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[The6thMessenger]

Aside from daily challenges, i think it would be nice to add active premium time too, to prompt C-Bill grinding, after all it can't be paused so they are "forced" to play, to not waste it. Of course, probably it's not going to be very long or very frequent, but PT is something that at least i would have a much bigger incentive to play everyday, and perhaps others too.

Anyways i know that currently there is this 3 Day PT on Huntsman Pilot Challenge, but what about those who aren't piloting it?

Edited by The6thMessenger, 20 October 2016 - 05:42 AM.

[Mawai]

This is why I have so much banked premium time ... I don't play enough to make it worthwhile using it up

[El Bandito]

The6thMessenger, on 20 October 2016 - 05:41 AM, said:

Aside from daily challenges, i think it would be nice to add active premium time too, to prompt C-Bill grinding, after all it can't be paused so they are "forced" to play, to not waste it. Of course, probably it's not going to be very long or very frequent, but PT is something that at least i would have a much bigger incentive to play everyday, and perhaps others too.

Anyways i know that currently there is this 3 Day PT on Huntsman Pilot Challenge, but what about those who aren't piloting it?

As someone who had a lot of PT, it really doesn't encourage one to play too much if he/she is already jaded from the game. Like me. Played two matches to get the daily event requirements, and afterwards I don't wanna play MWO for the day. All the while my PT from the gifted [Night Gyr] pack is ticking down.

I still have 3 Rifleman + 3 Loyalty mechs to skill up, but nah...

Edited by draiocht, 21 October 2016 - 06:02 AM.
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[Bandilly]

Most events usually just have day or two PT. Note everyone can get PT from this event from the grab bags, we don't know how common it is going to be yet.

[TLBFestus]

I'm considering finally using my remaining PT just to get Stock mech options to play with my buddies.

At this point though, my enthusiasm for the game is so low that I can't justify activating a months PT for a couple of hours of game time, so it sits and rots.

I wish they'd be innovative and start selling PT by the "active" hour. minutes don't count...play 5 minutes you burn an hour.

And for the umpteenth time, I will drag it out. Can't see why it wouldn't work and make them more money too:

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Yeah, no way that they would sell premium time in it's current form as an "only active when online" function. As someone pointed out that is 168 hours of game time for a week, and about 700 hours per month. Buy one month and you've got 700 hours to burn.

If they did that they would have to step up "Mechs for Sale" production to ludicrous levels (This..is ...a ....joke)!


Now.....if they wanted to offer different Premium time Options it could look like this;
Regular Premium time as it currently exists, continual run down to zero in blocks of 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, or 1 year
"Online Only" Active Premium time which only runs when logged in. Naturally it would sell for the same price per block, but the hours you get would be drastically REDUCED.

Just for arguments sake, assume that the average player plays 2 hours a night, every night. That's 14 hours a week. On average there are 4.2 weeks in a month, which is 58.8 hours a month, or 705.6 hours a year.

Basing this on 25000 MC, for $100 (best deal) , meaning 250 MC per DOLLAR and then round everything to make it easy and they could sell "Online" Premium time for;

2 hours for 250 MC or $1 (equivalent to 1 day non-stop)

15 hours for 1850 MC or $7.50 (equivalent to 7 days non-stop)

60 hours for 7500 MC or $30 (equivalent to 1 month non-stop)

180 hours for 22,500 MC or $90 (equivalent to 3 months non-stop)

750 hours for 40,000 MC or $175 (equivalent to 1 year non-stop)

For the math geeks in the crowd, these are ROUGH figures based on 125 MC per Hour, based on 2 hours per day playing time, and then tweaked a little for "volume discount" effects.

I'm sure that these numbers would need some serious adjustment by someone with more math skills than I , but at least it puts things into some perspective and acts as a jumping off point for discussion.

Obviously I don't know if 2 hours per day is a good average or not, for some it will be too little and others too much, but therein lies the benefit of offering the option to buy it in the current "always active" blocks if you are a hardcore, live in your moms basement, wife divorces you and you don't even notice it kinda guy.

Assuming the numbers are tweaked correctly and they would need some good statistics, which I'm sure PGI has, to tweak them appropriately, they would not lose any money.

People would have MORE options, and PGI would likely have more income.

