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Which Will Get Nerfed First Locust Or Kodiak 3?


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#41 Steve Pryde

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:00 PM

Take Kodiak quirks und give them the Dire Wolf. I think this mech needs these quirks much more than any Kodiak variant.

#42 Sjorpha

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:05 PM

View Postdario03, on 29 June 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

A lot of you guys are only saying which you think should be nerfed but not stating which you think will get nerfed by PGI first. We can assume you expect what you want nerfed to be nerfed first but the main question in the thread was - Which do you think will be nerfed first?


That is a begging the question fallacy though, the question itself assumes both will be nerfed so there is no proper answer if you don't agree with that presumption.

As an example of another BTQ fallacy: If someone asks "what caused the universe" that is a fallacious question because we don't know if the universe has a cause or not.

Edited by Sjorpha, 29 June 2016 - 02:09 PM.


#43 dario03

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:07 PM

View PostSjorpha, on 29 June 2016 - 02:05 PM, said:


That is begging the question though, the question itself assumes both will be nerfed so there is no proper answer if you don't agree with that presumption.


Then you simply state that you don't think either will be nerfed.

#44 Lykaon

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:12 PM

View PostFlutterguy, on 28 June 2016 - 07:46 PM, said:

No reason to nerf the Locust. It's a nuisance but it's not really swinging games.



Have you actually seen the resize of the Locust compared to the other light mechs ? It seriously looks like a mistake was made here if you look at it objectivley.

If you own a Locust drop into the training grounds in 3rd person mode and park next to the Jenner there when you see the Jenner is pretty much twice the size of the Locust you may rethink the rescale.

How is it that 20 tons of mech is sized at half of a 35 ton mech?

#45 Steve Pryde

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:14 PM

View PostLykaon, on 29 June 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

How is it that 20 tons of mech is sized at half of a 35 ton mech?

Because it's nearly half the tonnage of a Jenner?

#46 Sjorpha

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:16 PM

View Postdario03, on 29 June 2016 - 02:07 PM, said:

Then you simply state that you don't think either will be nerfed.


You can do that, but when a question contains a BTQ fallacy and you don't agree with the presumption, the natural response is often to ignore the question and instead say something on the general topic. The question also links the Kodiak and Locust together for no apparent reason, so it looks like a false correlation on top of the BTQ.

My point is that the reason your question is being ignored is simply because it is a bad question.

#47 TheLuc

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:16 PM

there is more important matters for this game than the locust or the kodiak-3

#48 Jables McBarty

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:25 PM

View PostThe Mech behind you, on 29 June 2016 - 04:24 AM, said:

wait... plenty of threads calling for a locust nerf??? I have seen one in the patch feedback which I can't take serious. I must have missed a few.

Ok, the KDK-3 is a beast but I (finally) learned how to deal with it. Meanwhile I like to attack them in my meds or fast heavies. It's challenging / entertaining but doable Posted Image but that's maybe just me.


Well, whether or not they should be taken seriously is a different question...


View PostLykaon, on 29 June 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:


Have you actually seen the resize of the Locust compared to the other light mechs ? It seriously looks like a mistake was made here if you look at it objectivley.

If you own a Locust drop into the training grounds in 3rd person mode and park next to the Jenner there when you see the Jenner is pretty much twice the size of the Locust you may rethink the rescale.

How is it that 20 tons of mech is sized at half of a 35 ton mech?

View PostSteve Pryde, on 29 June 2016 - 02:14 PM, said:

Because it's nearly half the tonnage of a Jenner?


Obvious answer is obvious :)

#49 dario03

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 02:29 PM

View PostSjorpha, on 29 June 2016 - 02:16 PM, said:


You can do that, but when a question contains a BTQ fallacy and you don't agree with the presumption, the natural response is often to ignore the question and instead say something on the general topic. The question also links the Kodiak and Locust together for no apparent reason, so it looks like a false correlation on top of the BTQ.

My point is that the reason your question is being ignored is simply because it is a bad question.


This is a internet forum not a court of law or philosophy debate. I could have written out a longer version of the question to avoid that but it shouldn't be needed nor would it necessarily have stopped people from posting the types of answers that they have.

Edited by dario03, 29 June 2016 - 02:41 PM.






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