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[MarsThunder]

vandalhooch, on 20 August 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:

Doesn't matter what the odds are for the top prize, your prize will always be worth more than 50K C-bills. Therefor, it is not a scam.

PGI wants us to buy cache keys for real money and for this they made the thing looks like it has a fair chance to win something worth. This is surely a SCAM.

[vandalhooch]

MarsThunder, on 20 August 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

PGI wants us to buy cache keys for real money and for this they made the thing looks like it has a fair chance to win something worth. This is surely a SCAM.

What is a "fair" chance? I think you are confusing "fair" with "even." Of course they want you to spend money. It's a for-profit company after all. It's not a scam because they will always reward MC use with something worth more than non-use.

Just because your reptilian brain can not comprehend the fact that the "free" mech is not really yours when it shows up in a cache does not mean that PGI took it away from you when you opened the cache.

[Dee Eight]

Apparently PGI holds a gun to every player's head and forces them to buy keys instead of just selling the cache for 50k cbills.

[Falconer Cyrus]

vandalhooch, on 20 August 2016 - 12:03 PM, said:

Just because your reptilian brain

Your IQ is clear.

[Appogee]

Captain Luffy, on 20 August 2016 - 09:09 AM, said:

I had it landing on a Vindicator once, but right before it said I won it it flipped to the next item which was a crap weapon

That was a lucky escape.

I have opened about 20 caches and have only ever won weapons or omnipods that I don't need. I certainly won't be buying any more keys.

BTW: "caches" and "keys" in "a BattleTech game". It could so easily have been "salvage" and "technicians". But PGI spends no time on immersion.

Edited by Appogee, 20 August 2016 - 12:50 PM.

[ColourfulConfetti]

Not a scam, but certainly poorly thought out, with the free keys I got from the event, I'm even less inclined to spend money on supply cache keys than I was before, I already thought the whole concept was absolutely silly. In the end I got about 8 random low value weapons, not that I mind free stuff, but geesh, I'm not gonna spend real money if I'm going to get a bunch of random weapons from the caches.

Edited by PalmaRoma, 20 August 2016 - 02:44 PM.

[RustyBolts]

I have received nothing but crap with the supply cache. So I refuse to spend MC on them now.

[Monkey Lover]

http://www.ipvancouv.../contests-faqs/

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Section 74.06 of the Competition Act is a civil provision. It prohibits any promotional contest that does not disclose the number and approximate value of prizes, the area or areas to which they relate and any important information relating to the chances of winning such as the odds of winning. It also stipulates that the distribution of prizes cannot be unduly delayed and that participants be selected or prizes distributed on the basis of skill or on a random basis.

This is basically a contest it looks like Canadian law says you must disclose the odds of winning.

[Mad Manuel]

The supply caches are trash. The last two I've done stopped on a Vindicator and flicked to the 100k cbills next too it and the next cache stopped on a mechbay before flicking to the Jump Jets tier 5 next to it.

23 caches and the best thing I've gotten is 1 premium day. Hordes of useless little weapons and Parts for Clan mechs I'll never own.

Edited by Mad Manuel, 20 August 2016 - 03:51 PM.

[Dee Eight]

Appogee, on 20 August 2016 - 12:45 PM, said:

That was a lucky escape.

I have opened about 20 caches and have only ever won weapons or omnipods that I don't need. I certainly won't be buying any more keys.

BTW: "caches" and "keys" in "a BattleTech game". It could so easily have been "salvage" and "technicians". But PGI spends no time on immersion.

So if they renamed it salvage cache and hired technicians you'd be fine with it ?

Mad Manuel, on 20 August 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

The supply caches are trash. The last two I've done stopped on a Vindicator and flicked to the 100k cbills next too it and the next cache stopped on a mechbay before flicking to the Jump Jets tier 5 next to it.

23 caches and the best thing I've gotten is 1 premium day. Hordes of useless little weapons and Parts for Clan mechs I'll never own.

