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[Bishop Steiner]

The hand holders seem to be crying in force about KDK OP, so you know what that means...in about 2 weeks we will probably see them nerfed into obscurity. Yes it took months for the ACH, but it seems like they are going a bit faster of late. And popularity of chassis is no protection, just look at the Highlander which it is safe to say was the single most anticipated and begged for Mech...and has been on the back of a Milk Carton for the last 2 years.

So because the alternative of "Git Gud" (learn to twist and hold you fire control ) is not acceptable, the wise man foresees the coming calamity and plans accordingly.

For me? It's going to probably end up my KDK-4 Stink Bear
a pair of StinkFists for the #1/2 firegroups, and a doubleDakka 2xUAC10 for the 3rd.

Still good speed and mobility (unless they nerf it too) with decent enough heat control. Not near as straightforward as the KDK3s, or as fun and fast as the Spirit Bear, but I'm just being pragmatic. We've finally gotten to the point where Gyrok is right (took most of 2 years to get there, mind you): The Clans can't have nice things.

So, how do you plan to salvage your 20-75$ purchase in the coming BearNerf Apocalypse?

[Mcgral18]

My 3 won't be changing at all.

I enjoy having a Hunch 2C strapped to either shoulder (with hitbox to match)


I just find it hilarious it's also as agile as a Hunch.

[KaffeeKup]

Likely the triple LPL and 6x SML one, its extremely amusing and is pretty cool.

[Lyoto Machida]

Been driving the 1 and 2...hopefully I'll get to the 3 before they nerf it. Probably should grab the Spirit Bear myself.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 18 May 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

My 3 won't be changing at all.

I enjoy having a Hunch 2C strapped to either shoulder (with hitbox to match)


I just find it hilarious it's also as agile as a Hunch.

and when it's not as agile? And stripped quicker than a Hunch, then what?

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 May 2016 - 08:30 AM, said:

and when it's not as agile? And stripped quicker than a Hunch, then what?

I'll still be agile for a unquirked 100 tonner (worse than a WubShee, but only just) but with the whole 80 damage within a second thing going for me.


It has good mounts, it doesn't need to twist like a Med.

[Gas Guzzler]

The Spirit Bear does really not need a nerf...

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 18 May 2016 - 08:32 AM, said:

I'll still be agile for a unquirked 100 tonner (worse than a WubShee, but only just) but with the whole 80 damage within a second thing going for me.


It has good mounts, it doesn't need to twist like a Med.

Disagree. With it's CT soaking every shot, it needs that mobility to soak some of that damage elsewhere. Maybe they get the hitboxes tuned more it won't.

Gas Guzzler, on 18 May 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

The Spirit Bear does really not need a nerf...

None of them do. But they'll get them "because".

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 May 2016 - 08:24 AM, said:

The hand holders seem to be crying in force about KDK OP, so you know what that means...in about 2 weeks we will probably see them nerfed into obscurity. Yes it took months for the ACH, but it seems like they are going a bit faster of late. And popularity of chassis is no protection, just look at the Highlander which it is safe to say was the single most anticipated and begged for Mech...and has been on the back of a Milk Carton for the last 2 years.

So because the alternative of "Git Gud" (learn to twist and hold you fire control ) is not acceptable, the wise man foresees the coming calamity and plans accordingly.

For me? It's going to probably end up my KDK-4 Stink Bear
a pair of StinkFists for the #1/2 firegroups, and a doubleDakka 2xUAC10 for the 3rd.

Still good speed and mobility (unless they nerf it too) with decent enough heat control. Not near as straightforward as the KDK3s, or as fun and fast as the Spirit Bear, but I'm just being pragmatic. We've finally gotten to the point where Gyrok is right (took most of 2 years to get there, mind you): The Clans can't have nice things.

So, how do you plan to salvage your 20-75$ purchase in the coming BearNerf Apocalypse?

It's very simple really. I did not buy any precisely for this very reason. I will decide whether or not to buy after the perennial and very loud whiners have had their day and PGI's already weak knees have finally crumbled -- again.

Forward thinking has its advantages.

And just for emphasis:

Bishop Steiner, on 18 May 2016 - 08:24 AM, said:

The Clans can't have nice things.

It's those god***** decades-old ******* anti-Clan Crusaders. They have been relentless -- even in their geriatric condition. <smh>

Edited by Mystere, 18 May 2016 - 08:44 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

If the Kodiak's get nerfed...any of them...I'm not going to buy them with real money in protest!

