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[Nightwulf26]

Just looking for good advice for a bare bones pc kit or ideas. I would like something that can run MWO at its max settings and still be able to record the game. i would kind of like to try my hand at making some MWO music videos. thanks in advance. <s>

[xWiredx]

A Skylake i7 and GTX 1060 or better with 16GB of DDR4-3200 or faster. Either a WD Black 64MB cache 7200RPM HDD or Samsung 850 Evo SSD for storage.

Before anybody says anything otherwise, yes, the i7 is required for max settings and needs to be overclocked or you -will- dip below 60fps at 1080p with particles, environment, and shadows set to 'very high' (which is the max).

[Nightwulf26]

xWiredx, on 26 November 2016 - 08:47 PM, said:

A Skylake i7 and GTX 1060 or better with 16GB of DDR4-3200 or faster. Either a WD Black 64MB cache 7200RPM HDD or Samsung 850 Evo SSD for storage.

Before anybody says anything otherwise, yes, the i7 is required for max settings and needs to be overclocked or you -will- dip below 60fps at 1080p with particles, environment, and shadows set to 'very high' (which is the max).

thanks for the reply i will look in to this and see if i can afford it. I'm working with $500.00 but i might be able to go a little higher. i can always buy a bit at a time. <S>

[xWiredx]

With $500 you can buy a potato. You aren't getting anywhere near max settings with that budget unfortunately. Maybe medium settings, but that's about the best you can hope for.

[Napoleon_Blownapart]

what is your comp now? can you build the new pc in that case? AMDs next cpus dont come out till Feb i think but AMD tends to be less expensive. but right now AMD boards are DDR3 not DDR4 and i think PCIE2 and not 3 although the vid cards are all PCIE3.

[Dragoon20005]

Nightwulf26, on 27 November 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:

thanks for the reply i will look in to this and see if i can afford it. I'm working with $500.00 but i might be able to go a little higher. i can always buy a bit at a time. <S>

what is your existing PC specs?

If the HDD and optical drives are usable.

you can omit getting a HDD and get a SSD instead with the new build.

xWiredx, on 27 November 2016 - 06:34 PM, said:

With $500 you can buy a potato. You aren't getting anywhere near max settings with that budget unfortunately. Maybe medium settings, but that's about the best you can hope for.

I beg to differ

500 can get a decent rig with i3 core and GTX1050Ti

in fact even games like Battlefield 1 multiplayer is still decent with this rig

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($41.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($33.99 @ B&H)
Total: $452.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[xWiredx]

Dragoon20005, on 28 November 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:

what is your existing PC specs?

If the HDD and optical drives are usable.

you can omit getting a HDD and get a SSD instead with the new build.





I beg to differ

500 can get a decent rig with i3 core and GTX1050Ti

in fact even games like Battlefield 1 multiplayer is still decent with this rig

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($41.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($33.99 @ B&H)
Total: $452.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 20:10 EST-0500

MWO is so CPU-bound that you -definitely- aren't maxing out particles, environment, and shadows settings with a Skylake i3-based system and getting a smooth 60fps. In other words, you can beg to differ all you want, but I've done enough testing around here to know what is what.

[Dragoon20005]

xWiredx, on 28 November 2016 - 05:30 PM, said:

MWO is so CPU-bound that you -definitely- aren't maxing out particles, environment, and shadows settings with a Skylake i3-based system and getting a smooth 60fps. In other words, you can beg to differ all you want, but I've done enough testing around here to know what is what.

we should be blaming PGI for their ****** implementation of the Cryengine game engine

I build this PC for my customers and they can play Crysis 3, BF1 and GTA5 with 60 fps at high details.

of course nobody should be maxing out details, even med to high is doable and the fps will be above 60 fps

[xWiredx]

Dragoon20005, on 28 November 2016 - 05:43 PM, said:

we should be blaming PGI for their ****** implementation of the Cryengine game engine

I build this PC for my customers and they can play Crysis 3, BF1 and GTA5 with 60 fps at high details.

of course nobody should be maxing out details, even med to high is doable and the fps will be above 60 fps

Yes, but OP specifically asked for MWO with maxed-out settings.

There is no debating that most games are not nearly as ridiculously CPU-bound. In fact, the "entry level" VR system recommended right now is a Skylake i5 6400 and GTX 1060, with everything higher than those being considered icing on the cake for a better experience. I even just built my GFs PC with a 6400 and a GTX 1050 Ti since the 1050 and 1050 Ti handle most games at medium-high settings with a smooth 60+ fps so on a budget most games can still be played with decent eye candy. MWO specifically, however, requires a much stronger CPU.

[Dragoon20005]

xWiredx, on 28 November 2016 - 07:59 PM, said:

Yes, but OP specifically asked for MWO with maxed-out settings.

There is no debating that most games are not nearly as ridiculously CPU-bound. In fact, the "entry level" VR system recommended right now is a Skylake i5 6400 and GTX 1060, with everything higher than those being considered icing on the cake for a better experience. I even just built my GFs PC with a 6400 and a GTX 1050 Ti since the 1050 and 1050 Ti handle most games at medium-high settings with a smooth 60+ fps so on a budget most games can still be played with decent eye candy. MWO specifically, however, requires a much stronger CPU.

the fact is that my QX6800 and a GTX950 gets me 30+ fps at 1080P med on Crysis 3

in MWO piece of sh** i get only 20+ fps or less with the same settings

[dr lao]

I would not go under a gtx 1060 there 60% faster at then a gtx 1050 low power consumption that with a I3 cpu you could play fallout 4, BF 1, gears of war 2 with win 10 all so with a 400 power supply your set

Edited by dr lao, 30 November 2016 - 05:08 PM.

[Goose]

Dragoon20005, on 28 November 2016 - 08:34 PM, said:

the fact is that my QX6800 and a GTX950 gets me 30+ fps at 1080P med on Crysis 3

in MWO piece of sh** i get only 20+ fps or less with the same settings

Crysis has a LoS of ~500m; MWO has a LoS of about eight clicks: Your argument is invade ...

[Smokeyjedi]

A year ago it took An Fx8350 5.2ghz to hold 60fps with the same setting as wireds 8 core intel @ 4.2 rofl

[xWiredx]

Smokeyjedi, on 02 December 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

A year ago it took An Fx8350 5.2ghz to hold 60fps with the same setting as wireds 8 core intel @ 4.2 rofl

6-core, sir. 6-core. There was some other guy that did have the 8-core, though, and he wasn't holding above the 60fps line with everything at very high until he managed to get it to 4.6GhZ (a speed where an AMD equivalent would require a constant supply of dry ice).

I hear Zen is going to be very nice, though.