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[Tristan Winter]

I haven't noticed any particular change. If anything, I would say it's getting better. I have a list of about 20 people I've blocked on the forum over the years and some of them are actually being somewhat civil towards me from time to time. So the number of people who are rude to me seems to be declining. And a lot of the people who used to be rude have left the game.

There's also a lot less bittervet vs white knight discussion compared to before. The most bitter bittervets are gone, and the whitest white knights have faded as well. Now it's just different shades of grey (no naughty jokes plz).

[MadcatX]

Cygone, on 12 July 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

It depends. when someone is playing FP and they takes AC2/LRM/MG they are intentionally ruining the game for the other 11 team members, is that something we should be happy about?

I do find FP does have a bit more rudeness to it, more people take it seriously and rightfully they should since it is, at least in theory, supposed to be the more serious game mode considering the time commitment among other things.

[Bishop Steiner]

MadcatX, on 12 July 2016 - 11:01 AM, said:

I do find FP does have a bit more rudeness to it, more people take it seriously and rightfully they should since it is, at least in theory, supposed to be the more serious game mode considering the time commitment among other things.

and "serious buziness" should always come with an increase in childish rancor and behavior......

[Alienized]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 July 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

still salty about that Bog Match, eh?

not at all. im just a friend of beeing honest to honest.
i just had to facetank 3 mechs (2 assaults, 1 marauder) in a dragon-1c because our 3 assaults been chasing 2 meds around until the enemy assaults were at them.

guy with less damage in kodiak thinks im crying about our assaults while in fact i just pointed at their massive fail. its quite a shame that a dragon has to do what the fkin assaults should have done while they been doing what the dragon was made for.

ppl still complain about mechs not having a role? lol.
i kinda laugh at them while they hide under their trollhat because they cant think at all.

Edited by Alienized, 12 July 2016 - 11:08 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 July 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

scorpions are quite venomous by nature.

Not all Scorpions are venomous.

Some of them carry 7ton Particle Projector Cannons and Missile launchers!

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 12 July 2016 - 11:20 AM.

[Littlerift]

I've returned after about a year of not playing (on a new account no less, so I'm back at tier 5) and I honestly think the community is much less toxic than it was. Almost every game there are some really nice people in the chat/on VOIP. It's one of the better communities, imo.

[Bud Crue]

I don't think people are "toxic", rather they are chronically disappointed.

I think that sense of disappointment has increased and might be being expressed as a result of a combination of factors including:

- the build up of excitement and launch of steam followed by its apparent failure,
- P3 (long tom, Russ's inconsistent messaging regarding units and their impact on the game, the failure of creating any sense of interaction despite MC awards for taking planets and voting, etc.),
- the tournament (drawing many players away from the regular population, burnout for them longer wait times for us),
- the perception that the introduction of goodie crates implies (forget battletech this is an arcade shooter!), and
- the implication of the March (drunken) and April (hostile) town halls (that PGI just doesn't care anymore).

Add all that up -all of that which occurred within a fairly short time frame- and I think a lot of folks are just feeling like the game and/or PGI is not offering them a whole lot of reasons to be...well...other than disappointed.

I am certainly feeling it too, but I still love the game. I just want it to be better.

Edited by Bud Crue, 12 July 2016 - 11:13 AM.

[MadcatX]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 July 2016 - 11:02 AM, said:

and "serious buziness" should always come with an increase in childish rancor and behavior......

It shouldn't but it seems to be a common thing in video games among other things nowadays.

[Kimberm1911]

Perhaps it is just my perception then. I could have just had a few bad matches with angry players. I just don't recall people being as big of jerks as they have been. I've always noticed the, "Git gud" crowd, but the amount of people who are just intentionally making rude comments is increased. Or at least, maybe I'm starting to notice it more.

I agree that this is definitely one of the better gaming communities, probably in part due to the fact that we do not have a massive demographic of adolescents ruining the game experience.

[Moldur]

I think people that use the word toxic are toxic.

[Dread Render]

been getting allot of new players in the games I'm in lately.
that's the schools out thing no doubt.
it freaks out some of the regular players and they vent when they see some the the stupid things that new players do.
...just have to grin and bare it.

[Moldur]

Dread Render, on 12 July 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

been getting allot of new players in the games I'm in lately.
that's the schools out thing no doubt.
it freaks out some of the regular players and they vent when they see some the the stupid things that new players do.
...just have to grin and bare it.

