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[-FLY]

fast, agile, famous in mechwarrior 3, my favorite mech, a perfect contender for ebon jaguar....when PGI will release it?

[Coralld]

I'm guessing when ever PGI decides to do a time line jump.

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

I hope never... i know i am alone when I say this...

But that mech is ugly as sin. The only mech worse then this cartoon mech... Is that other cartoon mech... I cant even remember the name of that thing...

[Masochistic Trashcan Virtuoso]

firefly ? or any of the post 3060 cartoon-trash ?

[Spike Brave]

Coralld, on 15 July 2016 - 07:25 AM, said:

I'm guessing when ever PGI decides to do a time line jump.

I think we're good here. The Bushwacker was in prototype at the start of the invasion and we have at least two that we're present at the Battle of Luihein.

[Koniving]

http://mwomercs.com/clock

"3053"
Or sooner.

[Jingseng]

I would much rather have:
Marauder II (and IIc)
Crusader
Goliath (just because cow mechs running around would be funnier than bushfappers)
Stinger/Wasp
Ostol/Ostroc
Elementals

basically a lot of stuff =p

Bushwhacker is literally the least battletech like mech i have ever seen, and not surprising: it was born of the cartoon series =p

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

Jingseng, on 17 July 2016 - 07:23 AM, said:

I would much rather have:
Marauder II (and IIc)
Crusader
Goliath (just because cow mechs running around would be funnier than bushfappers)
Stinger/Wasp
Ostol/Ostroc
Elementals

basically a lot of stuff =p

Bushwhacker is literally the least battletech like mech i have ever seen, and not surprising: it was born of the cartoon series =p

Oo oo!! Crusader, stinger, wasp (valkyrie) yesssss please!!!

Bushwacker... No thanks!!!

[Rogue Jedi]

we do not know, it is possible we could get it the end of this year or early next, then again we may not get it until 2020 or later, however it is one of the more popular Mechs and we are running low on timeline relevant Mechs, as someone else pointed out it is barely out of timeline so my guess is sometime in 2017

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Spike Brave, on 15 July 2016 - 04:49 PM, said:

I think we're good here. The Bushwacker was in prototype at the start of the invasion and we have at least two that we're present at the Battle of Luihein.

That is not quite right, tho.
The first prototypes were absolute failures, they started to buíld the "real" bushwacker only after the battle of tukayyid.

Edited by Toha Heavy Industries, 17 July 2016 - 11:54 AM.

[ice trey]

According to the lore, the very first existing variant of the Bushwhacker, though printed in TRO 3058, went into production in 3053. The alternate variants, of course, took a bit more time to come to market.

...but for as long as there is stuff from TRO 3050 that is still unpublished, I think it's a waste to start doing the time jump. Especially since ultra common stuff like the Hermes II, Clint, Javelin, and Charger aren't available yet, I feel it'd be a bit too early to graduate outside of it, yet.

[Spike Brave]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 17 July 2016 - 08:04 AM, said:

That is not quite right, tho.
The first prototypes were absolute failures, they started to buíld the "real" bushwacker only after the battle of tukayyid.

Yeah. I have two Battle of Tukayyid banners. That event has occurred in MWO. So prototypes without the EM interference should be available.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Spike Brave, on 17 July 2016 - 12:05 PM, said:

Yeah. I have two Battle of Tukayyid banners. That event has occurred in MWO. So prototypes without the EM interference should be available.

First, the timeline has been reset, twice (that's why you have two banners). The battle of Tukayyid in our current timeline is in the future.

Second, the bushwaker prototyes (which happend to be remarkable unusable) are not the bushwackers you are looking forward to have in MWO.

The bushwacker you do want in the game are those who have been redesigned with captured omni'mech schematics (a vulture if i recall correctly) which happens far after the battle of Tukayyid.

*add


Just checked on sarna, i was mostly right.
I am also seeing problems with some variants carrying LBX20 or plasma rifles.

I also want to point out that i do not have a problem with the bushwacker in general but i see problems when it comes to pushing the timeline past Tukayyid events.
If you push that far, there is a massive amount of content waiting. Including, but not only

-IS omni'mechs
-Mix tech
-buch of new weapon tech

Also, what do we fight for in FP if the Truce of Tukayyid is already in place?

*2nd add

I am not even sure if the bushwacker with omni'mech schematics is still a battle'mech or a first gen IS omni'mech.

Edited by Toha Heavy Industries, 17 July 2016 - 01:34 PM.

[S 0 L E N Y A]

Supposedly timeline advance will be announced at the end of the year- possibly at mech con.
When/if that happens I think the Bushy is one of the most likely first candidates for new mechs. After the MadcatMkII anyways.

However, IIRC Russ said something to effect that timeline advancement does not exactly mean tech advancement.

Only time will tell

[Spike Brave]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 17 July 2016 - 01:23 PM, said:

First, the timeline has been reset, twice (that's why you have two banners). The battle of Tukayyid in our current timeline is in the future.

