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[Lykaon]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 June 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

Wang currently can do 104 kph with a 300xl.

Centies tank quite well with XLs, so it's a great option. 300xl, AC20, 2x MPL and lots of ammo. Party Time.

Yep it's a Yen lo wang Mine is set up like this as well.

300Xl
Endo steel
AC20
3.5 tons AC20 ammo
2 Medium Pulse lasers
Armor near max (think you need to shave off a 2 points fron LA)

Top speed with tweak is 104.5

Edited by Lykaon, 27 June 2016 - 09:35 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Lykaon, on 27 June 2016 - 09:35 PM, said:

Yep it's a Yen lo wang Mine is set up like this as well.

300Xl
Endo steel
AC20
3.5 tons AC20 ammo
2 Medium Pulse lasers
Armor near max (think you need to shave off a 2 points fron LA)

Top speed with tweak is 104.5

I go a little different, because 3.5 tons is a little lighter in ammo than I prefer for a14 ton investment, and I also never seem to get legged, so it works for me, but YMMV
YEN-LO-WANG

[Navid A1]

You can never go wrong with a WANG.

GET THE WANG.

[Karl Streiger]

The fastest with best options - Enforcer.... the most reliable the Wang (paint it newb green and have fun)

[Wintersdark]

The Wang is the most fun of the options.

I'd never piloted a medium - I went two years of play, all heavies and assaults. Then, after Bishop had been raving about his, they went on sale, so I picked one up on a whim.

It's a TON of fun, and really rewards good piloting in a visceral way. Play aggressive, work those hotboxes, learn to make great AC20 snapshots. It's not what it once was after years of power creep, but it's still an excellent t chassis and oodles of fun to play.

It's the mech that got me hooked on mediums.

[JC Daxion]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 June 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

Wang currently can do 104 kph with a 300xl.

Centies tank quite well with XLs, so it's a great option. 300xl, AC20, 2x MPL and lots of ammo. Party Time.

Yup this is the best bet out of all of them if you ask me.. though you might wanna run with ML's and add 2 more tons of ammo..

[The Mech behind you]

Enforcer 4P:

XL 340 (110 / 118 kph)
AC 20 (3t ammo)
2 MLas

I haven't found a faster (and viable) one yet.

Edited by The Mech behind you, 28 June 2016 - 12:52 AM.

[Dogstar]

Everything Bishop Steiner said.

Seriously though, I use he same build he posted a while ago which is basically the Yen Lo Wan, XL300, full armour and two backup lasers.

It's super fun.

I just wish there were a lot more mechs that could support the arm mounted AC20.

[Wintersdark]

I'm an oddball. The 300 is probably a better build, but I run mine with a 280 and a large pulse laser rather than the pair of mediums. I like the added range and umph.

[Lootee]

Everybody Wang Chung tonight!

The AC/20 Raven is good for a few laughs too, but has it gotten larger in the rescale being a 35 tonner?

[jss78]

The Mech behind you, on 28 June 2016 - 12:51 AM, said:

Enforcer 4P:

XL 340 (110 / 118 kph)
AC 20 (3t ammo)
2 MLas

I haven't found a faster (and viable) one yet.

If we're being literal about what the OP asks for, I think this is the fastest generally reasonable build? Although that BEAUTIFUL Cicada with zero armour and 3 rounds ammo is technically quicker.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Bluefalcon13, on 27 June 2016 - 06:49 PM, said:

Ever have 3.5T of ac20 ammo detonate in your side torso of a standard engine mech? Might as well run an XL at that point

Someone puts ammo in their side torso? LOL

[Bishop Steiner]

JC Daxion, on 28 June 2016 - 12:46 AM, said:

Yup this is the best bet out of all of them if you ask me.. though you might wanna run with ML's and add 2 more tons of ammo..

I avoid the MLs because I feel the burn time wastes the fast twist rate, and puts the right arm in greater jeopardy. It has 4 tons of ammo, which is (IMO) the sweet spot for an ac20, I seldom lose my arm, but I can't realyl think of an instance in needed 6 tons of ammo.

