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[Hit the Deck]

This is how much I've got after 5-6 days playing:



With only around 12-15 matches per day. Granted, I'm currently leveling my Warhammers and they are good 'Mechs so it may help my performance somewhat. But I remember when I was in Tier 2 it took a loooong time to move the bar just 1 mm (that's a little less than 3/64 inches for you Americans). Maybe I'm getting better matches in T1? If the trend continues, I'd be in Tier 0 in less than 2 months! By comparison, I started at around 1/3 of T2 when the tiers made public and it took me more than half a year (>6 months) to get to Tier 1!!!

What's your experience?

[Ghogiel]

T4 took me 75 matches to clear on an alt.
T3 took 150. (I couldn't maintain the 50 KDR and 95% win rate :<)

[DarthHias]

Yes I feel the same. The last bit of Tier2 was really slow, and since I reached 1 it feels a lot faster. Could also be me leveling more mechs in QP and doing less FP? Dunno

[White Bear 84]

Hit the Deck, on 10 June 2016 - 01:29 AM, said:

This is how much I've got after 5-6 days playing:

Welcome to club potato!

[Hit the Deck]

DarthHias, on 10 June 2016 - 01:37 AM, said:

Yes I feel the same. The last bit of Tier2 was really slow, and since I reached 1 it feels a lot faster. Could also be me leveling more mechs in QP and doing less FP? Dunno

Yeah, that pretty much mirrors my own experience.

Or maybe, they purposefully made T1 bar "shorter" because it doesn't really serve a purpose? Regarding their purpose, I'm still not sure if the MM uses your Tier level or your hidden and exact "PSR score" to establish a match. In the latter's case, how much you have filled the bar (your exact PSR score) does serve a purpose.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 10 June 2016 - 01:43 AM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

And my T2 bar is filling faster than my T3 bar did... though I am doing better consistently now while playing less.

[Alistair Winter]

Same experience, but if I'm trying to apply my critical, scientific mindset I would say:

"A watched pot never boils."

It's probably a bias because we were really watching the bar carefully when approaching Tier 1 (I was counting the pixels at one point) and then we just ignored it after we reached Tier 1. This seems a much easier and more logical explanation than anything else I can think of.

I was grinding my deadliest mechs hard to get to Tier 1 (trying to escape the underhive, you see) and now that I'm just having fun in my Dual AC2 Huginns and other joke builds, I'm still climbing to the top, almost as fast. XP bar indeed.

[Kalleballe]

Probably a lot of T1-3 having their tier reset due to inactivity. I was matched against better players entering T3 5monts ago than now in T2.

[Hit the Deck]

Alistair Winter, on 10 June 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

It's probably a bias because we were really watching the bar carefully when approaching Tier 1

That's also in my mind but I didn't write about it in OP because I'm not sure about it. One thing that I don't know is, how "long" the T1 bar compared to the T2 bar is. It should be longer (bar length: T5<T4<T3<T2(<T1?)) but then again, what purpose does the T1 bar serve?

[Alistair Winter]

Hit the Deck, on 10 June 2016 - 02:09 AM, said:

That's also in my mind but I didn't write about it in OP because I'm not sure about it. One thing that I don't know is, how "long" the T1 bar compared to the T2 bar is. It should be longer (bar length: T5<T4<T3<T2(<T1?)) but then again, what purpose does the T1 bar serve?

Theoretically, PGI could introduce Tier 6 and then current Tier 1 Max players would be moved down to Tier 2 Max. Mid Tier 2 would be moved down to Mid Tier 3. But they wouldn't do this unless the population was growing, I reckon. And I don't reckon the population is growing.

[Ryllen Kriel]

Dakota1000, on 10 June 2016 - 01:49 AM, said:

And my T2 bar is filling faster than my T3 bar did... though I am doing better consistently now while playing less.

Level up at least three Locusts variants, that will stabilize the experience bar for your tier!

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Ryllen Kriel, on 10 June 2016 - 02:14 AM, said:

Level up at least three Locusts variants, that will stabilize the experience bar for your tier!

I did...

But then again my locust 1E is one of my favorite light mechs.

[Wintersdark]

Heh I play only around 10 matches a week at most, so mine's really slow. Mind you, while I tend to rank up in most matches, I'm not making a dedicated effort either so many are just normal gains. Waiting for the rescale to shuffle the deck then I'll have some fun.

