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[cazidin]

Greetings Mechwarriors. Here are a few easy steps to avoid complete and total annihilation from a tactical nuclear strike.

Step 1.Identify purple smoke.
Step 2.Move away from purple smoke.
Step 3.???
Step 4.Profit!

This has been an educational forum post. I hope that you too will die less from the Long Tom in the future with this invaluable information on how to safely avoid death by nuke. In our next post, how to avoid death by chocolate.

[SecretMantis]

OP, when was the last time you had a long tom against your team and won a match? You make it sound so simple, but its not.

[Count Zero 74]

Step 1: Don't drop against Long Tom

[Black Ivan]

Post makes no sense. When you see the smoke it is far too late.

[windermere]

After they get Long Tom, stop dropping Invasion. Start scouting and get it down or switch to another planet.

[Jman5]

God, I just can't take it anymore. I'm getting real sick of people who don't even play talking down to others like we're a bunch of idiots who never thought to try to get out of range of the f*cking massively huge AOE Long Tom.



You have played 3 Faction Play matches TOTAL since Phase 3 and Long Toms were released. You have next to zero experience with the game mode or Long Toms, yet you're going to come in here and tell us what we're doing so wrong?

Only very fast lights and mediums even have a chance at clearing the AOE of a Long Tom dropping on them and only if they spot the smoke instantly. Anything else is going to be crippled or straight out killed by it before they can get out of range.

Edited by Jman5, 04 July 2016 - 11:19 AM.

[Deathlike]

See, the counter to the Long Tom requires EVERYONE (all 12 players) to be on the same page.

Given that it is already difficult as is to get pugs on the same page, it inevitably works to the Long Tom's advantage (auto-seeking the most densely populated cluster of enemy mechs).


Unless people magically ALL get into the habit of learning how the long tom works (instead of panicing like chickens with their heads cut off), it's always going to make you pay for your lack of coordination.

It's still too high a requirement though.

[Voidcrafter]

cazidin, on 04 July 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

Greetings Mechwarriors. Here are a few easy steps to avoid complete and total annihilation from a tactical nuclear strike.

Step 1.Identify purple smoke.
Step 2.Move away from purple smoke.
Step 3.???
Step 4.Profit!

This has been an educational forum post. I hope that you too will die less from the Long Tom in the future with this invaluable information on how to safely avoid death by nuke. In our next post, how to avoid death by chocolate.

Oh is that so?
Last time I heard people are bringing stuff different from 130+kph moving lights to the FP battlefield(well the game forces them to... sort of ).
Have you tried doing this with a Marauder/Atlas/Warhammer or TBR/Warhawk/Direwolf/Kodiak/Hellbringer mate?

[cazidin]

SecretMantis, on 04 July 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

OP, when was the last time you had a long tom against your team and won a match? You make it sound so simple, but its not.

I honestly have avoided FP during the event but see my second point, please.

Jman5, on 04 July 2016 - 11:18 AM, said:

God, I just can't take it anymore. I'm getting real sick of people who don't even play talking down to others like we're a bunch of idiots who never thought to try to get out of range of the f*cking massively huge AOE Long Tom.



You have played 3 Faction Play matches TOTAL since Phase 3 and Long Toms were released. You have next to zero experience with the game mode or Long Toms, yet you're going to come in here and tell us what we're doing so wrong?

Only very fast lights and mediums even have a chance at clearing the AOE of a Long Tom dropping on them and only if they spot the smoke instantly. Anything else is going to be crippled or straight out killed by it before they can get out of range.

It seems that in all the FW matches you've played that you've either lost or never had and never found a sense of humor. This post is intended to satirize all the "LONG TOM OP PLEASE REMOVE!" threads that are full of hyperbole or a general absence of common sense.

Yes, the Long Tom is quite powerful at the moment and should be nerfed, both the damage and radius. I don't think PGI needs to increase the timer delay, just yet. Implement those two changes first and see from there. I'm adamant against the Long Tom's removal, personally. We all wanted that for so many years and it's a great weapon in TT. Losing it would be unacceptable, to me, at least.

Deathlike, on 04 July 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

See, the counter to the Long Tom requires EVERYONE (all 12 players) to be on the same page.

Given that it is already difficult as is to get pugs on the same page, it inevitably works to the Long Tom's advantage (auto-seeking the most densely populated cluster of enemy mechs).


Unless people magically ALL get into the habit of learning how the long tom works (instead of panicing like chickens with their heads cut off), it's always going to make you pay for your lack of coordination.

It's still too high a requirement though.

5.Avoid PUGs. Run with your Unit. If you cannot, attempt to coordinate the PUGs as best as you can.

Edited by cazidin, 04 July 2016 - 03:33 PM.

[LordNothing]

ive won in the face of long tom once. we were fighting very aggressively against a team that wasnt very good. we were reinforcing a lot instead of stacking up by the gate, this kept everyone moving to the front. the only static players were in brawls on the front line. this reduced long tom kills, and when they did happen it usually took out a few of the enemy as well (the last 2 enemy mechs were killed thusly).

would this work against an organized team? probibly not, unless you were also well organized. we had a drop caller but were mostly pugs, the other team was skittles. reinforcing is usually a very good way to get dead very fast, but in my case it worked. between the constant brawls and the chaos of long toms blowing everyone up it was enough to tip the tables.

[Carl Vickers]

LT helps bad units and pugs win in easy mode, hows that working out for you cazidin, .5 W/L ratio, not so good methinks.

When you have more experience playing FW and against LT then you have a right to comment, until then, stay in the back of the room and listen politely.

[oldradagast]

Step 0: Don't play Faction Play until PGI makes it something other than a joke.

How adding an mindless auto-kill mechanic into the game made it past playtesting (haha, I know) is beyond me. Best way to avoid it is to not play a game mode with it, IMHO.

[badaa]

or just dont play

[justcallme A S H]

Jman5, on 04 July 2016 - 11:18 AM, said:

God, I just can't take it anymore. I'm getting real sick of people who don't even play talking down to others like we're a bunch of idiots who never thought to try to get out of range of the f*cking massively huge AOE Long Tom.

Hahaha nice investigative work. I LOL'd hard.

Made my day man.