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#1 Requiemking

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 08:17 PM

So, I've seen mention of a build on the Forums, involving a Mist Lynx equipped with a single ERPPC as it's only weapon. I'm planning on building it, but I am curious about their effectiveness in the varying gamemodes. If anyone could suggest which Omnipods I should use and which Gamemodes I should go into, I would be most appreciative.

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 09:57 PM

Its far from meta

But

If you like pop tarting its a fun mech and build to play

Its like a clan version of a single ER PPC/PPC Spider 5D, except slower, smaller and lighter
Light mechs will chew you up if not carefull
Heavier mechs will curse you

Play it for fun
not to be competitive
otherwise save yourself some pain

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 11:29 PM

Trust me, everything I do in this game is for fun. I never play competitively, and I hate using meta builds, hence why I'm here using a Mist Lynx. Knowing me, I'll probably end up taking it into Scout mode for a few kicks. Maybe I'll bring it to Invasion and embarrass some heavies with it.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 03:18 AM

My advice as a closed beta vegeta
Eat the cheese before its gone
When the new batch comes in repeat.

I do not eat cheese exclusively, but it adds to variety, cuz lrm, flame and machine builds get boring after a while
And its part of a balanced diet

Basically to fight the cheese
You gotta eat it now and again
Learn its flavours

Biggest mistake I've made is
Go to an invitational
Without first partaking in cheese, works for pug stains, grass stains and games too.
Don't be a hater till you try it.

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 13 May 2016 - 03:45 AM.


#5 Requiemking

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 04:07 PM

I fully intend to enjoy myself with this build, and make it the mainstay of my dropdeck, right next to the Hellbringer, the Kit Fox/Adder, and the Ice Ferret.

Edited by Requiemking, 13 May 2016 - 07:24 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2016 - 03:38 PM

Only the arms of the mist lynx is different. For right arm the A version for 5% cooldown and 16 more hp and energy hardpoint for the ERPPC. Left arm it depend if you want energy hardpoint 5% cooldown over the D arm 8 more hp.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 04:18 PM

As the self appointed Mist Lynx master of these forums I don't approve of any "sniper" lynx builds, with about 6 tons for equipment you need that equipment to actually spit DPS in the most DMG/ton efficient way and that means cSPLs, anything not that and you might be just a mosquito biting on a fully armoured knight, so you better hope you have malaria (good teammates) to do some actual work for you.

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Posted 17 May 2016 - 02:22 PM

I too saw this build referred to, went out and built it--so much fun! I do 1xCERPPC and a C-ECM.

Afterwards I went and bought the SDR-5D so I could try it on the IS side.

MLX is slower, but you get that extra spread damage. Plus it feels like you get a little more lift with the MLX.

I don't know how to post images on the forums, but first day I played this 'mech, I hit 661 damage, 3 KMDD, 3 Kills, 7 Assists.

I see it's been a couple days since you posted. Hope you followed through--and if not, definitely give it a thought.

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Posted 17 May 2016 - 02:28 PM

I have most certainly followed through, and it is hilariously fun. Of course, I do have to be careful of Lights and faster Mediums, but it is relatively easy to embarrass Heavies and Assaults. Good time to test out that build to, considering that everyone and their mother are trying out the Kodiak.

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 03:00 PM

View PostBrizna, on 16 May 2016 - 04:18 PM, said:

As the self appointed Mist Lynx master of these forums I don't approve of any "sniper" lynx builds, with about 6 tons for equipment you need that equipment to actually spit DPS in the most DMG/ton efficient way and that means cSPLs, anything not that and you might be just a mosquito biting on a fully armoured knight, so you better hope you have malaria (good teammates) to do some actual work for you.


As someone who might not be a Misty master, but has mastered 4 lynxes. I approve of the er-ppc sniper it's fun and different to a lot of other builds and with ecm it will keep you out of way. I've written a bunch of stuff defending the Lynx since it's introduction, but in general the theme here is stay out of sight and use the jump jets to get into hard to reach places.

