero mech, I'll usually run 4.5-5.0 tons of SRM ammo for its four SRM-4s. That's in Quick Play or Invasion. In Scouting, that's easily two more tons than I need. I can swap up to a heavier engine and/or more double heat sinks. And when transitioning from Scouting to Invasion, switch back to the 12v12 build with more ammo, and with a little less speed and heat efficiency.
EXAMPLE:
HBK-4SP for 12v12 Invasion
HBK-4SP for 4v4 Scouting
Small change. OR, you can forego the extra DHS and bump up the engine by a ton for a little more speed.
In case you DO roll RVN-3L, try THIS. The ol' Champion build works fine (as Ravens go) in 12v12, but in Scouting you almost never have to deal with those sorts of ranges. Take something ALMOST brawl-worth instead, and be sure to switch-up which leg you show your enemy frequently--RVN legs are pretty easy to pop nowadays. That left arm is pretty much useless to you, so no point wasting armor on it. If you have to shield, give 'em the LEFT side and preserve the weapons on the right even at the expense of that Guardian ECM.
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