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#1 Willard Phule

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 11:03 AM

Who's brilliant idea was it to add requirements like "win" or "100 match score?"

Let me guess...either someone that doesn't play the game, ever, or someone that plays on the IS side exclusively.

Come over to the Clans and try it out a bit. See what it's like to get pugstomped 19/20 matches you drop in.

And don't even say it. Join a group....dude. Come see the groups we've got. Seriously.

Yet another poorly thought out event from the people that brought you "end game content with beginning game players and equipment."

#2 Vxheous

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 11:08 AM

I got 15 wins in 20 CW games played while as clans, dropping in 4-6 man groups....no excuses, carry harder

#3 2fast2stompy

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 11:11 AM

I'm a pug, and winning isn't the problem (certainly not getting a match score of 100), the problem is getting a match, since the factions we border generally tend to have more fronts than us and are thus spread out more.

Our fronts are always lacking on the IS side, with 1 or more of our attack/defend groups waiting for the other side to show up on each planet.

Edited by 2fast2stompy, 15 May 2016 - 11:16 AM.


#4 Zolaz

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 11:14 AM

I do admit, the game is hard if you cant hit things you are aiming at or if you cant maneuver your mech or if half your team wanders in one at a time against the enemy. All of these things become moot when you have played for a bit and have joined a team.

If you are wondering which teams to join, just go look at the leaderboards. Past performance is the surest indicator of future performance, just ask Russ and Paul.

#5 pwnface

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 11:17 AM

View PostWillard Phule, on 15 May 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

Who's brilliant idea was it to add requirements like "win" or "100 match score?"

Let me guess...either someone that doesn't play the game, ever, or someone that plays on the IS side exclusively.

Come over to the Clans and try it out a bit. See what it's like to get pugstomped 19/20 matches you drop in.

And don't even say it. Join a group....dude. Come see the groups we've got. Seriously.

Yet another poorly thought out event from the people that brought you "end game content with beginning game players and equipment."


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#6 Willard Phule

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 11:40 AM

Ok, look at the facts here.....

Last patch, they separated "groups" (loosely defined as "anyone that can figure out how to make a unit") from "solos." Wait times were up on the group side, but games were somewhat better. Don't know about the other side, don't really care...they obviously whined enough to get them to open up the flood gates and let them back in.

They did this right before they announced this event.

THAT is what I'm "whining" about, as you so neatly put it. Not my personal ability to finish yet another half-cooked, poorly organized and/or thought through event. I've blown off enough of those to not care about this one, either.

My entire point is that it's almost as if the Clans have been just an afterthought for quite some time now. And I'm not referring PGI's ability to balance worse than a drunk party girl on a rowboat, either. I'm talking about their complete inability to understand the very concept of matchmaking based on some kind of separator...be it skill, experience or equipment used. Whatever.

Ask them to poll the population based on their whole new "PSR" thing. See what the population of IS vs Clan is overall, then compare average PSR. See if I'm wrong. For one thing, most experienced groups went IS. Can't blame them, the seal hunting is good. Much money to be made. Secondly, there are no prerequisites to joining FW...no tutorial requirement, no cadet matches played, no owning your own mechs....nothing. Guess which side most new players go.

Personally, I'd much rather wait 30 minutes for a half-assed balanced match than wait 40 minutes total, after being "transferred" six times, for a ghost drop.

#7 Hanky Spam

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 12:16 PM

Whats the problem getting a match score of 100?

However winning 15 games rather more with clan wolf might be at the moment indeed a really difficult challenge, though I had - gladly - no problem with that coz I've won my games within 1,5 days because I could luckily drop some games where I had either experienced PUGS, or I dropped with some pilots from IX and EK, but I do admit that since a few days it's incredibly annoying to play FW and being in Clan Wolf again...

At the moment I think that things cant get any worse in Clan Wolf or any other Clan...perhaps except Clan Jade currently... Posted Image Posted Image

#8 DarklightCA

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 12:28 PM

Wait. You have to complete tasks to complete challenges? When did this start to be a thing?. I thought challenges were all about getting free stuff without effort. /end sarcasm.

