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[SplashDown]

yes please bring back the old frozen city the new frozen city is crap

[Lolo van Trollinger]

i want the old frozen city and very old forest colony back in rotation for a change. the fog and night frozens really where fun. same as winter and summer colony.
different enough for a change, plays different, no extra cost, and we suddenly have more maps. why not ?

[sneakolai]

Since a complaint I've seen/heard often is "more variety," why on Earth, PGI, would you remove maps rather than just adding different versions of them? Just because something is updated doesn't mean you need to axe the original. If nothing else, the old Forest Colony and Frozen City (Night) were aesthetically beautiful maps -- and I run everything on low graphics. I absolutely loved them for that, in addition to allowing virtually every type of mech to have something to do. There were areas to brawl. There were areas to LRM. There were areas to snipe from.

Now I feel everything is long range, and it's boring as heck. I get that others appreciate it, I just don't get this hard-on for maps that are open area. Why not maps that have something for everyone?

I admit I don't know much about coding, but how hard is it to put something back in rotation, and why must it be one or the other? And what about classic maps from older iterations of Mechwarrior? Would that not tickle oldtimer fancy with nostalgia and draw in newcomers for curiosity's sake? What about a contest/outreach to the player community for map design? I guarantee there are creative people out there.

[Jiyu Mononoke]

I wish they would keep all the old maps in rotation.
- No reason we cant have both.

[GernMiester]

All the redone maps look nice. To bad they all add nothing to the game but visuals. Makes me glad they got less than $15 USD from me.

The time wasted making maps that will FOREVER be 80% unused wastes of space is lost. The designers should L2P the game and then make changes. Small maps were fine, there were just way too few maps.

If there were more than 12v12 then maybe they would turn to 40-60% unused wastes of space but the maps are far too large for this game and will always be a nice looking but worthless addition for as long as MWO survives, well unless we get 24v24 or more..

The maps are just getting up to par with cryengine maps from 5 years ago. Stop lying to yourself and pretending they are anything but way too late to the party to matter.

They look nice and provide a false sense of increased TTK by making you wait to fight since the drop zones are so far away.

[Syrkres]

I love both maps and miss the old Frozen City.

Future reference for PGI, why not keep old maps unless they are truly broken.

Bringing it back would be a nice thing...

[Novakaine]

Nope.

[Jables McBarty]

SplashDown, on 25 June 2016 - 06:39 AM, said:

i agree..the new frozen city is ok but imo its a stand off map..90% of time 1st team to rush loses....i prefer the old frozen city map..it had it all..long/med/short range terrain

Let's not get starry-eyed here, old Frozen City was not friendly to long-range 'mechs. Doable, yes, but barely.

But yes I would support bringing it back.

[Wraith 1]

Old Frozen City was my least favorite map in the game by a huge margin. I do not ever want to play on it again, no matter how much it reminds me of Closed Beta.

That said, it'd be nice to have all the old maps available in private matches. Or used in a Solaris gamemode.

[Mister Blastman]

I like the new frozen city more than the old one.

[LordNothing]

just make all "classic maps" available for custom games. some of them are better for 8v8 than the current mega maps paradigm thats going on.

[Nightmare1]

I don't think I'll ever miss the old Frozen City. I do miss the old Forest Colony though.

[StarSauron]

+1
old was the best, people did just go to middle and fight

the new one is boring, too large gap, so people get bored and suicide.



I mean in all the time I did play this map, you do not win by team fight. One of the teams always have guys who run and die, then the rest of the team gives up and goes in the open field and get crushed.

[PhoenixFire55]

Blue Pheonix, on 24 June 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

Please bring back the old "frozen city".

+1

While your at it, bring old River, Forest and Caustic along.

[Mcgral18]

Alistair Winter, on 25 June 2016 - 07:21 AM, said:

New Frozen City is the best map in the game, by far.

Old Frozen City was extremely repetitive.

We already have over 9000 brawling maps in the game. To have one map where both brawling and sniping can be succesful is a breath of fresh air.

Please don't change a thing, PGI. Give your new map designers a pat on the back.

...Which brawling maps do we have left?


RIP Frozen Night

[Dimento Graven]

Blue Pheonix, on 24 June 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

PGI,

Please bring back the old "frozen city".

...

Honestly I don't know why ALL the "old" maps weren't renamed with a prefix of "OLD" and left in the rotation... HELLO, MORE CONTENT? YEAH YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG...

Seriously, all the old maps were still playable, weren't "broken", just inconvenient for some unimaginative silly ninnies who insisted on the Nascar mentality, or whom apparently couldn't turn their 'mechs left or right more than 3 degrees from their original facing.

I liked OLD River City, OLD Caustic Valley, OLD Forest Colony, et al (well, except for OLD Bog, rather been punched in the phallus by a dwarf than play on that one).

Never understood why PGI just threw those away...

Edited by Dimento Graven, 08 December 2016 - 07:46 AM.

[Mcgral18]

Dimento Graven, on 08 December 2016 - 07:45 AM, said:

Honestly I don't know why ALL the "old" maps weren't renamed with a prefix of "OLD" and left in the rotation... HELLO, MORE CONTENT? YEAH YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG...

Seriously, all the old maps were still playable, weren't "broken", just inconvenient for some unimaginative silly ninnies who insisted on the Nascar mentality, or whom apparently couldn't turn their 'mechs left or right more than 3 degrees from their original facing.

I liked OLD River City, OLD Caustic Valley, OLD Forest Colony, et al (well, except for OLD Bog, rather been punched in the phallus by a dwarf than play on that one).

Never understood why PGI just threw those away...

Likely an art and asset thing

Either same names, or old textures replaced entirely

I don't like it

[Lily from animove]

SplashDown, on 26 June 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

yes please bring back the old frozen city the new frozen city is crap

or close the river put more buildings there to just make the city map bigger.

or make both teams spawn at the city and not across the river so that the city part across the river is acting as a palce for lights and snipers to sneak to and flank.

but the spawns make the river basically the omnipresent front in like 95% of the games and this killed like 60% of the map where no one is ever going to or shooting from

Mcgral18, on 08 December 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

Likely an art and asset thing

Either same names, or old textures replaced entirely

I don't like it

yes de_dust de_dust2

so why not caustic_valley1 and caustic_valley2

Edited by Lily from animove, 08 December 2016 - 07:59 AM.

[Weeny Machine]

I would also like to see the old Frozen City back. Why not have the new and old one? Sure, the map was small but action was right there. Plus you had 3 ways to go.

Imo it was far better than this snipefest that the new FC is

Jables McBarty, on 27 June 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

Let's not get starry-eyed here, old Frozen City was not friendly to long-range 'mechs. Doable, yes, but barely.

But yes I would support bringing it back.

Yes, one of the few brawl maps where you had a distinct advantage if you ran such a mech. Therefore I'd love to have it back instead of these peek-a-boo maps which are in the rotation

Edited by Bush Hopper, 08 December 2016 - 08:03 AM.

[Dimento Graven]

Mcgral18, on 08 December 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

Likely an art and asset thing

Either same names, or old textures replaced entirely

I don't like it

You could be right, but honestly it's not the textures that make the map, it's the old map's configurations and lay outs.

So what if the old maps get the new textures, they'll have the same configuration/layout, but just "look better"...