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[Burke IV]

The pakhet is the first omni hero isnt it? So how are the hero omni pods going to be handled, im assuming they will be permanently unbuyable? Also i think these new mechs should at least be stood next to another mech for scale so players can have some idea of what they are buying. I dont have any heros, excluding phonenix mechs, and it would be nice to pre order the huntsman but after peoples reaction to the archer i worry that the thing might be a lemon when i get it.

Edit: Huntsman P made up mech?

Edited by Burke IV, 23 June 2016 - 04:44 AM.

[ScarecrowES]

The Medusa is the first hero omni... coming with the viper next month.

Knowing how the mech and pod unlocks work for existing special access mechs, yes... it's likely you will only ever have access to one full set of hero omnipods that you can transfer amongst any mech of the same chassis. But you'll never be able to buy more of the same omnipods, even for the hero mech itself.

The P is a made-up variant, yes.

And like with any pre-order, you're rolling the dice, betting on whether or not a product will meet your expectations on release. Your reward here is early access.

[Ace Selin]

Burke IV, on 23 June 2016 - 04:42 AM, said:

The pakhet is the first omni hero isnt it? So how are the hero omni pods going to be handled, im assuming they will be permanently unbuyable? Also i think these new mechs should at least be stood next to another mech for scale so players can have some idea of what they are buying. I dont have any heros, excluding phonenix mechs, and it would be nice to pre order the huntsman but after peoples reaction to the archer i worry that the thing might be a lemon when i get it.

Edit: Huntsman P made up mech?

The Huntsman being an omni, can at least switch out pods to boat missiles, dakka and lasers to allow it to play how you want

[Wintersdark]

Burke IV, on 23 June 2016 - 04:42 AM, said:

The pakhet is the first omni hero isnt it? So how are the hero omni pods going to be handled, im assuming they will be permanently unbuyable? Also i think these new mechs should at least be stood next to another mech for scale so players can have some idea of what they are buying. I dont have any heros, excluding phonenix mechs, and it would be nice to pre order the huntsman but after peoples reaction to the archer i worry that the thing might be a lemon when i get it.

Edit: Huntsman P made up mech?

What Scarecrow said. As the Huntsman has a fairly humanoid form, it's going to be fairly tall. As it's thinner than the HBK, it'll be a solid bit taller. But, as many have said, height isn't really a problem.

But with regards to omnipods, yeah, you'll only be able to get more by buying more hero mechs.

Cbill bonus is tied to the CT totally.

[MauttyKoray]

Burke IV, on 23 June 2016 - 04:42 AM, said:

The pakhet is the first omni hero isnt it? So how are the hero omni pods going to be handled, im assuming they will be permanently unbuyable? Also i think these new mechs should at least be stood next to another mech for scale so players can have some idea of what they are buying. I dont have any heros, excluding phonenix mechs, and it would be nice to pre order the huntsman but after peoples reaction to the archer i worry that the thing might be a lemon when i get it.

Edit: Huntsman P made up mech?

Its stated in both the Viper and Huntsman FAQs. Buying the hero provides you with one set of pods, they cannot be purchased separately, and getting more pods would require you to purchase another Hero. However you can swap the pods freely once you have them.

[Belacose]

Really looking forward to the Hunstman as its Omni Pods allow so many different cool builds. Building my first one with 8XSSRM4s because I'm cheap like that with no skill...

Edited by Belacose, 23 June 2016 - 05:49 AM.

[Wintersdark]

Ace Selin, on 23 June 2016 - 05:41 AM, said:

The Huntsman being an omni, can at least switch out pods to boat missiles, dakka and lasers to allow it to play how you want

This is about the best part of Omnimechs: they're way more "meta proof". A shift in the meta can usually be met with a shift in omnipods instead of having a formerly great variant suddenly suck.

[Snowbluff]

Wintersdark, on 23 June 2016 - 05:46 AM, said:

This is about the best part of Omnimechs: they're way more "meta proof". A shift in the meta can usually be met with a shift in omnipods instead of having a formerly great variant suddenly suck.

This. Also, if you're low on moneys and can only purchase (and upgrade) one mech the omnimechs will let you play a lot more builds.

[Belacose]

Love the camouflage pattern on the special variant and will make that my center torso just for it add the 30% C-bill bonus. Probably change the colors to mostly black and white though. Wish it were already October!

[Burke IV]

I look at it and i worry that the weapons that according to sarna are mounted in the shoulder/arms have become side torso mounted. If its tall those side torsos are going to draw fire and they seem to still be there even with no weapon mounted Wouldnt mind if they had LRM20s in em, they will be the same size if they do wont they? Ill probably buy it, but damn PGI its not an archer.

Edit: it is slightly lacking in speed aswell. I really hope its not any taller than HBIIC at most

Edited by Burke IV, 23 June 2016 - 06:59 AM.

[Belacose]

Burke IV, on 23 June 2016 - 06:51 AM, said:

Edit: it is slightly lacking in speed aswell. I really hope its not any taller than HBIIC at most

Suspect your hopes will be dashed on it being as short as the hunch IIC which is also my favorite mech until Huntsman come out.

