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#1 Malachy Karrde

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 04:42 AM

4x uac 10 ghost heat had not been applied and is now fixed. That is more of a nerf to Kodiak 3 (and one of my dire wolves) than anything else they did. As to the kodiak nerfs, waaaaaaa! Little teddy bears are now as mobile as all other assaults. Can't take it? Then go get a viper.

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 04:56 AM

View PostMalachy Karrde, on 16 July 2016 - 04:42 AM, said:

4x uac 10 ghost heat had not been applied and is now fixed. That is more of a nerf to Kodiak 3 (and one of my dire wolves) than anything else they did. As to the kodiak nerfs, waaaaaaa! Little teddy bears are now as mobile as all other assaults. Can't take it? Then go get a viper.

People are not complaining about the KDK-3 - they are complaining that all the other KDKs got nerfed as collateral damage in typical PGI blanket nerfing fashion.

We all knew the KDK-3 would get dialled back. It's an obvious outlier and its nerfs are a welcome. It will still pretty much remain the best assault, but the other KDKs are not standouts like the 3 is and are fine where they are. The SB in particular was in a great spot being a more nimble, yet more fragile AS7 alternative. I've got many heroes in my stable, and the SB was one of the last few I still enjoyed, but now it's getting the nerf treatment like just about all my other heroes and I'm getting oh so tired of it.

#3 Tordin

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 05:04 AM

Im mixed regarding the bears. Dont have any, just fought them. Sure they deserved some mobility nerf, but structure nerfs, nah. Unless in another 100t you shouldnt stare contest a friggin Kodiak! You wont get any honey!

#4 Hit the Deck

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 05:07 AM

The Balance Overlord gives and takes (he also spots bugs and fixes them I guess).

#5 El Bandito

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 05:09 AM

I'm guessing that suddenly a lot of players' inflated WLRs and KDRs will go down after this UAC10 change, on top of Kodiak-3 change.

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 07:06 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 July 2016 - 05:09 AM, said:

I'm guessing that suddenly a lot of players' inflated WLRs and KDRs will go down after this UAC10 change, on top of Kodiak-3 change.

I'm guessing they will change builds to 4 gauss or 2 gauss 2 cerppc builds

#7 El Bandito

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 07:13 AM

View PostBulletsponge0, on 16 July 2016 - 07:06 AM, said:

I'm guessing they will change builds to 4 gauss or 2 gauss 2 cerppc builds


That's just fine. No more 80 damage in 0.5 second.

#8 Malachy Karrde

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 07:51 AM

I played with my 4 uac 10 6 er small laser dire wolf. You can still put out the same damage by putting 2 cannon in each fire group and staggering them. It actually works much better than fire linking them. Puts out half the heat.

#9 Cy Mitchell

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:00 AM

The Tier 0s already favor the 2 Gauss, 2 CERPPC. Some others will switch to 2 x UAC10 2 x UAC5 that haven't already. Only trying to Alpha strike 4 xUAC10 will be nerfed.

#10 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:15 AM

View PostBulletsponge0, on 16 July 2016 - 07:06 AM, said:

I'm guessing they will change builds to 4 gauss or 2 gauss 2 cerppc builds

only those with basic aiming skills, which means 99% of pilots wont. PPCs are hard to aim, dontchaknow? And that Gauss charge makes em unusable with my steer wheel!!!!

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:


That's just fine. No more 80 damage in 0.5 second.

Nope just pinpoint, across half the map 50 pt holes to one location again. Because that was such a fun Meta the LAST time we went through it (ya know, the reason Paul nuked the DWF into the ground?)

Yay! Back to click a pixel ezmode maiming again!

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 July 2016 - 08:17 AM.


#11 El Bandito

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:30 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 July 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

only those with basic aiming skills, which means 99% of pilots wont. PPCs are hard to aim, dontchaknow? And that Gauss charge makes em unusable with my steer wheel!!!!


Nope just pinpoint, across half the map 50 pt holes to one location again. Because that was such a fun Meta the LAST time we went through it (ya know, the reason Paul nuked the DWF into the ground?)

Yay! Back to click a pixel ezmode maiming again!


And if 99% of the pilots wont switch to that, gauss/cerppc Kodiak wont be the meta in solo-q. Which is fine with me.

#12 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:30 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 July 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

only those with basic aiming skills, which means 99% of pilots wont. PPCs are hard to aim, dontchaknow? And that Gauss charge makes em unusable with my steer wheel!!!!



PPCs aren't hard to aim... they just get stuck on invisible rocks and stuff...

#13 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:32 AM

Dual PPC, Dual Gauss will probably be non-alpha after GH2.0

Although, I guess I'm the only one prophesizing that one.

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:40 AM

View PostNarcissistic Martyr, on 16 July 2016 - 08:30 AM, said:


PPCs aren't hard to aim... they just get stuck on invisible rocks and stuff...

Most people "PPCs too slow, can't hit past 400 meters, waaaah!".

#15 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:42 AM

I am also going to laugh when people notice the competition build of the game is not experiencing patch changes, and they complain about how they are abusing/circumventing GH2.0 after watching twitch streams :-)

#16 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:45 AM

I think the most precious part is all the whining about the whining. Posted Image

#17 Felbombling

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 09:10 AM

As a Kodiak owner, I'm perfectly fine with the nerfs. I was amazed it came out of the box buffed up on Hot-Pockets to begin with.

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 09:42 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:


That's just fine. No more 80 damage in 0.5 second.


But there is. My kdk3 uses 2x uac20. 80 damage in half a second and 4x erml to follow that..

#19 Malachy Karrde

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 10:00 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:


That's just fine. No more 80 damage in 0.5 second.
you can still do that with quad uac 10 even after the fix. Or try the build on my dire wolf s some guy whined about last night when I one shot him center torso: uac 20, lbx 20, 3 srm 6, 4 er small laser. You can alpha that without any ghost heat issues and double tap the uac to boot. That's 116 damage in one shot. Some of it is spread but it's pretty accurate out to 300 meters or so.

#20 xVLFBERHxT

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 10:07 AM

prosperity park, who is the first (left) person on your signature?

i think i know the rest Posted Image

Edited by TrapJaw80, 16 July 2016 - 10:08 AM.






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