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[Dingo Battler]

Interesting stats before methodology.

Players with more than 25 matches since 21 June: 23,572
Players with more than 50 matches since 21 June: 16,483 - Used this


Median Score: 203
Median KDR: 0.93
Median WLR: 1.0

Average Score: 198
Average KDR: 1.054
Average WLR: 1.0639

Highest match score is Victoria Seymore, match score of 637, 10.00 KDR, 4.21 WLR
Highest KDR is Zeleglok, match score 388, KDR 14.50, 7.57 WLR
Highest WLR is TwinkyOverlord, match score 365, KDR 9.71, WLR 24.67(!!! Next best is Aresye with 10.60)

Lowest match score is 8
Lowest KDR is 0 (Literally no kills), second best is 1/79
Lowest WLR is 0.09 (4 wins 47 losses) - Same guy as lowest match score (why.jpg)

My Stats are: Value (Rank) [Percentile]
Matchscore: 299 (621) [3.77%]
KDR: 2.77 (309) [1.87%]
WLR: 1.63 (830) [5.04%]


The entire table is on reddit. just download and cleanup. Due to formatting, numbers will appear as text, add an additional column next to the stat, and enter the formula:

=VALUE(TRIM(CLEAN(A1)))

Where A1 is the cell next to the column you want to clean up. Then double click on the bottom right corner to replicate the formula downwards to all cells. Copy all results from the new column and paste into the old column (right click, paste special, values), then you can delete your new column.

To filter less than X number of matches, use the following formula:

=IF(I2>50,Yes,No)

Then filter by "No", highlight and delete all "No" (Highlight entire row, hold shift+ctrl, press down, right click and delete) then unfilter, and play with the results.

Edited by KBurn85, 11 July 2016 - 04:46 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

So many bads.

Thanks for the stats!

Did someone scrub the entire leaderboard by hand?

Edited by Mister Blastman, 11 July 2016 - 04:40 PM.

[Carl Vickers]

Mister Blastman, on 11 July 2016 - 04:40 PM, said:

So many bads.

So many stat padders who sit behind hills and cycle through targets till they find one cored and take it down. There are some legit awesome sauce players but they are getting chased by peeps using the above tactics and ruining matches.

Leaderboard is bad.

[Aiden Skye]

Between the 1 matchers and the players that live in Quad UAC10 KDK's to farm damage, leaderboards are a waste of time. Group queue, solo queue all mashed together, full spectrum of chassis ranging from godly to godly bad...why even bother.

[Dingo Battler]

Damage and KMDD should be in the stats. Says a lot more than KDR and WLR. Can see from the top players, while it has impact on match score, it is not really too necessary to be a top scorer.

Also, I would like to ask how the top scorers got their insane scores. Victoria Seymore, most of all. The other 2 have a 300+ matchscore, which is great, but do-able (I'm 299 with solo drop, so 300+ in a unit is definitely doable), but to constantly pump out a 600+ matchscore is just insane, even with a unit. 600+ matchscore means Victoria is consistently pumping out 1000+ damage per match, which is pretty much a fantastic score for even the best players.

[Dingo Battler]

Mister Blastman, on 11 July 2016 - 04:40 PM, said:

So many bads.

Thanks for the stats!

Did someone scrub the entire leaderboard by hand?

Got to be fair to the average player mate. The median KDR would be less than 1.0, because in a perfect world with equally skilled players, they would kill 1 time and die 1 time each. MWO is a very hard game with a steep learning/progression curve, so the goods are much better than the bads, so a median of less than 1.0 is expected.

I'll be the first to admit that my WLR and KDR when I first entered T2 was around 1.0. It takes time to get used to your tier, and actually do well.

Also, wait times are getting longer. If anything, I think more people needs to be bumped out to T1/2.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I am currently scoring higher in the Fun Board than most if the Top 100 in the leaderboard.


Just saying, SplatJenners, BoomK2s, and DakkaMaulers are very amusing to me :-)

[Macster16]

KBurn85, on 11 July 2016 - 04:52 PM, said:

Damage and KMDD should be in the stats. Says a lot more than KDR and WLR. Can see from the top players, while it has impact on match score, it is not really too necessary to be a top scorer.

Also, I would like to ask how the top scorers got their insane scores. Victoria Seymore, most of all. The other 2 have a 300+ matchscore, which is great, but do-able (I'm 299 with solo drop, so 300+ in a unit is definitely doable), but to constantly pump out a 600+ matchscore is just insane, even with a unit. 600+ matchscore means Victoria is consistently pumping out 1000+ damage per match, which is pretty much a fantastic score for even the best players.

Victoria Seymore is an alt of a very good player from a top unit (not sure if I can name), so I wouldn't be surprised if it's somewhere in tier 3 (could be wrong). Also, if you look at the assault board, you can see that Victoria Seymore's games have exclusively been in assaults....which looks like some passionate KDK-3 lovin' to me....

Edited by Macster16, 11 July 2016 - 05:30 PM.

[Mystere]

Carl Vickers, on 11 July 2016 - 04:43 PM, said:

Leaderboard is bad.

MWO is primarily and openly eSports now.

W A R K H A N, on 11 July 2016 - 04:52 PM, said:

Between the 1 matchers and the players that live in Quad UAC10 KDK's to farm damage, leaderboards are a waste of time. Group queue, solo queue all mashed together, full spectrum of chassis ranging from godly to godly bad...why even bother.

You are no longer the target audience ... and have not been for a while now.

Edited by Mystere, 11 July 2016 - 05:42 PM.

[Carl Vickers]

Mystere, on 11 July 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

MWO is primarily and openly eSports now.





