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[Rock Roller]

Dieing for a new light. I have always thought the Super Wasp was awesome. I can so see this unit with ECM being a blast. Not a match for that Arctic Cheetah in the Assasian bussiness but a ton of fun.

What do you guys think? At this point all new light units are welcome. Any Wasp or Stinger units would be cool. Getting a bit burnt on all the heavy's and assaults. Please for the love of god add a new light. Will preorder today.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

1) *Drinks*

2) They made 2 prototypes of the super wasp, 1 overheated and got shot down, the other took a LL to the SRM ammo and blew the **** up.

3) No one really reads this section and you should get it moved to general discussion.

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 06 August 2016 - 10:08 PM.

[Rock Roller]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 06 August 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

1) *Drinks*

2) They made 2 prototypes of the super wasp, 1 overheated and got shot down, the other took a LL to the SRM ammo and blew the **** up.

3) No one really reads this section and you should get it moved to general discussion.

Fun guy, that name says it all I guess.

1) Might explain your fun nature.

2) Yep they did, and if your would have read the book you would know one prototype did have a problem but they did well in a first outing and where a bit outclassed.

3) Its more about the need for more lights in the game not really a specific mech. General discussions may be a good place but since light pilots read this sub forum it makes a bit of sense to post here. Have a nice night.

Edited by Rock Roller, 06 August 2016 - 11:15 PM.

[Steel Raven]

Keep in mind that the Super Wasp used a prototype Super Charger, something that won't hit mass production until the Jihad era (why MASC was so popular up to that point) so that means new code for one mech.

Probably see the Thorn, Jackel or Valkyrie before a Super Wasp.

I would like to see a Spector myself but it has a much later intro date and a ECM capable 35 ton light with JJ may kill the Panther.

[Rock Roller]

I will take about any light and give it a go. The Spector and Valkyrie are always cool. Heck a Wasp/Stinger package would be awesome.

[stealthraccoon]

How's about we get the normal Wasp going before we get all 'super' with it, n'kay?

But I got in for the Jackrabbit before you get Super Wasps!

Edited by stealthraccoon, 07 August 2016 - 05:33 PM.

[jss78]

I guess a Super Wasp pack would be a little weird, as it was just a prototype. If they ever do a Wasp pack, maybe they could throw it in as one variant. Given the rarity, it could maybe be the hero.

Though it'd be different tonnage compared to the others, not sure if that should be a problem. That said, if they ever do the Flea, I've love if they included the 15-tonner variant. For those looking for a super-hardcore mode.

[Rock Roller]

It would be a cool addition to a wasp/ stinger pack.

[Steel Raven]

It's different tonnage so I wouldn't count on it, though I can see a hero/bonus Wasp built similar to the 3S would be a nice.

[martian]

Rock Roller, on 06 August 2016 - 09:31 PM, said:

I can so see this unit with ECM being a blast.

Super Wasp had no ECM.

[Rock Roller]

Yep I know. I said I can see it with ECM being a blast. It's also an old design prior to ECM. Like many things that are updated, it could be as well. Honestly we just need some lights added. It's about time. Pick the light you like and insert it. I would happily give it a go.

Have the locusts and Cheetah pulling most of the games now. Have the Jenners, Wolf Hound and Ravens. Have had in the past or have tried the other units and itching for something new.

The Super Wasp was in one of the first Battletech publications and I always thought it was cool. That being said...the Specter would rock and it's current (MWO) tech with all the goodies.

[martian]

Rock Roller, on 12 August 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

Yep I know. I said I can see it with ECM being a blast. It's also an old design prior to ECM. Like many things that are updated, it could be as well. Honestly we just need some lights added. It's about time. I would happily give it a go.

Have the locusts and Cheetah pulling most of the games now. Have the Jenners, Wolf Hound and Ravens. Have had in the past or have tried the other units and itching for something new.

The Super Wasp was in one of the first Battletech publications and I always thought it was cool.

Usually people take 30- and 35-tonners such as Hankyus, Firestarters, Wolfhounds, Jenners or Jenners IIC.

25-tonners such as Commando or Koshi are rare because they are fragile and can't carry too many weapons. Super Wasp would be something like Commando, albeit with Jump Jets.

Perhaps the only 25-tonner worth including would be Raptor OmniMech.

Rock Roller, on 12 August 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

That being said...the Specter would rock and it's current (MWO) tech with all the goodies.

The majority of Spector models was equipped with tech not available in MWO, such as Chameleon LPS or Stealth Armor.

Rock Roller, on 12 August 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

Pick the light you like and insert it.

Dunno. Hellion maybe? Or Peregrine perhaps. Venom would have the advantage that PGI could reuse some parts from Spider.

[Rock Roller]

martian, on 12 August 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

Usually people take 30- and 35-tonners such as Hankyus, Firestarters, Wolfhounds, Jenners or Jenners IIC.

25-tonners such as Commando or Koshi are rare because they are fragile and can't carry too many weapons. Super Wasp would be something like Commando, albeit with Jump Jets.

Perhaps the only 25-tonner worth including would be Raptor OmniMech.


The majority of Spector models was equipped with tech not available in MWO, such as Chameleon LPS or Stealth Armor.


Dunno. Hellion maybe? Or Peregrine perhaps. Venom would have the advantage that PGI could reuse some parts from Spider.

You may be right on the effectiveness of 25 ton mechs especially on the IS side. I have similar thinking here. That's why I didn't suggest the even smaller 20 ton Wasp that I really like in old school Battletech. I do think something workable at 25 tons can be done though. I actually built out the Super Wasp in a Battlemech builder to see if it would be viable in the current game. It would be, 2 ML with SRM2 or 4 SL, ECM, XL175/XL200 for speed, JJs and good armor for a 25 ton unit. Lightly armed but I could have a blast in it.

On the Spector. It was reintroduced in the 3058 Technical Readout. It uses nothing we don't currently have access to. The SLDF models have the Chameleon Light Polarization Shield and other stealth features we don't have access to that that is true of many of the SLDF variants of mechs that used to be made.

Clan Mechs from the same era that would be awesome are there as well. Piranhas at 20 tons could be a blast. Commando IIC would be deadly at 25 tons. The Vixen is very nice at 30 tons and a sweet looking unit.

Edited by Rock Roller, 17 August 2016 - 11:45 AM.

[King Kahuna]

It would be okay but a bit under-gunned. I would buy it though. Same Tonnage would be 4 ML and you have a Mini PHX or Arctic Cheetah. I bet the could scale down the Phoenix Hawk as a quick and dirty way to do it.

Now I would LOVE the Specter or the Vixen/Incubus. Both would be awesome.

Looked the Piranha up as I had totally forgot about that one. That could be amazing.

Edited by King Kahuna, 13 August 2016 - 06:14 PM.

[Steel Raven]

Piranha my crash the game considering the multiple 4X MG Spider really screws with the frame rate during a match, a Piranha event may be a comical train wreck unless I missed a update regarding the servers.

I'm also a fan of the Vixen/Incubus, it would make for a solid Clan Light and we are in the right place time wise to see it.

[Y E O N N E]

I want only chicken walkers.

Unless it's a Firemoth.

[Steel Raven]

Fire Falcon, it's a Omni Jenner.

The Cougar also been popular in past games though it mirrors the Adder in many ways.

[Blind Baku]

[insert bad jokes about derogatory terms]
That said, I wouldn'd mind seeing things like the Flea, Howler, Mercury, Piranha, Snowfox, [anything else that is effectively in the 20t range so I can assume it will be size like a small and not taller than half of the mediums]...