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[Malleus011]

The right arm medium laser really should be mounted on the right vambrace, just like the left arm medium laser. This fits canon and original concept art for the Phoenix Hawk.

Is it worth trying to get this fixed? The meta-warriors will likely prefer having the highest laser mount, even though it's in the wrong place.

[Ronin13m]

Said it in multiple threads now. Yes I would like it fixed.

[Durant Carlyle]

I think only the main right arm weapon should be a pistol. All others should be vambrace mounted. I do NOT like the picture I saw of the Hawk with two pistols.

[Bongo TauKat]

I think the double barrel pew-pew gun is sexy as hell.

[Ronin13m]

I think the double barel pistol should only come out when a phawk can mount more then 2 energy hard points on the arm. When only two are present or both large energy then the dual pistol can be used. I also ecpect that large balistics may find there way into the pistol from a picture shown earlier.

[Alistair Winter]

Keep in mind that some variants have 3 energy hardpoints in one arm. The vambrace will probably be used for the third energy weapon. It would be dumb if they used the vambrace for the left arm, but mounted it below the fist on the right arm.

[Jackal Noble]

I think it looks great as is. Nick pick no tip clip pin limp **** sick trick

Edited by JackalBeast, 14 June 2016 - 02:08 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Malleus011, on 14 June 2016 - 01:22 PM, said:

The right arm medium laser really should be mounted on the right vambrace, just like the left arm medium laser. This fits canon and original concept art for the Phoenix Hawk.

Is it worth trying to get this fixed? The meta-warriors will likely prefer having the highest laser mount, even though it's in the wrong place.

I'd prefer it to be in the vambrace, with only 2/3 mount lasers going to the pistol, but #1 being the vambrace. It's probably too late to change, but I'd support it...

JackalBeast, on 14 June 2016 - 02:07 PM, said:

I think it looks great as is. Nick pick no tip clip pin limp **** sick trick

errr....... ok. (looks being subjective... but there is something oddly mesmerizing about your second line...)

[Aetes Nakatomi]

I personally love the hell out of the double pistols, not for meta but for pure sexiness

[Alex Morgaine]

Damn, i Was hoping it'd put the Ml(stock) in a side mount as first E Hardpoint on the Right arm instead of... Lesigh...

[Malleus011]

Alistair Winter, on 14 June 2016 - 02:06 PM, said:

Keep in mind that some variants have 3 energy hardpoints in one arm. The vambrace will probably be used for the third energy weapon. It would be dumb if they used the vambrace for the left arm, but mounted it below the fist on the right arm.

Using the vambrace for the first weapon loaded would make more logical sense - that way variants with multiple left arm E hardpoints wouldn't spawn the 'pistol' until a second energy weapon was loaded, then the 'double barrel' only when the third was mounted.

[MischiefSC]

PHX come packing a gat. He's supposed to have it. Crusader is guns in the vambrace.

Phoenix Hawk is totally NOT a VF1 Valkyrie Super Veritech with GU-11 Gun Pod. At all, because **** Harmony Gold in their ****ing **** hole.

[Bishop Steiner]

MischiefSC, on 14 June 2016 - 06:32 PM, said:

PHX come packing a gat. He's supposed to have it. Crusader is guns in the vambrace.

Phoenix Hawk is totally NOT a VF1 Valkyrie Super Veritech with GU-11 Gun Pod. At all, because **** Harmony Gold in their ****ing **** hole.

supposed to have both..where you think those medium lasers and MGs are in the PXH?

[MischiefSC]

I think the lasers are mounted in the antenna next to the cockpit. I remember one episode where Rick, Max and Ben were rescuing Lisa Hayes from the Zentradi on Breetais Flagship and they had to use them to cut through the bulkhead to get in.
They failed and were captured because Breetai bare knuckles down their mechs and rips Ricks mech apart like tissue paper.

Cuz Breetai is a cold killin' hard fightin' pimp.

Oh, wait. Totally not the same because the PHX is not actually from Macross.

Dunno. Figured the gun pod was the laser mounts and the MGs were the arm mounts.

Edited by MischiefSC, 14 June 2016 - 06:47 PM.

[Malleus011]

MischiefSC, on 14 June 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:

Dunno. Figured the gun pod was the laser mounts and the MGs were the arm mounts.

Nope, those two barrels in the left arm vambrace are the ML and MG. Right arm has the same setup, with the big can being the LL.

If they want their Phoenix Hawk to follow the same configuration, then the ML and MG need to populate the vambrace, and the 2nd E weapon (on either arm) should produce the pistol. The I suppose the 3rd makes a dual pistol.

[Ronin13m]

Malleus011, on 15 June 2016 - 04:27 AM, said:

Nope, those two barrels in the left arm vambrace are the ML and MG. Right arm has the same setup, with the big can being the LL.

If they want their Phoenix Hawk to follow the same configuration, then the ML and MG need to populate the vambrace, and the 2nd E weapon (on either arm) should produce the pistol. The I suppose the 3rd makes a dual pistol.

What you said here is what i expected to see. Only the two mechs that have 3 energy hard points should produce the dual pistol. Any with 2 energy should produce one gun and the other should be in the vambrace.

[Intrepid]

PGI cannot even get the lore correct; what makes you expect they would properly place the weapons?

[MeiSooHaityu]

Awe! It's a Double Barrel! OMG!!! Double Barrel All The Way Across the Arms!

OK, in all seriousness, I'm fine with it. Maybe a single barrel setup only would have looked a bit better, but I still think it looks good.

Besides, it is nice to have more weapons sit a bit higher. Meta or not, I'm just frustrated with shooting hills instead of mechs .

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 15 June 2016 - 05:06 AM.

[Ronin13m]

To be honnest I would have no issue with the double barrel if the vambrace would not stop short and continue to the end of the arm. As it is it looks like the location for the energy hard point but the model is not filled all the way out.

Edited by Ronin13m, 15 June 2016 - 09:18 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Agreed.
First energy hardpoint to be filled should be the wrist/vambrace whatever you want to call it.
2nd and 3rd hardpoints should fill the pistol.

It just makes so much more sense (which sadly isn't PGI's strong suit)