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[SlightlyMobileTurret]

Alistair Winter, on 13 August 2016 - 02:00 AM, said:

I also notice that the Awesome is one of the highest scoring mechs. #1 Awesome is at 3128, #10 Awesome is at 2653 points. By comparison, the #1 Atlas is at 2819 points and #10 Atlas is at 2504 points. The #2 King Crab is at 3150 points and #10 King Crab is at 2673 points.

In other words, except for that super skilled #1 King Crab pilot, the Awesome is doing very well compared to the Atlas and the King Crab. But why is this?

I suspect that this leaderboard is influenced by the fact that you can get absolutely insanely good matches by clubbing seals with the AWS-8R LRM boat on Polar Highlands, for example, when the enemy team has 8 clueless assault mechs. This will not normally be the case outside of these events. Indeed, a lot of the best assault mech LRM carriers are doing quite well, and this may explain why even the IS Highlander is getting surprisingly decent numbers (almost as good as the Highlander IIC, which is crazy)

I tried super hard with try hard pants for a few hrs with my 8Q. Was giving me real solid ~500 damage performances, which are nowhere near enough. (I mean, good performance for an awesome in T1, but not enough for leaderboards)

Got to ~1900 on the leaderboards with some absolutely amazing games (for leaderboard time), but the score inflating solo kills were too hard with PPCs. And the LPL builds were not reliable enough.

Could have hit 2000 with an hour more (and probably peaked at 2300 odd), but I quit on the first day when the 8R lrm boats crossed 2500. Now they've crossed 3500 IIRC.

Ran into Neathdrawls, he told me 1000 dmg games are not increasing leaderboard score from over his 3300+ score. That's insane.

If that's really true, KDK-3 leaderboard full of 1400+ dmg games for the first few guys?

[kesmai]

I've suggested a change for leaderboard before, but here it is again:
• opt in
• no group drops, only solo queue
• open queue, no tonnage or tier restrictions

Atm every player, group or solo, is forced into that leaderboard.
Only those who are interested in it should compete against each other.
No group or lfg padding should be allowed.

[SlightlyMobileTurret]

MOBAjobg, on 14 August 2016 - 08:25 PM, said:

I'm so sure that S3B is kaffeangst.

I'd seen before in one of my solo T1 public quick game that Victoria Seymore had dealt damage in access of 1800.

It has been mentioned that VictoriaSeymore = LORD KAFFEANGST ggclose™.

So, it's possible to achieve better score in T2 to T3 and much higher score in T4 to T5 games.

By the way, I'm #84 with a score of 2899 if anybody is wondering and does not intend to improve my position.

VictoriaSeymore is Kaffe's wife's account, which he has been using since the first KDK leaderboard. His account is definitely T3+ but not T1, since I could get it from my T4 alt.

Not sure if S3B is Kaffe.

nitra, on 13 August 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

its interesting that the battle master comes closet. as i wouldn't have considered it to be as threatening as the kodiak.

is it the geometry ? that makes it so potent . or is it the weapons just converge really well? or is it really the speed.

i dont know but its obvious the kodiak does have an edge over all other assaults mechs .

BLR-2C is structure buffed (+29 +18 + 18 on torsi) and has 5 cockpit level energy mounts. And lot of agility quirks. Most people are running the 5LPL, XL350 build.

[Dee Eight]

Ok why put this into the event rules....

Accounts that engage in non-participation or other violations of the CoC, such (but not limited to) AFK/non-participation farming or 'gaming' of the matchmaking system or event conditions will be subject to disqualification and moderation actions

If they're going to allow top players to run alt accounts to farm tier 4/5 potatoes. That is the very definition of GAMING the matchmaking system and event conditions.

[Dee Eight]

Carl Vickers, on 14 August 2016 - 10:59 PM, said:

Says the person with many thousands of games under his belt but is tier 4. What you are prolly seeing is a tier 1 player doing up an alt, spending $20 on kodiaks and farming lower tier players to get to the top of the leader board.

Why can this happen, cause PGI made it so.

5900 and climbing, mid way thru the tier 4 bar. I spent the first three thousand or so games having fun and dragging the tier bar to the very bottom. If it was possible to go to Tier 6, I'd have gone for it. I am at 2,377 on the battlemaster board, 1,763 on the banshee board, 1,610 on the HGN-IIC board. I haven't gotten to my HGNs, KDKs, or WHKs yet.

Edited by Dee Eight, 14 August 2016 - 11:40 PM.

[kesmai]

Good luck watching PGI enforcing their own rules.
If said account is an alt, how many others are?
Hearsay is no proof and i'm all for innocent until proven guilty.
So even if i know who S3B is can i prove it?
No, i can not.

Edited by kesmai, 14 August 2016 - 11:38 PM.

[Alienized]

Keshav Murali, on 14 August 2016 - 11:13 PM, said:

I tried super hard with try hard pants for a few hrs with my 8Q. Was giving me real solid ~500 damage performances, which are nowhere near enough. (I mean, good performance for an awesome in T1, but not enough for leaderboards)

Got to ~1900 on the leaderboards with some absolutely amazing games (for leaderboard time), but the score inflating solo kills were too hard with PPCs. And the LPL builds were not reliable enough.

