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#1 Death Lanner

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 05:57 PM

i gotta ask why dont we have the black lanner clan jade falcon 55 ton medium mech yet we are over 1/3 the way thru 3052
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Black_Lanner

and this mech is a primary clan jade falcon mech that saw combat in the clan invasion

and this mech better get the 360 torso twist that is a mandatory addition to all black lanners its a stock feature that can not be removed

im our raged at the fact that the cauldrenborne AKA ebon jaguar does not have the 360 torso twist that all the varients of that mech had

but instead of fixing issues it seams we are being spammed with new content

id rather see the game structure as it is stabilized instead of new content

additionally what would you rather have as a clan player a viper or a Black Lanner

http://www.sarna.net...%28Dragonfly%29
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Black_Lanner

if PGI is going to stick to a progressive time line then IMO they should stick to the TROs as close as possible

and lastly but not least where the heck are my Laser Anti Missle Systems(LAMS) that are exclusive to clans i personally as a life long jade falcon player of the mechwarrior/battle tech universe and insulted by what PGI is doing to the clans

further more i have spent money on the game but, i vow i wont spend another cent until the major errors are fixed

pre register started in late 2011, its now 2016 PGI has made millions more then microsoft spent on development of mechwarrior 4 vengeance black knight and mercs + IS/Clan packs

but yet this game still has lots of problems that need to be addressed and IMO( the majority of it is the problem with what PGI has done with is with the balancing

#2 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:01 PM

View PostDeath Lanner, on 24 April 2016 - 05:57 PM, said:

i gotta ask why dont we have the black lanner clan jade falcon 55 ton medium mech yet we are over 1/3 the way thru 3052



Because the Black Lanner has way too little pod space for its tonnage. Way too little. As in 11 tons of pod space in a 55 ton mech little.

A better question is: Why don't we have the Huntsman? Or perhaps why not the Pouncer? Or the Vapor Eagle? All of those are timeline appropriate Clan Mediums that can actually throw a punch and compete with the others. You know, real, solid options, instead of yet more way over engined Clan mechs.

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Also, in MW4 the Ebon Jaguar did NOT have 360 degree torso twist. I know this, because the Ebon Jaguar was my specific mech of choice back in the day. L.A.M.S. was also only a prototype experimental item in this particular point in time, and generated heat every time it was used. No thanks!

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 24 April 2016 - 06:14 PM.


#3 Metus regem

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:09 PM

Let me guess, your introduction to the Black Lanner was from MW4+MekTek right?

In TT NO Mech had a 360 degree torso twist, not even the Urbanmech. So to expect tgat, let alone demand if, is just foolish. As for the Ebon Jaguar, be happy it has any torso twist, it lacked that feature in TT.

I'd be happy with L.A.M.S., but I understand that at 7 heat per-useage would shut down our mechs here, as it would be near constant firing in missile heavy games.

Given my choice between Black Lanner or Viper, I'd take the Huntsman, reasonable speed, tons of fire power for the weight and likely decent hit boxes.

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:11 PM

in b4 the DoA trash rage storm.

Edited by LastKhan, 24 April 2016 - 06:12 PM.


#5 El Bandito

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:16 PM

Vote for Vapor Eagle. Let's Vape!

#6 Lucian Nostra

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:23 PM

Wouldnt mind seeing the Lanner but yeah.. be a pretty subpar mech..

#7 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:30 PM

I am sorry to hear this,player is outraged, OUTRAGED I say!! (Or our raged as he puts it).

Further more, I applaud his efforts to this heinous, egregious errors corrected lest he be forced to boycott this game in righteous indignation. Because clearly, the lack of the Black Lanner and of its associated 360 torso twist (introduced by an originally incorrect video game interpretation) are the top two mistakes in terms of game design this game suffers from.

Or, OP could take some ******* ritalin and save us the 2 minutes of our lives we will never get back from this thread as an option.

#8 ScarecrowES

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:53 PM

Someone help me check if my troll radar is broken... I'm having a hard time telling if the OP is serious.

#9 MechWarrior5152251

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 06:59 PM

But it looks like a duck...

