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[Hatachi]

Now that the Clans have a 100 ton jumper, can we get this beauty. :3

[Alan Davion]

Are you speaking as an IS or Clan player? There's very little context to what you're asking.

[Metus regem]

Alan Davion, on 29 May 2016 - 12:45 PM, said:

Are you speaking as an IS or Clan player? There's very little context to what you're asking.

It's IS as he asked for the Marauder II and not IIC... on to of that the IIC is 85t not 100t like the Marauder II.

[Alan Davion]

Metus regem, on 29 May 2016 - 01:10 PM, said:

It's IS as he asked for the Marauder II and not IIC... on to of that the IIC is 85t not 100t like the Marauder II.

Given he had no Faction flag I figured I'd ask, plus it could very well have been a miss-spell.

[Hatachi]

Ah, my bad. I'm a Davion fanboy, but I play both Clan and IS mechs. I was speaking of the 3025 and forward IS Marauder 2 to clear things up. For some reason the second I in the roman numeral didn't capitalize. I just didn't catch it.

Edited by Hatachi, 29 May 2016 - 01:49 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

The Marauder II would have the MAD-4A, MAD-5A, MAD-5B, and MAD-5C variants available.

The 5A is the "standard" model, and the 4A is the "no LosTech"/"Succession Wars" variant.
The 5A, 5B, and 5C all have the same minimum hardpoint layout (which is identical to that of the MAD-3R: x2 energy in each arm, plus x1 ballistic in the RT), while the 4A is an energy boat (minimum hardpoints: x2 energy in each arm, plus x1 energy in the RT).

The Hero 'Mech could be the personal 'Mech of Susan Barber, the commanding officer of Barber's Marauder IIs, a mercenary unit made up entirely of Marauder II & Marauder pilots.

[Alan Davion]

Strum Wealh, on 29 May 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

The Marauder II would have the MAD-4A, MAD-5A, MAD-5B, and MAD-5C variants available.

The 5A is the "standard" model, and the 4A is the "no LosTech"/"Succession Wars" variant.
The 5A, 5B, and 5C all have the same minimum hardpoint layout (which is identical to that of the MAD-3R: x2 energy in each arm, plus x1 ballistic in the RT), while the 4A is an energy boat (minimum hardpoints: x2 energy in each arm, plus x1 energy in the RT).

The Hero 'Mech could be the personal 'Mech of Susan Barber, the commanding officer of Barber's Marauder IIs, a mercenary unit made up entirely of Marauder II & Marauder pilots.

Bujeesus, only MADs and MAD IIs? That must be an expensive unit to hire, probably because of their need to keep everything in working order cause those repair bills must be damned high.

[El Bandito]

Alan Davion, on 29 May 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

Bujeesus, only MADs and MAD IIs? That must be an expensive unit to hire, probably because of their need to keep everything in working order cause those repair bills must be damned high.

Those meta chasers!

Funny how they have repeatedly defeated the Clan mechs, yet fell victim to mass Elemental assault. Where is our Elemental star consumable?

[Hatachi]

@Strum Wealh

That's where my mind was going for the Hero.

I know only two variants have substantially different loadouts, but hardpoint expansion differences could mix things up a bit. Off the top of my head, I could definitely see the 5A given an extra energy slot or two and the 5B getting an extra Ballistic slot.

The standard marauder was in a similar spot. The 3R and 5M have about the same layout hardpoint wise. The 5D is the only one that really mixes things up with the missiles.

I'm not going on a crusade for it or anything. I will admit I want to see flyingdebris art for it largely, and the energy points/jump jets mix it up enough from being another King Crab.

*EDIT*

Elemental/ Inner Sphere Standard Battle Armor Consumable would be awesome if they could get it balanced. It would also give an excuse for B Pods to exist.

Edited by Hatachi, 29 May 2016 - 02:09 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

El Bandito, on 29 May 2016 - 02:04 PM, said:

Funny how they have repeatedly defeated the Clan mechs, yet fell victim to mass Elemental assault.

To be fair, "an entire Cluster composed of Elementals" represents anywhere between 150 and 375 individual Elementals.

I suspect that any merc unit that had 300+ Elementals combat-dropped on them would very likely have suffered the same fate.

