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[GreenHell]

For AMD, just wait for October to roll around. They pushed up the release date for the "Vega-10" cards (name?) and I for one look forward to seeing what HBM2.0 can do. My work-bud is also looking forward to the release of the ZEN CPU's coming out this X-Mas. Might be building him a rig if he likes what he sees.

[Chimera_]

GreenHell, on 01 June 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

For AMD, just wait for October to roll around. They pushed up the release date for the "Vega-10" cards (name?) and I for one look forward to seeing what HBM2.0 can do. My work-bud is also looking forward to the release of the ZEN CPU's coming out this X-Mas. Might be building him a rig if he likes what he sees.

Yeah, AMD has labelled Vega as "Ultra-enthusiast" which going by their prior branding would imply something to directly compete with Nvidia's 1080 and/or next flagship. Looks like we're getting everything <$300 with this round, then Vega should be their next Fury and whatnot. HBM could give AMD a significant advantage if they're able to give the chips themselves enough horsepower, unlike the Fury X which surpassed 980 Ti only at high resolutions.

Personally I'm really rooting for AMD all around; More competition for both Intel and Nvidia leads to faster improvements and cheaper prices for everyone. If the 480 is anything to go by it looks like AMD is really going in strong with these new cards.

Edited by Chimera11, 01 June 2016 - 03:41 PM.

[GreenHell]

I found it odd of AMD to bring back the name of a 20 year old card series for their latest batch. I guess since they're so old nobody (but me) would notice... Oh well

[Chimera_]

GreenHell, on 01 June 2016 - 03:52 PM, said:

I found it odd of AMD to bring back the name of a 20 year old card series for their latest batch. I guess since they're so old nobody (but me) would notice... Oh well

Well, then we have the GTX 1080.

"Hey, my friend recommended I buy a 1080. Have any?"

"Sure, what brand?"

"I heard Asus is good"

"Here's your new monitor, enjoy"

Edited by Chimera11, 01 June 2016 - 03:58 PM.

[Impyrium]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 30 May 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

Even still, you should have noticed a difference going from 560Ti to 970. Hell, I noticed a difference going from the 570 to 770 back in 2013.

Honestly, not really. Though that was probably largely because the 560Ti was pretty capable of running MWO at 1080p max settings pretty well. I've since upgraded to a 1440p display, so I probably would have seen a bigger change if I had that before.

[Randall Flagg]

No, but I got 3x TitanX .

[Revis Volek]

sKiNLeSs, on 01 June 2016 - 09:14 PM, said:

No, but I got 3x TitanX .

1070 outperform titans by 9% and cost 55% less...and thats not even the top end card. 1080 blows em out of the water at stock speed i should say.

Titans are overpriced pcs of junk anymore honestly. I wouldnt dare over pay for them with the new cards out now.

[MrGoat]

sKiNLeSs, on 01 June 2016 - 09:14 PM, said:

No, but I got 3x TitanX .

Wow what a waste of cash. SLI barely even works with 2 cards in MWO.

[Afuldan McKronik]

3-way Titans are probably for a workstation that is at home. Sweet sweet rendering power.

[TexAce]

I'm waiting for the Hybrid by EVGA. Will probably get two of those.

[YourSaviorLegion]

I will most likely buy a non-reference MSI or Gigabyte GTX 1070

sKiNLeSs, on 01 June 2016 - 09:14 PM, said:

No, but I got 3x TitanX .

This better be sarcasm...

MrGoat, on 06 June 2016 - 02:58 AM, said:

Wow what a waste of cash. SLI barely even works with 2 cards in MWO.

SLI is a pain sometimes, it much easier to have one good GPU

Also there was this sexy MSI/Corsair 1080 at Computex that has a radiator attached so you mount that somewhere on your case for better heat management

[Illuzian Pryde]

I've just upgraded to a 1080 from 2x SLI 780s and have seen performance increases across the board. I've had a 1440p monitor for a while now and with my old 1080p monitor I could run on max settings, with the 1440p monitor I had to reduce settings a reasonable amount. Now it's absolutely no problem to crank the settings; obviously the big advantage for me here is video memory.

Another game which is also heavily CPU bound but still heavily GPU dependant is Black Desert Online and I've gone from running it on medium-high to extremely high with high end mode and am getting consistently high FPS. Total War: Warhammer had me reducing textures and settings and again, no problem now.

TL;DR if you're not coming from a few generations ago and don't have too much video memory and want to run at 1440p or above, or pretty much just want to run everything on max get a 1080. I can't compare it to anything else because 780s is all I have as a frame of reference so you'll need to check out independent reviews.