Then again, if they stay the same or get buffed, I'm also not going to buy them with real money in protest.

Basically I'm not going to buy them for real money. :/

[Narcissistic Martyr]

The highlander isn't awful these days... it's just... JJ are so useless that you may as well bring an atlas.

Mystere, on 18 May 2016 - 08:37 AM, said:

It's those god***** decades-old ******* anti-Clan Crusaders. They have been relentless -- even in their geriatric condition. <smh>

Get off my LAN you whipper snapper

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 18 May 2016 - 08:53 AM.

[Tom Sawyer]

Hmmm Nightgrrrrrrr in da wings.

Need to sell more Nightgrrrrrrrsssss

NERF THOSE BEARS! Have you heard about the awesome Nightgrrrrrrrr quirks?

Wana buy a mechpack?

[Mystere]

Tom Sawyer, on 18 May 2016 - 09:00 AM, said:

Hmmm Nightgrrrrrrr in da wings.

Need to sell more Nightgrrrrrrrsssss

NERF THOSE BEARS! Have you heard about the awesome Nightgrrrrrrrr quirks?

Wana buy a mechpack?

Is that a prediction, or a statement of fact?

[TLBFestus]

Don't just be blaming the QQers you refer to.

PGI deserves some blame too, for showing a history of releasing powerful chassis for cash, and then eventually nerfing them about the time they come out for c-bills.

It's not like it hasn't happened before.

In another thread, Derek points out that it will typically take PGI several months, up to 3, to do something about a chassis.

Coincidentally, it's usually 3 months later that they go up for c-bills.

It's the MWO version of "which came first the chicken or the egg?"

Edited by TLBFestus, 18 May 2016 - 09:16 AM.

[Supersmacky]

Funny observation from playing last night for several hours: the fewer Kodiaks my team had, the more likely we were to win even when the other team had 5 to 7 Kodiaks. This pattern was repeated over and over. When I was on a team with 5 to 7 Kodiaks and the other team only had one or two, the other team would win. When my team had one or two Kodiaks and the other team had five to seven, my team would win. From what I have seen the Kodiak is not OP. We'll see what happens after things calm down, but I am not overly impressed by them at this point.

[1453 R]

Supersmacky, on 18 May 2016 - 09:10 AM, said:

Funny observation from playing last night for several hours: the fewer Kodiaks my team had, the more likely we were to win even when the other team had 5 to 7 Kodiaks. This pattern was repeated over and over. When I was on a team with 5 to 7 Kodiaks and the other team only had one or two, the other team would win. When my team had one or two Kodiaks and the other team had five to seven, my team would win. From what I have seen the Kodiak is not OP. We'll see what happens after things calm down, but I am not overly impressed by them at this point.

Nobody knows how to work the damn things yet. And also many pilots who don't normally run oversized unnecessarily huge hundred-ton megafatbros are trying out Kodiaks they bought because the Spirit Bear is as close as they'll ever get again to that fresh Victor release rush.

They'll get there. Then again, people will also figure out better ways to fight them, so maybe they won't get there.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I expected them to have no quirks, so all I will do is stop giggling as much when I drop in them.

Seriously, I had one of the best matches in years last night on a NGNG twitch-streamed drop on Crimson Straight. Oddly, the quirks on my KDK3 didn't play much of a role because I was just face-timing everyone and my enemies seemed okay with me simply killing them.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Prosperity Park, on 18 May 2016 - 09:19 AM, said:

I expected them to have no quirks, so all I will do is stop giggling as much when I drop in them.

Seriously, I had one of the best matches in years last night on a NGNG twitch-streamed drop on Crimson Straight. Oddly, the quirks on my KDK3 didn't play much of a role because I was just face-timing everyone and my enemies seemed okay with me simply killing them.

Yep they are pretty stoopid atm. We predicted it, PGI cashed in on it, and people will cry about it after the nerfs.

[Bilbo]

I haven't played any of the Kodiaks yet, so I'll just go with my old standby: Atlas D-DC.

[Dee Eight]

The best way to fight spirit bear is around buildings, and using the masc to zip around corners. Shoot and scoot, and repeat.

However...i saw more than a few pilots trying to use them to chase light mechs, not knowing the masc overload damages the leg structure.