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[Karl Streiger]

DarthHias, on 13 May 2016 - 01:33 AM, said:

LCT-1E
This should work well enough against Mr. Turns slower than the Atlas

All in all - the Kodiak will be interesting prey for Lights.... maybe not the Spirit Bear but all the other Kodiaks have at least 2 energy weapons in each arm. With lower and hand activators the movement of those arms will allow some fast target acquiring and better field of fire

[DarthHias]

True, but still the Kodiak with an 400 rated engine will twist slower than an Atlas with a 350 due to quirks.

Edited by DarthHias, 13 May 2016 - 02:33 AM.

[Davegt27]

I don’t even know what the hard points will be
This is the first Mech pack I have bought

I expect to shed a lot of tears about how bad the Kodiak will suck

But like all my Mechs I will go through every weapon and every combination of weapons

Based on the other assaults in the game the Kodiak
Will probably end up with a bunch of small lasers and a UAC5

[Ivan Tsarevich]

KDK-1, I'm thinking a couple large pulse and a the rest ERMLs, with either a UAC10 or gauss in the ballistic. Not sure on the because I made need the extra tonnage for cooling, and the guass reload time bothers me.

KDK-2, no clue. Moar lasorz?

The KDK-3 has me salivating. I'm debating between quad UAC10, UAC10 and UAC5 mix, or dual UAC20. The quad 10 sounds like so much fun, but I am trying to figure out if I am willing to tone down the engine far enough to get the cooling and ammo I am comfortable with.

Spirit Bear begs for 4 ASRM6 and a big ballistic. My question is, does MASC have an assigned hard point like ECM? If so, I don't think you can do MASC and UAC20 with an XL. Which sucks, but hey, you can't have it all.

[Widowmaker1981]

Ivan Tsarevich, on 13 May 2016 - 05:43 AM, said:

Spirit Bear begs for 4 ASRM6 and a big ballistic. My question is, does MASC have an assigned hard point like ECM? If so, I don't think you can do MASC and UAC20 with an XL. Which sucks, but hey, you can't have it all.

The way it works for the loyalty wolverine, MASC can go anywhere it will fit - so yes, you can put it in one of the arms.

[Dawnstealer]

I'm hoping they all run a ferocious 9-TAG, 1 NARC BEASTBEARBUILD.

- IS loyalist

[cazidin]

So. How fearsome with the Quad Gauss Kodiak truly be? You'll still be left firing 2 at a time.

[pbiggz]

4 ultra 10s. accept no substitutes

[Ivan Tsarevich]

Widowmaker1981, on 13 May 2016 - 06:57 AM, said:

The way it works for the loyalty wolverine, MASC can go anywhere it will fit - so yes, you can put it in one of the arms.

YAAAAS!!!

[LordMelvin]

Snowbluff, on 12 May 2016 - 05:00 PM, said:

Beef will run it. "The Ultimate weapon!"

A weapon to surpass Metal Gear

[cazidin]

Technically, one could put Quad ER PPCs or LPL on this and play the Kodiak like a 15 tons heavier Warhawk with 2 extra DHS or a larger Targeting Computer. Thoughts?

[Nyte Kitsune]

Uh.. Build's? I honestly was planning on running most of them stock (Minus the ones with gauss, which I don't like, they'll be replaced with AC 20's). Other than that they all look pretty solid as-is.

[Widowmaker1981]

cazidin, on 13 May 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:

Technically, one could put Quad ER PPCs or LPL on this and play the Kodiak like a 15 tons heavier Warhawk with 2 extra DHS or a larger Targeting Computer. Thoughts?

Yeah, id thought about that - it might be how i set up the KDK-2.. looks like the arms fill up from the top, so better mounts than the Warhawk, better geometry, JJs, ES instead of FF, lower arm actuators, more agility and the potential to trade a bit of speed for a lot of tonnage (at the same speed the KDK actually has about the same podspace if it maxes armour and runs ES only), all that vs 15% velocity / 8% heat gen quirks on the warhawk..

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 13 May 2016 - 10:52 AM.

[WarHippy]

Just to be different. KDK-3 4xLBX10 and some lasers.

[Wintersdark]

DarthHias, on 13 May 2016 - 02:33 AM, said:

True, but still the Kodiak with an 400 rated engine will twist slower than an Atlas with a 350 due to quirks.

A kodiak 1 or 5 with a 400 rated engine will twist slower than an Atlas with a 300 due to quirks.

The 2, 3, 4, and SB all have twistyturn quirks though.

[Wintersdark]

1 - 2 LPL, 6 ERSL, UAC20, SRM's, 400XL
2 -
3 - Either: Quad UAC10, 4xERSL; or 2xUAC10 (high mounts) 2xLBX10 (cockpit mounts), 4xERSL. 350XL

Why 2 LBX's?

Spoiler

1) No ghost heat
2) I've found problems getting 4 UAC10's firing together to work consistently. It may be visual/audio only, but I've found them to be glitchy on my Direwolf
3) LBX10's fire with less heat; so that'll be an alpha of 10 heat instead of 12, and including doubleshots of 16 instead of 24 (though, counting doubles, only 60 damage instead of 80).
4) LBX10's look and sound awesome, and will ensure even with worst case scenario jamming still 20pt ballistic shots happening.

Why not UAC5's? 5's is better, on the face of it. More tonnage free, good heat, better range. But 10's are more ammo efficient (more damage/ton thanks to the 10-class buffs) and more importantly, LBX's look and sound awesome.

Spirit Bear - Quad ASRM6, UAC20, MASC, 2 ERSL, 400XL.
4 - 2 LPL, 2 ERML, 2 UAC10, (maybe a couple SRM or LRM racks) 375XL
5 - Sold.



Edit:

Maybe, just maybe, I'll run my KDK-3 with dual UAC10's(cockpit) and Dual Gauss (high), and a quartet of ERML's for spice.

Edited by Wintersdark, 14 May 2016 - 07:37 AM.

[Snowbluff]

LordMelvin, on 13 May 2016 - 09:13 AM, said:

A weapon to surpass Metal Gear

Sahalanthropos. D8

[Wintersdark]

So, I've been brutally mangling Li Song's data files, and hacked em up to the point where I can make any Kodiak loadout in the HGN-IIC (O) mech.

Here's my Spirit Bear:



Note that while armor/JJ/MASC/tonnage/etc all work, I simply added enough hardpoints to make any KDK loadout; this means there are too many hardpoints allowed, but I don't care about that. Also, I didn't edit maneuverability stats or add the kdk quirks; I'm just prototyping here and wanted to play.

Edit: Oops, left a JJ on; that's 2t for another 2 DHS.

KDK-3:



and my baby, the KDK4:

Edited by Wintersdark, 14 May 2016 - 01:54 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Oh, to do this? Install Li Song Mechlab, if you haven't already - the newest version. Start it, have it parse the game files. This will create a file called lsml_datacache.xml in your appdata folder (just enter %appdata% in an explorer address bar).

Replace the existing file with this one: https://dl.dropboxus...l_datacache.xml

then edit a HGN-IIC-O (gotta be the O!)

it'll let you make KDK builds (illegal ones, too - there's no fact-checking) but it'll cover all the possibilities. After launch, delete the file and LSML will parse from the (new) game files, fixing the HGN-IIC-O and adding the KDK's properly.

[Wintersdark]

KDK5 with ridiculous laser vomit:

27DHS, 10 MPL, LPL, XL400. lol