If you're running an AMD CPU though you should spend your money changing to Intel as AMD just can't cut the mustard, maybe look at a decent K series CPU. I'm still on a 3770k OCed at 4.5GHz and have zero problems with games. I can't speak for the lesser 3 series CPUs though. Obviously the low end CPUs of any generation are going to vary in what you can push out of them.

Edited by Illuzian Pryde, 08 June 2016 - 03:07 AM.

[YourSaviorLegion]

Roadkill, on 31 May 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

Eh, I dunno. I'm also using a GTX 770 and I've yet to play anything it can't handle on max settings.

Then again, I don't play that many computer games, so it's probably my lack of gaming variety that's helping keep my GTX 770 relevant. After all, I upgraded to the 770 from a 280. :-)

But you most likely use 1080p, I have the PNY GTX 770 4gb and have to tweak some game options because MWO has less than favorable FPS at 2560x1440

[4ries]

I am still playing MWO on a GTX 660ti... This card is around 4-5 years old at this time? And I can run Doom 2016 on this card; just had to update my drivers. But I am running Doom on only High settings...

In MWO I have 60-ish fps. I dunno about Doom; Doom 2016 has a fps counter in the settings. Might turn that on and see how well it actually runs on my machine.

PC:
Core i5 3570 3.4Ghz
8 Gb ram
GTX 660ti
SSD
Asus P8Z77 motherboard (Cpuz mentions that my bios version is from 2-14-2012... )

Me thinks i need to upgrade some stuff... Like a new graphics card (I am thinking a gtx 970) and another 8 gigs of ram at the very least.

But a gtx 1080? No thank you very much. Its too much money for the performance it gives. For that €1000 or 1000 dollars I can put together an almost complete computer...

[Darth Hotz]

Old and gold 875K @ 3,9Ghz + MSI GTX 970 and fps 40-130 depending on the map and action. Works for me, so I will pass another CPU and GPU generation. I plan a new rig for late 2017 and hope that AMD will be competitve again so Intel and NVDIA can not continue with the high price concept they have going.

[WarHippy]

4ries, on 08 June 2016 - 04:07 AM, said:

I am still playing MWO on a GTX 660ti... This card is around 4-5 years old at this time? And I can run Doom 2016 on this card; just had to update my drivers. But I am running Doom on only High settings...

In MWO I have 60-ish fps. I dunno about Doom; Doom 2016 has a fps counter in the settings. Might turn that on and see how well it actually runs on my machine.

Doom seems to run well on pretty much every gaming machine out there and still look pretty damn good. Honestly, if PGI is still considering an engine upgrade I hope they at least consider ID's new engine because it seems pretty damn good so far from I have been able to see.

[Hydrocarbon]

Dingo Red, on 29 May 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

After I upgraded from my older 560Ti to my current 970, I saw very little if any gain in performance gain in MWO... so colour me skeptical we'll see much improvement with even the 1080. With that said, I'll most certainly consider a custom 1080 later down the road for other games, since the thing seems like a monster for 1440p.

My experience with a 7950 to a 970 was different. My CPU was in the 95% usage range with GPU in the 70-80%. With the 970 my min FPS increased drastically, then CPU & GPU were both in the 60-75% range & CPU is nearly 10c cooler. CPU is a i5 3570k at 3.9ghz, res is 1080p. Maybe that just indicates MWO indeed is coded less horribly for nvidia...

As far as the 1080 goes, way overpriced IMO. I've been buying used GFX cards since my 4850 and I never had FPS issues til my first MWO smoke plume.

[Roadkill]

YourSaviorLegion, on 08 June 2016 - 04:00 AM, said:

But you most likely use 1080p, I have the PNY GTX 770 4gb and have to tweak some game options because MWO has less than favorable FPS at 2560x1440

1920 x 1200. So yeah, lower res than what you're running.

I'd love to upgrade to something bigger, but it seems like most monitors are going wider these days without getting significantly more vertical resolution. I do a lot of text/spreadsheet work and so need to be able to display full pages without having to scroll them, so 1200 px vert is basically a minimum for me.

Now if I can just find a 21:9 monitor with sufficient vertical res I'll be able to upgrade from my 11-yr old Dell 2405FPW...

[Mystere]

Roadkill, on 08 June 2016 - 10:25 AM, said:

1920 x 1200. So yeah, lower res than what you're running.

I'd love to upgrade to something bigger, but it seems like most monitors are going wider these days without getting significantly more vertical resolution. I do a lot of text/spreadsheet work and so need to be able to display full pages without having to scroll them, so 1200 px vert is basically a minimum for me.

Now if I can just find a 21:9 monitor with sufficient vertical res I'll be able to upgrade from my 11-yr old Dell 2405FPW...

Here you go.