What's the lore say concerning such? I'll be giddy if it's not taller.

Edited by Belacose, 23 June 2016 - 07:15 AM.

[Wintersdark]

Burke IV, on 23 June 2016 - 06:51 AM, said:

I look at it and i worry that the weapons that according to sarna are mounted in the shoulder/arms have become side torso mounted. If its tall those side torsos are going to draw fire and they seem to still be there even with no weapon mounted Wouldnt mind if they had LRM20s in em, they will be the same size if they do wont they? Ill probably buy it, but damn PGI its not an archer.

Edit: it is slightly lacking in speed aswell. I really hope its not any taller than HBIIC at most

It will be taller than the HBK. Will be, there's no debate. For it to be the same height, or shorter, it'd need to be as chunky, and it's not going to be.

Volumetric scaling. Knowing what the Huntsman looks like, at least vaguely, shows its much less blocky than a hunchback. Thus, it pretty much has to be taller, as that volume has to go somewhere.

[Coralld]

My only real concern is hit boxes given the way they have shown it. Those large sections on it's shoulders should be part of the arms and not ST's.

Size will not bother me to much as it is a 50t mech, even if made taller than the HBKs, being tell is not that much of an issue as it's width that gets you killed.

If I were to guess it's size, well, it will be taller than a Hnchy but will be a bit shorter than a Cent.

Edited by Coralld, 23 June 2016 - 07:32 AM.

[Felbombling]

The variety of Omni-Pods will be a huge benefit to this chassis, as well as high shoulder placements for the weapons. This little thing could turn out fantastic with the jump ability it has. As to the height, my first impression is that it will be fairly thick front to back, so it may not be as tall as some are expecting.

[Pariah Devalis]

Wintersdark, on 23 June 2016 - 07:17 AM, said:

It will be taller than the HBK. Will be, there's no debate. For it to be the same height, or shorter, it'd need to be as chunky, and it's not going to be.

Volumetric scaling. Knowing what the Huntsman looks like, at least vaguely, shows its much less blocky than a hunchback. Thus, it pretty much has to be taller, as that volume has to go somewhere.

Coralld, on 23 June 2016 - 07:29 AM, said:

My only real concern is hit boxes given the way they have shown it. Those large sections on it's shoulders should be part of the arms and not ST's.

Size will not bother me to much as it is a 50t mech, even if made taller than the HBKs, being tell is not that much of an issue as it's width that gets you killed.

If I were to guess it's size, well, it will be taller than a Hnchy but will be a bit shorter than a Cent.

I am actually expecting it to be about as tall as the Cent, personally. Side on, the thing is about as thin, but the arms are less bulky than the centurion.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

MauttyKoray, on 23 June 2016 - 05:45 AM, said:

Its stated in both the Viper and Huntsman FAQs. Buying the hero provides you with one set of pods, they cannot be purchased separately, and getting more pods would require you to purchase another Hero. However you can swap the pods freely once you have them.

PGI should really just give owners like 10 of them and give them a cbill value of 0.

[Belacose]

Actually I may opt for the Hero variant center torso for the 8XSSRM4 build as it's more likely to have the possibility of perks for the STREAKs. Comes stock with SSRM4 in both side torsos too. Just swap out the arms for those on the P model.

[Pariah Devalis]

Belacose, on 23 June 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

...possibility of perks for the STREAKs. ...

Every time a proud Clan mech gets given streak SRMs, Kerensky rolls over in his grave. A-SRM are just so much better. You can aim them. They don't weigh as much (well, the SSRM6 vs ASRM6, anyways). You can cluster them onto a single component as opposed to sandblasting people. They have a faster rate of fire. They are actually worth using against anything heavier than 35 tons....

Only get extra range by going to Streaks. And the whole "not need to aim because derp" thing going for it. :\

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 23 June 2016 - 09:53 AM.

[Belacose]

Pariah Devalis, on 23 June 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

Every time a proud Clan mech gets given streak SRMs, Kerensky rolls over in his grave. A-SRM are just so much better. You can aim them. They don't weigh as much (well, the SSRM6 vs ASRM6, anyways). You can cluster them onto a single component as opposed to sandblasting people. They have a faster rate of fire. They are actually worth using against anything heavier than 35 tons....

Only get extra range by going to Streaks. And the whole "not need to aim because derp" thing going for it. :\

Yes, you're absolutely correct but I just want to be able to kill locusts and cheetahs while hitting the bong.

I'll make both versions though! One on the hero chasis and the SRM one on the P variant for sober play.

Edited by Belacose, 23 June 2016 - 09:57 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Belacose, on 23 June 2016 - 09:55 AM, said:

Yes, you're absolutely correct but I just want to be able to kill locusts and cheetahs while hitting the bong.

Well, at least you'd be piloting a Clan Nova Cat mech in the same sort of state as any true Nova Cat pilot would.