Second, the bushwaker prototyes (which happend to be remarkable unusable) are not the bushwackers you are looking forward to have in MWO.

The bushwacker you do want in the game are those who have been redesigned with captured omni'mech schematics (a vulture if i recall correctly) which happens far after the battle of Tukayyid.

*add


Just checked on sarna, i was mostly right.
I am also seeing problems with some variants carrying LBX20 or plasma rifles.

I also want to point out that i do not have a problem with the bushwacker in general but i see problems when it comes to pushing the timeline past Tukayyid events.
If you push that far, there is a massive amount of content waiting. Including, but not only

-IS omni'mechs
-Mix tech
-buch of new weapon tech

Also, what do we fight for in FP if the Truce of Tukayyid is already in place?

*2nd add

I am not even sure if the bushwacker with omni'mech schematics is still a battle'mech or a first gen IS omni'mech.

I can answer several of your questions. First off why are we still fighting in FP? Russ has stated he wants the players to control the map not lore so things are really gonna get sticky for BT lore. Secondly the Bushwacker in TRO 3058 is based off the Vulture, or Maddog, clan omni. FedCom researchers recieved blue prints from Twycross after forces lead by Kai Allard-Liao retook the planet in a battle in September of 3050. They also recieved example tech from the Draconis Combine after the Battle of Wolcott in October of the same year as part of the tech exchange between those two realms in support of fighting the clans. The clock says it's July 3051 https://mwomercs.com/clock. Working prototypes should be stomping around as the first production run was completed and delivered to the Clan front by 3053.

As for IS omnis, that means the raptor is about six months away. Also they first run Bushwhackers are Battlemechs, not omnis.

Mixed tech is currently not going to be a thing. They might change thier minds, but currently that's the offical statement.

Finally we already have at least one mech that is in advance of the clock. The upcoming Night Gyr didn't begin production until 3052. I think we will see mechs in game that may not be in the BattleTech timeline as long as they are popular enough and don't have any tech that's not in the game currently.

I'd also like to add, I'm not a fan of this Battlemech. It's profile is gonna make it really easy to hit from the side and it's loadout isn't anything great. I'm sure with quirk it'll be fine.

Edit: Linebacker is a 3052 mech as well.

Edited by Spike Brave, 17 July 2016 - 06:27 PM.

[Gibson Ibanez]

I had wondered if they could set up some kind of Elemental strike. Have it work along the lines of an air/artillery strike, where the "toads" latch onto a mech for a limited amount of time and damage then hop away.

[Jingseng]

Forgot about Axman and Hatchetman... no melee though =/

[Unendingmenace]

Bushwacker would be rad!

+1

[Aerei]

Bushwacker would be nice, but there's no guarantee it'll be good with the current trend of IS mech quirks.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Spike Brave, on 17 July 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

I can answer several of your questions. First off why are we still fighting in FP? Russ has stated he wants the players to control the map not lore so things are really gonna get sticky for BT lore. Secondly the Bushwacker in TRO 3058 is based off the Vulture, or Maddog, clan omni. FedCom researchers recieved blue prints from Twycross after forces lead by Kai Allard-Liao retook the planet in a battle in September of 3050. They also recieved example tech from the Draconis Combine after the Battle of Wolcott in October of the same year as part of the tech exchange between those two realms in support of fighting the clans. The clock says it's July 3051 https://mwomercs.com/clock. Working prototypes should be stomping around as the first production run was completed and delivered to the Clan front by 3053.

As for IS omnis, that means the raptor is about six months away. Also they first run Bushwhackers are Battlemechs, not omnis.

Mixed tech is currently not going to be a thing. They might change thier minds, but currently that's the offical statement.

Finally we already have at least one mech that is in advance of the clock. The upcoming Night Gyr didn't begin production until 3052. I think we will see mechs in game that may not be in the BattleTech timeline as long as they are popular enough and don't have any tech that's not in the game currently.

I'd also like to add, I'm not a fan of this Battlemech. It's profile is gonna make it really easy to hit from the side and it's loadout isn't anything great. I'm sure with quirk it'll be fine.

Edit: Linebacker is a 3052 mech as well.

Thanks, talking about detailed here.
We got other of timeline mechs (X-5 for example is a prototype and the 3F which is based on it isn't from our current timeline as well)

When you said the first run Bushwackers are battle'mechs did you meant those with engine problems or those build after vulture schematics?

I think it's funny to think that the playerbase shouldn't dictate the lore but the map. Yet, they are doing the very same thing by throwing timeline and lore out of order when it comes to new mechs.
I get that PGI needs to add sellingpoints to their shop but knocking FP over the border of Tukayyid is a bit too much considering it was supposed to be a major pilar of the game.

First Wave of invasion is over, Truce of Tukayyid is in place yet jade falcon is knocking at davions border, timeline doesn't mean a thing, mechs without tech, tech without mechs, but hey...

..would you like to buy a mechpack?

Edited by Toha Heavy Industries, 19 July 2016 - 01:10 AM.