Getting a match score of 100 is not hard. Winning a game is not that hard either but this is not a solo game and faction play is not a solo gamemode.

You can't dictate your games as a solo players like you can as a group. If you are struggling to win games for the event than get on your faction teamspeak, group up with players or units from your faction (don't even need to join that unit) and coordinate with them to win the game.

Though it looks like you maybe apart of one. Can your unit not beat solo pug teams?

Edited by DarklightCA, 15 May 2016 - 12:36 PM.


#9 BattleGnome

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 01:09 PM

I think the reason why Clan players in CW are fed up regardless of organized groups or pug on pug action is simply because of IS laser vomit. Right now, it is ridiculous- especially with IS LPLs- where you can in an IS mech pretty much do PPFLD on your target due to their low beam duations (and the ridiculous laser duration quirks added to that fact), and still do well in close combat due to IS mechs being able to run pretty cool even in spite of how (relatively) little DHS they can carry. Beam duration quirks shouldn't be on mechs with loads of energy hardpoints (Lolcust: okay. BK: Not okay).

Meanwhile, all Clans really have vs. their IS counterparts is range (no, damage doesn't count considering the ridiculous beam duration and hit registration). Otherwise, they pay for that range dearly with beam duration and lots of heat which isn't a big deal for poke wars, but all IS needs to do (and does most of the time now) is death ball, making it very hard to use the range advantage. I was going to mention weight, but since they run so hot, this is offset with the need to get even more DHS.

It is possible to get through the invasion event with your free mech as I have done it as clan, but it gets miserable after a while when you get stuck with clueless pugs (stop using clan lurms) and IS death ball. The matches I played where even as pug vs. pug we would get stomped was when the IS side death balled with BK/WHR/MAR which typically meant laser vomit (and some dakka). IS death balls were only ever truly stopped due to these reasons:

-They sucked
-We just happened to be all brawlers (no lurms. I sense a theme here...)
-We had a 4+ man that people actually listened to

Usually all 3 cases had to be in play. Otherwise, easy peasy stomp for IS laser death ball.

#10 Gruinhardt

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 02:34 PM

View PostVxheous Kerensky, on 15 May 2016 - 11:08 AM, said:

I got 15 wins in 20 CW games played while as clans, dropping in 4-6 man groups....no excuses, carry harder

I got 15 wins in 20 matches playing with SWOL.

#11 Kin3ticX

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 02:53 PM

you can get a 69% win loss rate in CW just trying hardly or hardly trying


if your not doing that then try changing things up starting with low hanging fruit

#12 justcallme A S H

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 03:00 PM

If you can't get 100 match score, you need to get better.

#13 Vxheous

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 03:11 PM

View PostGruinhardt, on 15 May 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:

I got 15 wins in 20 matches playing with SWOL.


Take heed wolf pugs to this man, find him, or EK if you want to win your share of games (might be too late now that it's Sunday)

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 15 May 2016 - 03:12 PM.


#14 Kin3ticX

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 03:15 PM

have you tried joining a group that isnt the one you are in now?

#15 Carl Vickers

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 06:16 PM

Ugh,

If you have ever played with Willard you know why he is not in a unit. I will admit he does actually have some skills in a mech but its his attitude that is the issue.

#16 Commander A9

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 07:52 PM

What the hell are you talking about? I cleared this entire event in 4-5 days when it was initially deployed. It's not impossible to score 100 match points; trust me.

Recommend piggy-backing off of a team to do the matches together; focus fire, call targets...come on...we've beaten our heads against walls for months trying to enlighten our fellow players on this matter.

I'm getting a little tired of repeating myself.

Edited by Commander A9, 15 May 2016 - 07:55 PM.


#17 Carl Vickers

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 07:56 PM

Please see my post above Commander. That explains a lot.

#18 Kin3ticX

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 08:42 PM

Clearly you have all never felt the wrath of the Falcons Claw

You dare refuse?

#19 Hal Greaves

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 07:43 AM

View PostKin3ticX, on 15 May 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Clearly you have all never felt the wrath of the Falcons Claw

You dare refuse?


does that mean we're going jade chickens next

#20 Depressing-Fire

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 08:31 AM

This post gave me diarrhea





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