You are no longer the target audience ... and have not been for a while now.

I feel that from my island, time to buy a mech pack ;p

[Mister Blastman]

Carl Vickers, on 11 July 2016 - 04:43 PM, said:

So many stat padders who sit behind hills and cycle through targets till they find one cored and take it down. There are some legit awesome sauce players but they are getting chased by peeps using the above tactics and ruining matches.

Leaderboard is bad.

Yep. I'm so sure everyone with a >2 KDR and >1.5 win/loss hides and pads stats...

Edited by Mister Blastman, 11 July 2016 - 07:09 PM.

[Dingo Battler]

Mister Blastman, on 11 July 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

Yep. I'm so sure everyone with a >2 KDR and >1.5 win/loss hides and pads stats...

To be fair, my normal KDR is 1.89, but its 2.77 on the leaderboards, because I've been messing around with my KDK (and my FSH, and CLPT to a lesser extent)

I'd imagine anyone who bought a KDK would have a statistically significant higher KDR, matchscore and even WLR than average, because its a really good mech. Unfortunately, don't have the data for that, other than sample size 1 (myself)

[VictoriaSeymore]

VictoriaSeymore = LORD KAFFEANGST ggclose™

Using Victoria account to have 100% solo queue statistics. As you can see in the forum profile, it's a Tier 1 account. I'm limited on mech selection with this account, thus I'm using Assault (Kodiak) only in order to farm C-Bill's. Currently have a 638 average match score. This is achieved by averaging 1083 damage/match with 2.84 kills/match (plus winning and not dying). While the Kodiak is strong, its performance in terms of K/D is in line with previous "top tier" mechs. The only difference is the average damage numbers, which are higher due to the spread damage.

Edited by VictoriaSeymore, 11 July 2016 - 09:43 PM.

[Lehmund]

Just let peeps itch 50+ matches in have a spot on the board. Problem solved.

Stats of players with fewer matches are meaningless.

[Davegt27]

I am rank 17,047 by match score

[Gladius Vittoris]

KBurn85, on 11 July 2016 - 04:31 PM, said:

Highest match score is Victoria Seymore, match score of 637, 10.00 KDR, 4.21 WLR
Highest KDR is Zeleglok, match score 388, KDR 14.50, 7.57 WLR
Highest WLR is TwinkyOverlord, match score 365, KDR 9.71, WLR 24.67(!!! Next best is Aresye with 10.60)

and totally solo que, right?

LOL

Pgi should have splitted solo and group leaderboard.....but they are too much r3t4r3d

[Moment Killer]

KBurn85, on 11 July 2016 - 04:52 PM, said:

but to constantly pump out a 600+ matchscore is just insane, even with a unit. 600+ matchscore means Victoria is consistently pumping out 1000+ damage per match, which is pretty much a fantastic score for even the best players.

I've been watching him (Kaffeangst) do this for years and have no problem vouching for his ability to be consistent on this level, as would anyone else who has ever gamed with him. Not just mechwarrior, he's an elite gamer.

[MOBAjobg]

VictoriaSeymore, on 11 July 2016 - 09:41 PM, said:

VictoriaSeymore = LORD KAFFEANGST ggclose™

Using Victoria account to have 100% solo queue statistics. As you can see in the forum profile, it's a Tier 1 account. I'm limited on mech selection with this account, thus I'm using Assault (Kodiak) only in order to farm C-Bill's. Currently have a 638 average match score. This is achieved by averaging 1083 damage/match with 2.84 kills/match (plus winning and not dying). While the Kodiak is strong, its performance in terms of K/D is in line with previous "top tier" mechs. The only difference is the average damage numbers, which are higher due to the spread damage.

We'd played in a couple of solo quick play games, with and against each other. If I can still recall, there was a game where Victoria had managed to obtain "Damage" > 1800 and "Match Score" > 1000 ...it's so impressive.

Facts about myself.
I just play in solo quick play (100%) games only too. My PSR is about 80% of Tier 2 and going up at a rate of up to 5% daily.

[meteorol]

You could have linked the google doc the person on reddit created. He added another version of it with only people with 30+ matches on it.

https://docs.google....1#gid=955184283

It doesn't update though, stats are from yesterday.

[MrMadguy]

Yeah, this stats confirm, that stabilization level supposed to be W/L = 1, K/D = 1 and MS = 200, as I thought.


The problem is in fact, that all players have to stabilize at this level. But it's just an average. I.e. majority of players are either below or above average. And this can happen only via one way - matchmaker mixes both players above and below average in one match. Why? It's simple. You simply can't be above average without some other players in your match being below average. If your W/L = 2 - then there should be a players in your matches, who have W/L = 0.5. If your K/D = 2 - then there should be a players in your matches, who have K/D = 0.5. If your average MS = 300, then there should be a players in your matches, who have average MS = 100. It's simple.

And this is wrong. You should play with players, who have equal skill and performance. If you're below average - your rating should drop to allow you to play with less skilled players - i.e. rise your statistics. If you're above average - your rating should rise, so you will be playing with more skilled players, who have the same skill level, as you. At the end all players should have the same statistics - W/L = 1, K/D = 1, MS = some level, which depends on matchmaking constants (200 - is too low, as I think, cuz 200MS match - is inferior match). If it isn't the case for majority of players - then there are only two possibilities: 1) Players haven't settled on their rating yet 2) Matchmaker isn't working properly. #2 is more probable, cuz, I think, players had enough time since implementation of PSR to settle on their ratings.

Edited by MrMadguy, 12 July 2016 - 02:01 AM.