[DarthHias]

Funny thing is, one of my best mechs IS the Locust 1E. Locusts share the most spare XP in the Light class with my Adders.
(Yes 700k leftover on both Chassis. Pgi plz gimme something to do with it? Special *Meepmeep* Roadrunner Warhorn for having 2mio spare XP on lights? )

Sometimes I take the time on a Locust kill to write *insert Roadrunner meepmeep Warhorn* but it isn´t the same

[Torric]

Indeed Locusts are not as bad as their reputation. Unless you're talking about the missile variant, that is.

In fact, survivability in my Locust 1V seems to be better than in most assault mechs i own. Speed, nimbleness and a small profile (and a shitton of durability quirks) let you get to the end of match screen alive in the majority of games that your team wins, which in turn boosts matchscore, which then boosts PSR gains. Granted, dmg potential isn't that great with your single energy hardpoint.

That, and you tend to lose all sense of proper positioning because your speed makes up for most of your errors, whereas in a slower heavy or assault, it's certain death.

I played the LCT-1V almost exclusively while filling up the T3 xp bar, and it is my most piloted mech in T2 as well. Progress is steady, but noticeably slower than with mechs that can actually get you more than 900 dmg.

Edited by Torric, 10 June 2016 - 03:46 AM.

[DarthHias]

Well, the 1E really is a little dps machine. And that sweet moment when a cored Assault mech retreats on the brink of overheating and sees you coming.. and nothing he can do to evade doom ^^

But the Ace of Spades keeps evading me:

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Wintersdark, on 10 June 2016 - 03:19 AM, said:

Heh I play only around 10 matches a week at most, so mine's really slow. Mind you, while I tend to rank up in most matches, I'm not making a dedicated effort either so many are just normal gains. Waiting for the rescale to shuffle the deck then I'll have some fun.

You play like I do now a days.

When I was in T3 I played a lot more, maybe 10 matches a day, double that on the weekends, now getting in 10 matches a week is rare outside of big events or a new mech coming out that I was interested in. I come back in every once in awhile, play an old favorite, end up top score and call it a day.

DarthHias, on 10 June 2016 - 03:28 AM, said:

Funny thing is, one of my best mechs IS the Locust 1E. Locusts share the most spare XP in the Light class with my Adders.
(Yes 700k leftover on both Chassis. Pgi plz gimme something to do with it? Special *Meepmeep* Roadrunner Warhorn for having 2mio spare XP on lights? )

Sometimes I take the time on a Locust kill to write *insert Roadrunner meepmeep Warhorn* but it isn´t the same

That's a lot of Locust, I tend to be an assault pilot for the most part, but when I get bored of that and want to have a lot of fun with positioning, repositioning, dodging, flanking, and all that fun stuff that being small and fast gets you I like using my Locust for loads of speed, my Adder for being a small package holding great things (I run UAC20+3ERsmalls almost always), and my Arctic Cheetah for when I want to play Tony Hawk pro-skater and do sick mid air 360s that my Executioner could only dream of.

[meteorol]

Half of t1 bar went by faster than the last 5mm of t2. It's like... when my bar was close to t1, it took like 15 "tier up" matches to move the bar 1 pixel. At the beginning of T1 pretty much every "tier up" match made a visible differnce.

It's almost like they want to prevent people of dropping out of T1, ever. XP bar gonna XP.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Minor consideration, but with more reps, more experience, learning more of the nuances of the game, you might have actually gotten a bit better at the game, and as having fun often also contributes to success (better mood and energy can improve performance) your anecdotal evidence be true for good reasons.

I would offer up that its no more exciting at tier 0 anyway, so just play the game to enjoy it, and the speed at which your bar fills will likely go up anyway.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Lukoi Banacek, on 10 June 2016 - 03:59 AM, said:

Minor consideration, but with more reps, more experience, learning more of the nuances of the game, you might have actually gotten a bit better at the game, and as having fun often also contributes to success (better mood and energy can improve performance) your anecdotal evidence be true for good reasons.

I would offer up that its no more exciting at tier 0 anyway, so just play the game to enjoy it, and the speed at which your bar fills will likely go up anyway.

At Tier 1, you are essentially supposed to be the big fish of the pond, no one is in a tier above you and you can be matched with people 2 tiers below you. So if you are in Tier 1 odds are higher than you are the best player in the match in terms of average performance than if you are in tier 3 where you can be right in the middle, top, or bottom. As long as you are in T1 and carrying you go up and never down.