Can someone explain to me what is wrong with this idea? Looks like a win-win no brainer to me.

Would anyone be interested in PT IF they sold it like this? Speak up.

Edited by TLBFestus, 20 October 2016 - 08:29 AM.

[Steve Pryde]

At the moment I'm playing more than just for the event because I want to play new Terra Therma which is a awesome map. But many guys don't vote for it and I hate that. >.<

[TLBFestus]

Only played the "new" TT about 3x and I'm not convinced about it yet.

So far have found a lot of little "jags" that get your mech stuck, and it's probably the darkest map they've made. So far in my limited play it seems both teams seem to instinctively migrate towards the most visible structure on the map which is the ancestor of the old caldera.

[Deathlike]

The 3-day Premium Time in this current event is given to you at the end of the event and the time starts immediately after you login (it gets injected once you log in).

[The6thMessenger]

Deathlike, on 20 October 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

The 3-day Premium Time in this current event is given to you at the end of the event and the time starts immediately after you login (it gets injected once you log in).

I don't see why that's relevant.

[Deathlike]

The6thMessenger, on 20 October 2016 - 02:21 PM, said:

I don't see why that's relevant.

I dunno. It's already gated by mechpack, but I'm talking about how it's applied (due to the requirements) is insane (at least in the past).

I'm not a fan of how premium time is applied by events honestly.

Premium Time hasn't really changed (they don't like changing the formula) outside of them having stopped giving away free banked Premium Time.

The 30-day blocks also annoy me (I have no incentive to use them in such large chunks either).

Edited by Deathlike, 20 October 2016 - 02:44 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

Deathlike, on 20 October 2016 - 02:42 PM, said:

I dunno. It's already gated by mechpack, but I'm talking about how it's applied (due to the requirements) is insane (at least in the past).

I'm not a fan of how premium time is applied by events honestly.

Premium Time hasn't really changed (they don't like changing the formula) outside of them having stopped giving away free banked Premium Time.

The 30-day blocks also annoy me (I have no incentive to use them in such large chunks either).

Deathlike, on 20 October 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

at the end of the event

You don't know the relevance, yet you included it anyways.

[Deathlike]

The6thMessenger, on 21 October 2016 - 03:57 PM, said:

You don't know the relevance, yet you included it anyways.

You could've just bolded the important part of your question.

The6thMessenger, on 20 October 2016 - 05:41 AM, said:

Anyways i know that currently there is this 3 Day PT on Huntsman Pilot Challenge, but what about those who aren't piloting it?

All those people get to do is kill pack owners. No premium is given to them (which is likely to be a larger portion of people that don't own it).

[The6thMessenger]

Deathlike, on 21 October 2016 - 04:48 PM, said:

You could've just bolded the important part of your question.

What question?

Deathlike, on 21 October 2016 - 04:48 PM, said:

All those people get to do is kill pack owners. No premium is given to them (which is likely to be a larger portion of people that don't own it).

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Achieve the following cumulative goals while piloting any Huntsman variant(s):
Achieve a cumulative Match Score of 200 per day in any combination of Huntsman variants
Achieve 1 Kill or 1 Kill Most Damage Dealt per day against any 'Mech while piloting any Huntsman variant
For each Huntsman Pilot Challenge condition achieved you will earn 1 Point. Accumulate Points throughout the Event to earn Rewards!

Lol no, there is that cumulative 200 match score to get scores too. With 14 days, don't tell me one can't get 4 points by playing several matches.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 21 October 2016 - 05:04 PM.

[Deathlike]

The6thMessenger, on 21 October 2016 - 04:57 PM, said:

Lol no, there is that cumulative 200 match score to get scores too. With 14 days, don't tell me one can't get 4 points by playing several matches.

I'm not sure if you're aware... but for that goal... you have to own a Huntsman for that.

That whole bracket is specifically for those that own one.

From The Tourney Page said:

Achieve a cumulative Match Score of 200 in the Huntsman chassis

Achieve 1 Kill or 1 KMDD against any Mech in the Huntsman chassis

Edited by Deathlike, 21 October 2016 - 05:09 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

Deathlike, on 21 October 2016 - 05:07 PM, said:

I'm not sure if you're aware... but for that goal... you have to own a Huntsman for that.

That whole bracket is specifically for those that own one.

