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[Khereg]

A couple thoughts:

The comment that "lowering your death rate" will have the most impact on your W/L stats is probably conflated. If you lose, you will almost certainly die (my experience has been there are very few cap/objective wins in QP/Group Queue), so you can't just decide to play differently to lower your chance of dying. What you're really doing is playing to improve your chances of winning, which implies solid team play among a group of relatively skilled teammates.

In fact, I'm reasonably sure that the most gaudy k/d and w/l ratios come from players who are both skilled and play group almost exclusively with other skilled teammates...

I say this part to rationalize my own performance, which is "meh" on the stats front, but I do derp around in QP a lot - let me have my egotistical illusions, please.

Also, the comment about the spread of performances being way too big and the indictment of the matchmaker as a result I think is related to the above. We know there are some highly skilled players in the game. If those players play a lot of QP, their stats probably aren't terribly gaudy, but the ones who focus on group queue and only play with their similarly skilled teammates can generate some pretty eye-popping stats.

That isn't a shortcoming of the matchmaker, though. If you let players play in groups (and I think that's a good thing), you're going to have situations that the matchmaker can't possibly compensate for. The only solution in the statistical analysis would be to only count QP drops, but as I understand it, the leaderboards are counting both QP and group queue, so you can't separate this variable out of the data right now.

Edited by Khereg, 14 July 2016 - 01:16 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

TIL... you need to have some wicked spreadsheet skills to be a classical musician.

[Telemachus -Salt Wife Salt Life-]

I love stats so thank you for the graph porn <3

Edited by Telemachus Rheade, 14 July 2016 - 01:26 PM.

[Revis Volek]

Telemachus Rheade, on 14 July 2016 - 01:26 PM, said:

I love stats so thank you for the graph porn <3

Graph pron w/ geometric patterns showing up in the datas....


I have died and gone to heaven.

dervishx5, on 14 July 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

Do they have stats for Faction Warfare?

Yes derv, they just started it a bit ago, Both personal Pilot stats and same for your Unit.

Edited by Revis Volek, 14 July 2016 - 01:51 PM.

[Xmith]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 July 2016 - 11:39 AM, said:

Biggest Problem I see with this:

Players will draw the wrong conclusion:

The Less I die, the better my WLr will be!

And go hide more, to "avoid dying". When the opposite is the case, the less on plays NOT TO DIE, but to kill, the better one's chance of surviving and winning is.

Good charts and all... but end of the day we know what it takes to win more than to lose, and have a positive KDr.... Balls and coordination. The majority of the playerbase will never have the former, nor attempt the latter. It's why Team Play skews one's stats so dramatically. Coordination and Aggression lead to upward trends in all stats.

Well, I always believe if you survive the match, chances are you will also win the match.

Some folks seem to not able to tell the difference between using cover and hiding in a lot of cases its seems.

Your doing it wrong if you don't use cover when ever possible.

[Bishop Steiner]

Xmith, on 14 July 2016 - 02:03 PM, said:

Well, I always believe if you survive the match, chances are you will also win the match.

Some folks seem to not able to tell the difference between using cover and hiding in a lot of cases its seems.

Your doing it wrong if you don't use cover when ever possible.

Thank you, captain obvious.

Using cover makes sense. Hiding and pissing yourself while the OpFor uses cover to advance on you and crush you, doesn't.

That's what I'm referring to

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 July 2016 - 02:07 PM.

[3xnihilo]

Your graph is wrong. It says I am above average in KDR and match score

[Mazzyplz]

taro - can you give me a relationship of kills to damage? (even though you can get the killshot on a mech that other players worked to strip of all armor...)
i know the leaderboard could be better when i can manage to make 3 most damage dealt with only 300 dmg



and the flipside also.
i can take lrms and dakka to inflate my damage.

Edited by Mazzyplz, 14 July 2016 - 02:30 PM.

[Tarogato]

Mazzyplz, on 14 July 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

taro - can you give me a relationship of kills to damage? (even though you can get the killshot on a mech that other players worked to strip of all armor...)

Negative. Damage stats aren't provided. I could make an estimation by removing the KDR and WLR factors from the matchscore averages, but the result would still be an estimation at best.

What you can do, however, is use this spreadsheet tool I have here: https://docs.google....#gid=1073418742

Go to the File menu ----> Make a copy... and it will give you your own copy to work on. Make a new tab/sheet by hitting the + icon at the bottom left. Paste your mechstats into this new empty sheet and give it a name. I prefer naming them according to the date I grabbed the stats from my profile. I've left three example sheets with stats on them that you can remove after taking a look. Once you've copied your stats, go to the Viewer sheet/tab, and in the obnoxious red text enter the name of the sheet you want to read the stats off of (the one you just created earlier). It will automatically format everything for you nicely, including some dmg/kill numbers.

Lemme know if you run into any problems, the whole thing isn't entirely ready for public release yet. xD

Edited by Tarogato, 14 July 2016 - 05:10 PM.

[Accused]

Well thanks for the stats! Interesting to look at for sure.

Looks like I'm at the tail end of the scrub nebula. Meaning if you're better than me, then you're probably a lot better than me. Which probably explains a few things.