150 or so now, 5 bays, 5 modules, a couple weeks of premium time, a few hundred MC, millions of c-bills, a lot of expensive weapons I routinely use, and a couple cockpit items among my highlight reel.

[Mad Manuel]

Dee Eight, on 20 August 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

150 or so now, 5 bays, 5 modules, a couple weeks of premium time, a few hundred MC, millions of c-bills, a lot of expensive weapons I routinely use, and a couple cockpit items among my highlight reel.

Congratulations, in these crappy lotto mechanics there's always a couple that get super lucky while the rest of the people get skunked.

They're still terrible.

Edited by Mad Manuel, 20 August 2016 - 04:06 PM.

[Ebins]

This event along with spending all my earned MC on supply cache keys previously has convinced me to never purchase them with real $. I feel that they are a rip off and a way for the developer to leach more money from players. Note, I am a paying member and have purchased mech packs, so I do spend money. However, I have never "won" anything of value. I have been saving supply cache keys for those who look to have things of most value. The previous one, I got an EBJ side torso. Seriously? This last one, I would have been happy with all items in it except for two, and what did I get? An lbx-2 AC. Pathetic. As far as the 50k credits go, I'll get that in one match - win or not. The 50k credit minimum is not worth my hard earned cash.

The only time I'll ever use supply cache keys from now on is if I get them for free.

[vandalhooch]

Falconer Cyrus, on 20 August 2016 - 12:35 PM, said:

Your IQ is clear.

Reptilian brain is a reference to basal behaviors and psychology that lie underneath conscious thought. It isn't an insult. We all have a reptilian brain within a mammalian/primate coating.

Monkey Lover, on 20 August 2016 - 03:41 PM, said:

http://www.ipvancouv.../contests-faqs/



This is basically a contest it looks like Canadian law says you must disclose the odds of winning.

Odds of winning? 100% Every single opening results in a prize with value greater than 50K C-bills.

[RavenKnight86]

Supply caches aren't worth spending real life money on them. But granted there will be those who say they are worth it.

[vandalhooch]

RavenKnight86, on 20 August 2016 - 06:33 PM, said:

Supply caches aren't worth spending real life money on them. But granted there will be those who say they are worth it.

Whether or not the caches are "worth" spending bought MC on will always be a personal opinion. There is no definitive "yes" or "no" about it.

[RavenKnight86]

vandalhooch, on 20 August 2016 - 06:35 PM, said:

Whether or not the caches are "worth" spending bought MC on will always be a personal opinion. There is no definitive "yes" or "no" about it.

And my opinion is there are more worthwhile things to spend the MC on. Plus it's the opinion shared by most of my unit that the supply caches are really only worth the 50k C-bills you get for acquiring them via selling them.

[Appogee]

Dee Eight, on 20 August 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

So if they renamed it salvage cache and hired technicians you'd be fine with it ?

At least it'd feel a bit less like playing a ticket machine in a kiddie arcade.

[Juodas Varnas]

I got a lump of coal.

It's something.

[Kalleballe]

vandalhooch, on 20 August 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

Odds of winning? 100% Every single opening results in a prize with value greater than 50K C-bills.

If keys were sold for 50k C-bills you would have a valid argument.

[DGTLDaemon]

Just my 2 cents The way I see it, supply caches are a great thing for F2P players or those who don't spend much money on the game. PGI is regularly giving out caches and keys as event prizes, and you can earn caches through normal gameplay, so it's just an added bonus. I've opened something like 7-8 caches so far, got 500 MC plus a bunch of crap I didn't need, but could sell for C-Bills. So as long as PGI keeps giving out free keys, I'm all for it. Paying for the keys, however, is another matter entirely. I would look at it as paying for lottery tickets, or spending money at the casino - definitely not a valid financial investment, but if you have extra money to blow and feel lucky, then why not? Bottom line is, as long as you don't expect/hope/count on getting anything valuable from the supply caches, you'll be fine.