#10 Clanner Scum

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 07:07 PM

The black lanner is one medium im buying in full on. I want that mech so bad it hurts.

#11 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 07:10 PM

Black Lanner is low on podspace, but it would have more use than the Linebacker.

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 07:37 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 24 April 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

Black Lanner is low on podspace, but it would have more use than the Linebacker.


I see what you did there.

#13 Alan Davion

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 07:38 PM

View PostDeath Lanner, on 24 April 2016 - 05:57 PM, said:


im our raged at the fact that the cauldrenborne AKA ebon jaguar does not have the 360 torso twist that all the varients of that mech had



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I'm sorry... But what part of this Cauldron Born says that it has 360 degree torso twist?

Read: It doesn't.

The original incarnation of the Ebon Jaguar/Cauldron Born had literally no waist to speak of, and therefore had no torso twist to speak of.

0/10

The only reason the EBJ has a waist in this game is the same reason the Nova has a waist in this game.

They would be absolutely, unequivocally and utterly USELESS without waist joints to allow torso twisting.

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 07:44 PM

View PostAlan Davion, on 24 April 2016 - 07:38 PM, said:

The only reason the EBJ has a waist in this game is the same reason the Nova has a waist in this game.

They would be absolutely, unequivocally and utterly USELESS without waist joints to allow torso twisting.


B-b-b-b-but... but surely if a mech it outright terrible - like if you have a chassis that can't torso twist, or a Clan assault omni-mech with a locked standard engine - surely we can just pile on more and more quirks until it doesn't suck so much any more... right? Quirks fix everything!

;)

#15 Alan Davion

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 07:47 PM

View PostScarecrowES, on 24 April 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:


B-b-b-b-but... but surely if a mech it outright terrible - like if you have a chassis that can't torso twist, or a Clan assault omni-mech with a locked standard engine - surely we can just pile on more and more quirks until it doesn't suck so much any more... right? Quirks fix everything!

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You know, it'd be funny if it weren't 100% true.

#16 pbiggz

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 08:07 PM

Because it sucks.

View PostScarecrowES, on 24 April 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:


B-b-b-b-but... but surely if a mech it outright terrible - like if you have a chassis that can't torso twist, or a Clan assault omni-mech with a locked standard engine - surely we can just pile on more and more quirks until it doesn't suck so much any more... right? Quirks fix everything!

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clans dont get quirks, pgi says so

#17 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 08:11 PM

View PostScarecrowES, on 24 April 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:


B-b-b-b-but... but surely if a mech it outright terrible - like if you have a chassis that can't torso twist, or a Clan assault omni-mech with a locked standard engine - surely we can just pile on more and more quirks until it doesn't suck so much any more... right? Quirks fix everything!

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The Kingfisher isn't outright terrible but I see what you did there.

The Linebacker IS outright terrible.

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View Postpbiggz, on 24 April 2016 - 08:07 PM, said:

clans dont get quirks, pgi says so


LMAO

Take a look at the Gargoyle and the Summoner, and the Nova

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 24 April 2016 - 08:15 PM.


#18 Luca M Pryde

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 08:18 PM

The Black Lanner is one of the fastest mechs in the game and has masc. Yes please!

#19 Metus regem

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 09:04 PM

View PostLuca M Pryde, on 24 April 2016 - 08:18 PM, said:

The Black Lanner is one of the fastest mechs in the game and has masc. Yes please!


Fire Moth, Phantom, Fireball, Gunsmith, Hermes, Hussar, Icestorm and many others say "Hi!"

Each of those mechs I listed are faster than the Black Lanner before the Black Lanner uses MASC, some are faster that the Black Lanner using MASC.....

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 09:10 PM

View PostDeath Lanner, on 24 April 2016 - 05:57 PM, said:


and this mech better get the 360 torso twist that is a mandatory addition to all black lanners its a stock feature that can not be removed





LOL.."better get", "stock feature".

Dude, you need to not confuse Mektek MW4 mods with "stock", "canon" or anything.

In Btech, no mech, not even the Urbie had a 360º rotation.

Good god people, know your actual source material before making demands.





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