[El Bandito]

Strum Wealh, on 29 May 2016 - 02:48 PM, said:

To be fair, "an entire Cluster composed of Elementals" represents anywhere between 150 and 375 individual Elementals.

I suspect that any merc unit that had 300+ Elementals combat-dropped on them would very likely have suffered the same fate.

Not if they had Firestarters!

[Xetelian]

Quote

Marauder II C The Marauder II C is a variant specially built for Wolf's Dragoons using Clan technology. The 'Mech is powered by a 400 rated XL Engine, which gives it a maximum speed of 64.8 km/h, matching the original Marauder. Additionally, the 'Mech is armed with two ER PPCs, two ER Medium Lasers, and an LB-X Autocannon/10. Finally, the Marauder II C has excellent mobility provided by its jump jets with a jumping distance of one hundred and twenty meters. BV (1.0) = 2,991, BV (2.0) = 2,916^[16]

Excellent

I'd buy it

[dario03]

So if a Marauder II had ever got a IIC version what would it have been called?

II IIC
IIIIC
2+2C
2x2C
4C
xC
#C
IIxII=C
2B or not IIC

???

[Alan Davion]

There is no straight Clan/IIC version of the Marauder II. The MAD II wasn't built until 3012, a couple hundred years after Kerensky and the SLDF left in the Exodus fleet.

EDIT: Well, technically there is no Clan Marauder II, but Wolf's Dragoon's used MAD IIs that used Clan tech, known only as the Marauder II C.

Edited by Alan Davion, 29 May 2016 - 04:42 PM.

[dario03]

Alan Davion, on 29 May 2016 - 04:36 PM, said:

There is no straight Clan/IIC version of the Marauder II. The MAD II wasn't built until 3012, a couple hundred years after Kerensky and the SLDF left in the Exodus fleet.

EDIT: Well, technically there is no Clan Marauder II, but Wolf's Dragoon's used MAD IIs that used Clan tech, known only as the Marauder II C.

Yeah I know, thats why I said "if".

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Before we get the Marauder II, how about the Devastator, Annihilator, Berserker, Imp, etc.?

[Alan Davion]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 29 May 2016 - 05:58 PM, said:

Before we get the Marauder II, how about the Devastator, Annihilator, Berserker, Imp, etc.?

The Marauder II is actually probably way easier for PGI to do. Take the normal Marauder we have now, increases its size by the required 30-ish-% to bring it up to 100 tons, add a couple wings to the vents on the side torsos, adjust the hitboxes and animations accordingly and boom, you're done.

Far less work involved than having to concept out a few different styles, each of which could probably take a full day or so to do to find the right look for a mech, before handing it off to the mech builders themselves who then take weeks to make it bit by bit.

I would say the Annihilator and Imp would probably take less time for the artists to do than the Berserker or Devastator would, but that's because the first 2 mechs have very similar looking overall shapes, where as the second 2 have very different shapes.

[Hatachi]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 29 May 2016 - 05:58 PM, said:

Before we get the Marauder II, how about the Devastator, Annihilator, Berserker, Imp, etc.?

I'm a fan of a lot of these mechs, especially the annihilator. The devastator also has one heck of a loadout. However, I like the 100 ton jump jets on the Marauder II. That would give it a unique slot in the mech roster.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Drinks

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

Alan Davion, on 29 May 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

The Marauder II is actually probably way easier for PGI to do. Take the normal Marauder we have now, increases its size by the required 30-ish-% to bring it up to 100 tons, add a couple wings to the vents on the side torsos, adjust the hitboxes and animations accordingly and boom, you're done.

Far less work involved than having to concept out a few different styles, each of which could probably take a full day or so to do to find the right look for a mech, before handing it off to the mech builders themselves who then take weeks to make it bit by bit.

I would say the Annihilator and Imp would probably take less time for the artists to do than the Berserker or Devastator would, but that's because the first 2 mechs have very similar looking overall shapes, where as the second 2 have very different shapes.

Artwork is going to take the same amount of time, no matter what. You can't just scale it up since then all the weapon mounts and cockpit are going to be out of proportion. Look at the Origins mechs and you'll see they're not just recycled models but entirely new designs that are only referential to the originals. The Marauder II would be a lot more complex than that, even.