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[LowSubmarino]

As everybody knows, UAVS are the legitimate wall or more precisely battlefield - hack of mwo.

And this description is by no means meant to whine about UAVs. Quite the contrary. They are as useful as they are lethal.

Good teams/players will use that all seeing eye and facemelt you while you havent even cleared a corner yet while ducking away before you even had a chance to return the favor. UAVs have the by far greatest potential to impact win/loss chances if a team knows how to use them or how to counter them.

And this is the point.

Killing uavs wont generate any significant financial benefit whatsover.

The rewards is less than abysmal.

It should at the very least give you as much reward as component destruction even though killing a single well placed uav will prolly save 12 + components of your own team. So even that reward would not reflect the benefit of taking uavs down whatsoever. But at least there would be some sort of reward.

As it is not nobody shoots uavs. The reason for that is incomprehensible for me because: who wants to be naked in front of the all seeing eye?

Players dont understand that their every move can be seen by the entire enemy team if in range of the uav.

You know my reaction to a (or more than one) uav above my precious HunchbackIICA?

'Holy sh*t. Jesus Christ. Mother of mercy. To all the gods and goddesses, lend me your strength, aim, will and power just this once so I may have what it takes to burn this murderous all seeing eye demon out of the sky'.

And that is an understatment.

UAVS are a priority target.

I immediatly focus 95 % of my attention to destroy them.

As fast and as mercilessly as I can.

99,99999999999999999999 % of mwo players ignore them.

Completly.

And I think one reason - besides obviously having no clue just how dangerous UAVs truely are - is that killing uavs does not generate any kind of income whatsovoer.

It should be one of the biggest paydays ever to take down just one of those monsters if you measure the potential massacre a single uav can stimulate. And the bloodbath you pretect your team against by bringing them down.

1. Cricticism: The community has mostly no idea whatsoever what uavs actually do. Ill try to explain it in simple words and very clearly: They see you, your movement, position, speed, direction, and can glance-peek-avoid-harass-enclose-surround-stalk-annoy-mutilate-kill you and your entire team.

Give way, way, waayyyy more information concerning just how important or lethal uavs can be to new and even most veteran players. Assume that most Tier 1 players have as much clue concerning UAVs as a brand new player would have. Then you will 100 % correct in your assumption. Heres the number. 9,75 out of 10 Tier 1 players have no idea whatsoever what a uav does or why it is much, much, much more dangerous than 2 kodiaks materilazing right in front of you. So explain it to all the players. No matter if complete newbie or Tier 1. Dont assume in higher Tiers most or even a lot of even a few plyers know about UAVs. Trust my word - and the gods may take my life in this very second - that they simply do not.

So give tool tips, let some major strats, tipps or warnings scroll down the cockpit at the very start of the game. While in the dropship or powering up.

Let it be giant, red, bloody, letters that noone could overlook.

Let a talented texter or author write those simple warnings in eloquent, menacing and absoltely clear words and sentences. The warnings have to instill fear and terror. Let them be joined by pictures of fields if massacred mechs or mutilated mech corpses. Then blend in a single all seeing eye saying something like: You can doubt me. You can ignore me. But I am the bringer of death and I will lay waste to you and your armies.

2. Criticism: Bringing down such an evil demon should generate more income. I mean.....is there even one plausible reason to not give players that kill those demons medals right away, mention them in the forums as heroes, give them huge financial wins, promised seats in the council, mothers' endless cheers of sincere thanks since you saved their sons and daugthers from certain death by taking down those demons.

Thats it.

Rant over.

[Kotzi]

Not getting your *** handed to you is quite a reward + you get 50XP and 2000ish cbills per UAV kill. I dont see any real problem here.

[Bill Lumbar]

Ummm yeah..... I am sorry but I stopped reading your post after you stated, "As it is not nobody shoots uavs." I make it a point to take them down anytime my mech allows me to do so, when I run brawler builds it is sometimes hard to hit them with small lasers or small pulse lasers. I always come over chat and the mics at the start of the match telling team mates to keep a eye on the sky and watch for them. I also remind players through out the match, if I can't hit them myself, I watch for them and call out when I see them over the comes and continue to do so till they are taken down. Team work, communication.... OP ,PGI please nerf!

And yes, I agree, the rewards for many things in this game are just derp....including this one. Welcome to the Paul economy, working as intended TM.

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 24 August 2016 - 05:42 AM.

[El Bandito]

Oneda is exaggerating as usual.

Whenever I see a UAV, I call the grid immediately, and almost everytime pugs would shoot at it. Most pugs know what UAV does and they consider it a threat. I would of course shoot at it, unless I am in a mech that has only torso mounted weapons that are unable to reach the target.

As for better UAV rewards, I have been asking for that for better part of the year. Needs better C-Bill, XP and match score rewards for shooting them down.

Edited by El Bandito, 24 August 2016 - 05:52 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

Kotzi, on 24 August 2016 - 04:14 AM, said:

Not getting your *** handed to you is quite a reward + you get 50XP and 2000ish cbills per UAV kill. I dont see any real problem here.

5,000 I think?


Some FP games I've killed upwards of 8-10 UAVs

But yeah, gross exaggeration.

[SQW]

I have dozens of game the past week on T3 and the only time the team isn't killing UAV is when the team can look up high enough. Most pilots would be happy just knowing there isn't one sitting over their heads.

Really, just call out "enemy UAV @ XY" and a barrage of LLs would follow. If anything, there should be a big fat c-bill reward for the first guy to hoover the crosshair over a UAV.

[LowSubmarino]

Don't know what game you guys have been playing.

But it cannot be MWO.

In the pug games I play nobody ever shoots UAVs.

And never means never as in 'ppl do not ever shoot uavs above their or anybody elses heads'.

[KodiakGW]

oneda, on 24 August 2016 - 06:23 AM, said:

In the pug games I play nobody ever shoots UAVs.

You and I must be in the same queue. I had a game Monday night where I shot down 4 UAVs in less than a minute. I have a video posted of me leveling a Crab shooting down three UAVs. When I am not the only one shooting a UAV, it is usually someone trying to hit it with IS mediums or small lasers.

Considering that you need to slow down to get a good bead on it, the rewards should be more. You are putting yourself in danger for others. Not saying it can't be done running full speed, just more likely to get it on the first shot when going slow. Rewards for saving team members getting lurm'ed to death who are under it. Maybe some sort of savior bonus for every mech targeted because of UAV.

[DrxAbstract]

Slight, slight exaggeration going on here...

I bet if they change the bonus for killing UAVs from 15XP 1,500 C-Bills to 500 XP+GXP and 30,000 C-Bills people would be on them like breakdowns on Fords.

[Appogee]

In PUG matches I tell people on VOIP when there's a UAV over their heads, if I can't reach it myself.

It's remarkable how many do nothing, and just let themselves get LRM spammed.