Could have hit 2000 with an hour more (and probably peaked at 2300 odd), but I quit on the first day when the 8R lrm boats crossed 2500. Now they've crossed 3500 IIRC.

Ran into Neathdrawls, he told me 1000 dmg games are not increasing leaderboard score from over his 3300+ score. That's insane.

If that's really true, KDK-3 leaderboard full of 1400+ dmg games for the first few guys?

propably. i doubt that they get many solo kills with their loadouts so they have to do more damage to compensate.

i had a darn lucky battle yesterday with my brawl victor that got me around 400 to 500 score for the event (cant tell exactly)


just to show what needs to be done to get such high score. to most mechs, such battles are only once of a thousand battles. the kodiak can do such with ease. seen it happen with lizzee myself who cracked 1600 dmg while i was pushing mechs into the open with my K2 catapult so he can shoot it.

they couldnt do such battles if they would have to brawl or lead pushes.

Edited by Alienized, 14 August 2016 - 11:40 PM.

[Dee Eight]

I had this happen yesterday...



which I thought a good result for a hellslinger battlemaster, and then this happened..



which of course breaks the scoring system since there is no allowance in it for TIE games... let alone a tie conquest game...

[Dee Eight]

Also I think the matchmaker takes skills into more account than Tier now, because I find myself shoved in with Tier 1s and 2s way more often than 4s or 5s.

[Ex Atlas Overlord]

kesmai, on 14 August 2016 - 11:15 PM, said:

No group or lfg padding should be allowed.

Pretty much this.... I was going alright until I realized every time I took the top slot someone was just going to hop in group Q to game their way back into the lead.

Oh well, I guess I'll just go back to avoiding events *shrug*

[TechChris]

Ok?

What's it really matter? A few more weeks n Kodiak will complete it's "life cycle"

Be released for cbills, be nerfed until it's just another generic robot, n 2 days later Russ will announce you can pre-order a Bane.

Edited by TechChris, 15 August 2016 - 12:34 AM.

[Novakaine]

Highly OP nuff said.

[Johnny Z]

Ex Atlas Overlord, on 15 August 2016 - 12:12 AM, said:

Pretty much this.... I was going alright until I realized every time I took the top slot someone was just going to hop in group Q to game their way back into the lead.

Oh well, I guess I'll just go back to avoiding events *shrug*

No need to avoid events. I tried really hard for one and now its no big deal to me. I play a few matches in events now and that's about it.

This event seems to be getting a lot more attention than usual for some reason though.

[tenchugecko]

the score means, its the deadliest mech if not killed!!!!
its 10 best matches.

[UnofficialOperator]

Well I know a few in the top 10 for various boards are solo queues, myself included, so it is possible to go top without being in group drops.

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 15 August 2016 - 06:05 AM.

[S3B]

100% Solo Queue on this account.

[Ghogiel]

kesmai, on 14 August 2016 - 11:35 PM, said:

Good luck watching PGI enforcing their own rules.
If said account is an alt, how many others are?
Hearsay is no proof and i'm all for innocent until proven guilty.
So even if i know who S3B is can i prove it?
No, i can not.

You don't need to prove anything. PGI can and has done IP checks to find alt accounts.

[Satan n stuff]

Yosharian, on 13 August 2016 - 01:41 AM, said:

Yet another factor could be that, for the more popular mechs such as the Kodiak, competition is more fierce because the status of 'best Kodiak player' means quite a lot, while winning the Victor leaderboard, for example, might mean relatively little because the Victor isn't very popular. Fierce competition raises the bar because you have the most exceptional players in the game driving each other to higher and higher scores.

Winning any board means quite a lot actually, because you still have to compete with the best assaults on your own team and survive the ones on the enemy team to actually get a good score.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 15 August 2016 - 06:59 AM.

[pyrocomp]

Ghogiel, on 15 August 2016 - 06:29 AM, said:

You don't need to prove anything. PGI can and has done IP checks to find alt accounts.

Which do nothing since the fixed IPs are not common (thus you have different IP each time you power up you PC) and home networks behind router are common (several PCs can have same IP), and there are proxys. So forget about IPs, they are useless for this task.
Searching for the alt-account is not that simple. Some times there is no, literally, way to have direct evidence of an account being an alt one. Well, without spyware that is, but spyware is a little-off the legal table (in many jurisdictions this is prohibited) and there is always a probability that your buddy logged into his account on your machine to show you something.
So no, whatever PGI says I strongly suspect that their statements on alt accounts being 'bad' are... well, they have very limited options on to find so, if even there are those options.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

pyrocomp, on 15 August 2016 - 07:01 AM, said:

Which do nothing since the fixed IPs are not common (thus you have different IP each time you power up you PC)

It is actually your router that would need to be restarted to change your IP, not your PC (since your PC tends to be within a private NAT). But yes, IPs can be flubbed, if they have access to your MAC address though, then you would be in trouble.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 15 August 2016 - 07:18 AM.