[MeiSooHaityu]

jss78, on 28 June 2016 - 04:14 AM, said:

If we're being literal about what the OP asks for, I think this is the fastest generally reasonable build? Although that BEAUTIFUL Cicada with zero armour and 3 rounds ammo is technically quicker.

Yeah, maybe the OP should have specified practical too lol. In all honesty though, I did debate trying to make a Cicada A/C10 striker while maintaining ECM. I never could design it as fast as I wanted though.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wintersdark, on 28 June 2016 - 03:02 AM, said:

I'm an oddball. The 300 is probably a better build, but I run mine with a 280 and a large pulse laser rather than the pair of mediums. I like the added range and umph.

Yeah, the range is nice, and the extra duration largely negligible. I don't like the sacrifices I have to make for those 4 tons though, personally.... and when I was in my Wang Heyday, the LPL was not nearly in the sweet spot they are today. Though as for "umph" the MPLs hit together, and do 1 extra damage per volley, (for 1 extra heat) and cycle a little faster. With a fixed centerline weapon, I am not too wild about sniping and stuff at range, and prefer to use use cover to get close before announcing my presence. Though there have been times I wished for more range, too. (bloody alpine!)

[Hit the Deck]

In my opinion, Large Pulse Laser(s) is more suitable on the CN9-D with its AC/10+LPL (XL300) or the CN9-AL, naturally.

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 June 2016 - 04:43 AM, said:

Yeah, the range is nice, and the extra duration largely negligible. I don't like the sacrifices I have to make for those 4 tons though, personally.... and when I was in my Wang Heyday, the LPL was not nearly in the sweet spot they are today. Though as for "umph" the MPLs hit together, and do 1 extra damage per volley, (for 1 extra heat) and cycle a little faster. With a fixed centerline weapon, I am not too wild about sniping and stuff at range, and prefer to use use cover to get close before announcing my presence. Though there have been times I wished for more range, too. (bloody alpine!)

*3 tons. 2xMPL=4t, LPL=7t. But yeah, it's hard to do, and why I never say my build is just better.

But I use mine for a very good reason.

I found that 2xML didn't work well, because the 2ML's where both doing less damage and hotter, while their .9s burn is just too long. MPL or LPL, with .6 and .67 (essentially identical) burn times make a big difference in getting that damage out and twisting away again ASAP.

MPL's where far superior In The Good Old Days, when maps where small and the game was 8v8 and heavily brawl centric.

But my experience with more modern MWO is that many engagements happen at longer distances. Eventually things close, but when I ran dual MPL's I found that more than half my shots where being fired at ~350-400m, and essentially doing no real damage at all. Sure they were great once we closed, but I wanted to be able to contribute more in the earlier phases of the match.

Now, the LPL offers me the ability to push more damage for less heat, even in the (critical) ~240-300 range, where the AC20 is still doing 20 (or nearly 20) damage. For me, in solo queue play that allows me to get a much more flexible performance that isn't stymied by teams that stubbornly refuse to close.

But that's all just me, and as I said, if I were voting for best build, I'd probably vote MPL. Just... I hate being *that* range limited with the bigger maps and engagement ranges we have today.

[VirtualSmitty]

The Mech behind you, on 28 June 2016 - 12:51 AM, said:

Enforcer 4P:

XL 340 (110 / 118 kph)
AC 20 (3t ammo)
2 MLas

I haven't found a faster (and viable) one yet.

I run this exact build, I like how it has full range of motion on the AC20 arm.

[CygnusX7]

A Wang trumps all when it comes to a fast ac/20.
Torso twisting results in std engine like survival while using an XL.
No JJ's but it's just built better than the other fast mechs that can carry an AC20.


YEN-LO-WANG

and those 2mpl's add up in damage when you lost an arm or are out of 4 tons of ammo.

[Kubernetes]

I don't own a Wang, but don't underestimate the Enforcer 4P. The thing is a beast that punches way above its weight and can beat almost any mech that's dumb enough to corner trade with you (because it's fast and can swing that AC arm around for extremely quick snapshots). The hitboxes must have some special magic because I swear the thing just laughs off laser vomit with a slight twist.

And the BJ-1 is riskier because it's squishier, but the JJs allow you to play a jump-peek style that is crazy fun. Just hang a little behind your assaults. When the fun begins just JJ and lob shots over the top.