Edited by Bespoke Cheese Cake, 22 May 2016 - 03:02 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2016 - 05:20 PM

First of all let me clarify that my self awarded tittle of "Master Mist Lynx" was meant as a joke. I do have a lot of experience in them though.

I did start like most people who play the Mist Lynx adhering to the this moto: "@##@# this @@it is SLOW, let's stay away from harms way". I did level a few of them eventually but it wasn't until I was bored to death with MLXs and I was idle one evening that I decided to forego any self preservation instincts and go for knife range build with cSPLs. Turns out that since the natural prey of light mechs are assault and heavy mechs you are faster than them all, so as long as you stay away from light mechs and use you tiny size and the terrain to your advantage you learn to work around your slowness and not be hit as much as you would expect and now that it's quirked for extra durability MLX is a tough little ##### to crack.

Now let's compare 4 cSPLs in an elited MLX, this build spits 8 dmg/s a very respectable figure when you consider it sustains it for 34 seconds (272 dmg) meanwhile any other longer range build takes a huge dip in dps, ERPPC build 3,75dps, ERML build: 6,75dps but much less sustain due to poor heat management.

In the end all mechs have several roles each but all of them have one in common that if they fulfill properly is better than if they don't: kill things. This is achieved by two things, dealing lots of damage and dealing it precisely, SPL is the perfect tool for MLX, it is precise and does a lot of dmg, meanwhile ERML is unprecise and ERPPC lacks raw damage.

TLDR: As long as you manage to not be killed you will do better in 4xcSPL than in any other MLX build because it has much higher DPS, this is fact, the trick is staying alive of course but skill comes from need, and man you learn to make those jump jets shine if you force yourself to make the most of a bad mech like MLX.

Of one thing I am sure, in a few years when MWO is a faded memory I will still remember the MLX and those moments I jumped over entire assault lances flashing my red beams of "tiny" doom at them while they hited the hill behind me with ordinance several times my own weight.

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 08:22 PM

View PostBrizna, on 22 May 2016 - 05:20 PM, said:

First of all let me clarify that my self awarded tittle of "Master Mist Lynx" was meant as a joke. I do have a lot of experience in them though.

I did start like most people who play the Mist Lynx adhering to the this moto: "@##@# this @@it is SLOW, let's stay away from harms way". I did level a few of them eventually but it wasn't until I was bored to death with MLXs and I was idle one evening that I decided to forego any self preservation instincts and go for knife range build with cSPLs. Turns out that since the natural prey of light mechs are assault and heavy mechs you are faster than them all, so as long as you stay away from light mechs and use you tiny size and the terrain to your advantage you learn to work around your slowness and not be hit as much as you would expect and now that it's quirked for extra durability MLX is a tough little ##### to crack.

Now let's compare 4 cSPLs in an elited MLX, this build spits 8 dmg/s a very respectable figure when you consider it sustains it for 34 seconds (272 dmg) meanwhile any other longer range build takes a huge dip in dps, ERPPC build 3,75dps, ERML build: 6,75dps but much less sustain due to poor heat management.

In the end all mechs have several roles each but all of them have one in common that if they fulfill properly is better than if they don't: kill things. This is achieved by two things, dealing lots of damage and dealing it precisely, SPL is the perfect tool for MLX, it is precise and does a lot of dmg, meanwhile ERML is unprecise and ERPPC lacks raw damage.

TLDR: As long as you manage to not be killed you will do better in 4xcSPL than in any other MLX build because it has much higher DPS, this is fact, the trick is staying alive of course but skill comes from need, and man you learn to make those jump jets shine if you force yourself to make the most of a bad mech like MLX.

Of one thing I am sure, in a few years when MWO is a faded memory I will still remember the MLX and those moments I jumped over entire assault lances flashing my red beams of "tiny" doom at them while they hited the hill behind me with ordinance several times my own weight.


The small-pulse is solid for sure, but what I'm getting at is if you specifically want to build a lynx sniper. The er-ppc build is not too bad when used appropriately. Now as for should you make a lynx a sniper? I don't think it would hurt that much in pug que and you're only taking 25tons off the front line to fill a direct fire support role rather than trying to snipe with an Assault.





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