If you look at the steam chart, There was a spike in May as in slightly less people left the game, and there have been slightly (and I mean slightly) more players in the last 30 days. It might be natural to assume so, but MWO is by no stretch inundated with kids out of school. IIRC, it doesn't show people playing the game through the standalone launcher, but I would think that it at least roughly shows the trends of the entire player population.

http://steamcharts.com/app/342200#All

[Obadiah333]

There are some really rude/idiotic folk, but they seem fairly rare. The easiest solution is to click their name, select block, then select report - choose whatever they did that was offensive, and move on. Works for me.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 July 2016 - 10:48 AM, said:

Honestly, I felt that things have been pretty mellow, overall, since mid to late late 2014. Especially compared to how it was in 2013 where it was a true cesspit. But the last few townhalls, the related releases of the rifleman, archer, etc, the flop of FW Phase 3, all have ratcheted things up a bit again.

Kinda long for the old days because it was entertainment during the grind. Now with pay half of what it was then have to deal with all the special snowflakes is boring deluxe.

My message to all the snowflakes.......

Sorry, I drop to stomp you so I can not make you feel special like the boys at the country club.

Grow some backbone please.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

JC Daxion, on 12 July 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

as far as forums go, I don't really think so, it's just they seem more vocal for some reason.. The whole, i spent XXX amount and the game is not what i want.. Or PGI sucks, or doesn't care.. (because Russ made an off handed statement basically boiling down to, we can't please everyone) It's more the Parrot effect, repeat something enough and it might become true in their eyes. But honestly it does make me laugh, as most of the most outspoken are people that have played 1k's of hours and maybe 2k, 3k or 5k+ matches and the game sucks.. You know like reading steam rants of how aweful a game is yet has 1500 hours played. I dunno about you, but for me a bad game gets maybe an hour or two tops.. Heck often games i like or find interesting barely make it past the 2-3 hour mark, because i have other games that i just love more.

Honestly a lot of us were hoping CW phase 3: the rebranding was going to be something far far more substantial since PGI had said they were working on it for quite a while. As such... we were willing to cut PGI a bit more slack because we're still naive optimistic fools deep down that WANT this game to be much much more than it currently is.

For a lot of us... well there's not much indication that PGI is going to start working on anything substantial, certainly not before MWO fails miserably as an e-sport (which it most likely will as mwo isn't big in korea). As such we're complaining in the forums more loudly than before. Yes we're still having fun with the occasional match but... really that's just us cutting one more rug with an old friend before the cancer takes their ability to dance, then walk, and eventually,... we're forced to pull the plug.

[Figure 11]

I find truly obnoxious players to be a rarity, what annoys me more is the passive aggressive whining from certain players complaining about how a match is going, who offer no constructive advice or instruction.

"Why are you doing that, jeez" wah wah wah.

Often feel like deliberately suiciding to spite such a windbag.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Forum mods removing my posted picture of the toxic avenger makes me toxic! Grrr...

OK, I guess not. I'm not sure it warranted removal, but it's no real loss either. Just seems odd.

P.S. Never mind, I think I know why. I quoted a moving gif (from a previous post also removed) of Toxy doing something potentially seen as too graphic saying..."darn, beat me to it". It wouldn't be worth editing it out of my post too with just some random pic. I get it.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 12 July 2016 - 12:08 PM.

[Juodas Varnas]

MeiSooHaityu, on 12 July 2016 - 12:00 PM, said:

Forum mods removing my posted picture of the toxic avenger makes me toxic! Grrr...

OK, I guess not. I'm not sure it warranted removal, but it's no real loss either. Just seems odd.

What the hell do they have against Toxic Avenger?!
It was a great movie!

[Mystere]

Rhaythe, on 12 July 2016 - 10:47 AM, said:

*cough* 3PV...

MeiSooHaityu, on 12 July 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Ohhh yeah! Forgot about that one.

Well, if otherwise full-grown men did not act like whiny newborn crybabies during the whole affair maybe, just maybe, we would have some from of Information Warfare than the pathetically non-existent one we have now.

[jss78]

I haven't noticed any change, it's overall really good. I used to get many more toxic players when I played in lower tiers, maybe it's a tier thing.

BTW "it's the Internet, people are always toxic" is simply not true, and is something of a cop-out. This game is a case in point that most people have zero trouble being civil on the Internet. A-holes have trouble being civil on the Internet -- don't be one.