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#1 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:08 AM

I've been looking at my Cataphract in the game (and the one with the loyalty camouflage in the preview) and noticed a few... Discrepancies.
Some of the "Dynamic weapon geometry" does not match!
As you can see, the autocannon (both the one on the preview and on my current mech are supposed to be LBX autocannons) looks differently. It looks BETTER. Much better, in fact.
Not only that, both of the arms are different too. The right arm on the Loyalty variant no longer has the awful looking "glued-on" square laser pegs, instead having the lenses fully integrated into the arm (which looks MUCH, MUCH better!) and the PPC doesn't stick out as much (and has the barrel actually textured, which is great!)
In a similar fashion, the left arm is improved as well! It no longer has the empty box for the other hardpoint, which is great!
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Could this be a start to something great? Could PGI be starting to slowly re-working the awful weapon geometries on the mechs?
I bloody hope so.

Or am i just being stupid somehow? Am i being stupid, right now?

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 12 August 2016 - 08:13 AM.


#2 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:09 AM

Have you forgotten the Cataphract-4X's arms?

I'm not sure if they were touched on the rescaling update though.

#3 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:12 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 12 August 2016 - 08:09 AM, said:

Have you forgotten the Cataphract-4X's arms?

I'm not sure if they were touched on the rescaling update though.

They weren't as far as i know. (still has that ugly stump instead of the hand).
They could very easily improve it, by just mirroring the right arm for the left one, to be honest.

But i mean, if they're improving the dynamic geometry for the mech to go along with the loyalty variant, they could use the opportunity to fix that.

#4 Alistair Winter

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:15 AM

Good call. The arms on the Cataphract look ridiculous right now, glad they're fixing it.

Now I just need them to fix the god-awful missile launchers on the Centurion.

PLEASE!

#5 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:19 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 12 August 2016 - 08:12 AM, said:

They weren't as far as i know. (still has that ugly stump instead of the hand).
They could very easily improve it, by just mirroring the right arm for the left one, to be honest.

But i mean, if they're improving the dynamic geometry for the mech to go along with the loyalty variant, they could use the opportunity to fix that.


The Loyalty Cataphract (3L) is mostly a clone of the 1X.

I'm sure you need to bother tweet Russ with #mirroredarmsmatter when it comes to the Cataphract-4X.

View PostAlistair Winter, on 12 August 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

Good call. The arms on the Cataphract look ridiculous right now, glad they're fixing it.

Now I just need them to fix the god-awful missile launchers on the Centurion.

PLEASE!


#returnCN9missilebaydoor

The problem stems from trying to have a 2x20+15 tube configuration.

Then again, the Vindis would love an additional missile hardpoint...

Edited by Deathlike, 12 August 2016 - 08:17 AM.


#6 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:35 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 12 August 2016 - 08:19 AM, said:

I'm sure you need to bother tweet Russ with #mirroredarmsmatter when it comes to the Cataphract-4X.

I did tweet russ about it, but russ almost never replies to me, so that's something.

#7 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:37 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 12 August 2016 - 08:35 AM, said:

I did tweet russ about it, but russ almost never replies to me, so that's something.


#itssomething
-PGI motto since ????

#8 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 09:48 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 12 August 2016 - 08:37 AM, said:


#itssomething
-PGI motto since ????

Hey now, if PGI actually decided to go over the older mechs with rubbish Weapon geometries and improve them, heck, i'd be almost willing to forgive the "circus mechs" comments.

#9 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 09:54 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 12 August 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

Hey now, if PGI actually decided to go over the older mechs with rubbish Weapon geometries and improve them, heck, i'd be almost willing to forgive the "circus mechs" comments.


But but... Legomechs™!

#10 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 09:56 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 12 August 2016 - 09:54 AM, said:


But but... Legomechs™!

I wouldn't mind the concept of "legomechs" if they didn't look like garbage for the most part.

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 09:58 AM

#MakeMechwarriorGreatAgain

#MechLivesMatter

#12 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 09:57 PM

I do wonder, however, if this IS true (and not some interns mistake of showing off like the wrong model of the Cataphract or something) and PGI is truly trying to do the mechs justice by fixing their awful dynamic geometry.
What does it mean for other mechs, i wonder. Especially some, that really need it, like the Dragon and the Commando (who probably have it the worst when it comes to their weapon geometries, followed by the Centurion, probably).

I really bloody hope this is real.

#13 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 10:03 PM

Is there a tweet confirming this, or is this misplaced hope?

#14 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 10:08 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 12 August 2016 - 10:03 PM, said:

Is there a tweet confirming this, or is this misplaced hope?

Nope. Russ never replied to me. (But russ NEVER replies to me, so that does not necessarily mean anything)

And if you guys know me, this is probably the latter. I have a habit of misplacing incredible amounts of hope in things where ALL HOPE IS GONE (don't judge me, slipknot is somewhat of a guilty pleasure for me)

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 12 August 2016 - 11:35 PM.


#15 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 10:32 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 12 August 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

Nope. Russ never replied to me. (But russ NEVER replies to me, so that's does not necessarily mean anything)

And if you guys know me, this is probably the latter. I have a habit of misplacing incredible amounts of hope in things where ALL HOPE IS GONE (don't judge me, slipknot is somewhat of a guilty pleasure for me)


RIP, your tweets to Russ.

#16 AlexEss

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 10:55 PM

I would not read to much in to this.

Could be just a quick mock-up done for just that image.

But i am sure that if enough people twitter Russ and (in a polite way) ask about it he will reply come monday/tuesday. After all as hard as it might be to believe i am sure he has a life outside of the game too.

#17 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:10 PM

View PostAlexEss, on 12 August 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

I would not read to much in to this.

Could be just a quick mock-up done for just that image.

But i am sure that if enough people twitter Russ and (in a polite way) ask about it he will reply come monday/tuesday. After all as hard as it might be to believe i am sure he has a life outside of the game too.

Yeah... I guess it's possible that i might be reading too much into this.
Sort of a bad habit.

But it would be cool if it was real

#18 Deathlike

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:19 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 12 August 2016 - 11:10 PM, said:

Yeah... I guess it's possible that i might be reading too much into this.
Sort of a bad habit.

But it would be cool if it was real


You can dream the dream... just don't take the blue pill... or was it red?

#19 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:24 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 12 August 2016 - 11:19 PM, said:


You can dream the dream... just don't take the blue pill... or was it red?

Blue pill? Like Viagra? I'm not THAT old

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:32 PM

Well, unfortunately, the 'phract will always be ugly as sin with a weird bodyshape, mostly because it is a literal Frankenstein of a mech. I'm not joking. The first models of this thing were cobbled together from parts of mechs like the Marauder, the Shadow Hawk, and the Phoenix Hawk.

Edited by Requiemking, 12 August 2016 - 11:33 PM.






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