The6thMessenger, on 20 October 2016 - 05:41 AM, said:

Anyways i know that currently there is this 3 Day PT on Huntsman Pilot Challenge, but what about those who aren't piloting it?

Why aren't you getting this? Of course they're supposed to own it as they pilot it, how can one get a Huntsman without paying for it, when MC or CBills is not an option right now?

That comment right there, i acknowledge that "there's already Premium Time awarded within the event".

Edited by The6thMessenger, 21 October 2016 - 05:20 PM.

[Deathlike]

The6thMessenger, on 21 October 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

Why aren't you getting this? Of course they're supposed to own it as they pilot it, how can one get a Huntsman without paying for it, when MC or CBills is not an option right now?

That comment right there, i acknowledge that "there's already Premium Time awarded within the event".

The answer is obvious... it's already in the lists. It's "everything else".

Is looking over the event page Lostech?

[The6thMessenger]

Deathlike, on 21 October 2016 - 05:25 PM, said:

The answer is obvious... it's already in the lists. It's "everything else".

Is looking over the event page Lostech?

It's a rhetorical question, to make a point. I assumed that people will argue that there's already awarded PT in the Event, but i was making the point that it's just for huntsman owners, should they ever argue that.

This Idea of mine, that PT is for everyone, and to coerce them into playing by awarding active Premium Time, if they don't want to waste it.

Why are you not getting this? Did you not read the entirety of the post to not get the context? There's 5 other posters in the thread, they got it, why didn't you?

[Deathlike]

The6thMessenger, on 21 October 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

It's a rhetorical question, to make a point. I assumed that people will argue that there's already awarded PT in the Event, but i was making the point that it's just for huntsman owners, should they ever argue that.

That was never in question.

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This Idea of mine, that PT is for everyone, and to coerce them into playing by awarding active Premium Time, if they don't want to waste it.

PGI is stingy on this and it has been the case for previous events. It's documented, not that anyone cares.

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Why are you not getting this? Did you not read the entirety of the post to not get the context? There's 5 other posters in the thread, they got it, why didn't you?

I'm too tired to care.

I'd rather you had written this is a more obvious manner.

Premium time does not interest me at all. I have tons of it, and not motivated enough to use it due to how it works and how much time I've accumulated.

The reason why they don't offer much is that they want you to buy more premium time or a mechpack that would provide that.

It doesn't even matter as your thread reads more like "what are the rewards other than premium time" instead of "why isn't premium time offered more in events w/o requiring a mechpack?"

Edited by Deathlike, 21 October 2016 - 05:47 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

Deathlike, on 21 October 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'd rather you had written this is a more obvious manner.

Oh please, they got it, you didn't.

Deathlike, on 21 October 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'm too tired to care.

Yet 6 replies.

Deathlike, on 21 October 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

It doesn't even matter as your thread reads more like "what are the rewards other than premium time" instead of "why isn't premium time offered more in events w/o requiring a mechpack?"

You didn't even read it at all.

[Deathlike]

The6thMessenger, on 21 October 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:

You didn't even read it at all.

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The6thMessenger, on 20 October 2016 - 05:41 AM, said:

Aside from daily challenges, i think it would be nice to add active premium time too, to prompt C-Bill grinding, after all it can't be paused so they are "forced" to play, to not waste it.

You're saying you want the events to provide active free premium time while this is going on? Sure and they did it before, but PGI prefers not to do that.

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Of course, probably it's not going to be very long or very frequent, but PT is something that at least i would have a much bigger incentive to play everyday, and perhaps others too.

Well no duh. For everyone that needs the extra boosts, sure. I don't. I have too much money as it is. PGI is simply less than willing to give it out for free. It's as simple as that. It's not that they haven't, but in this instance, they want you to buy that specific mechpack.

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Anyways i know that currently there is this 3 Day PT on Huntsman Pilot Challenge, but what about those who aren't piloting it?

The question you asked here is essentially...

"What are the other rewards for those that don't own Huntsman?"

Either my English is bad or you are not a native English speaker, but unless it means something else that I'm totally oblivious and that I'm a total idiot (which I'm more than willing to admit), that's how it reads to me.

It's either that or some vague tangent question that isn't apparently obvious.

Tell me what you're trying to say.