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[Commander A9]

Sure it is! You can still play even with a family to take care of! Hell, you can make future mechwarriors out of them!

Still, I sympathize with the constraints on one's time. So let's make everyone's time worthwhile-let's play for the sake of playing alongside each other.

Edited by Commander A9, 15 October 2016 - 09:56 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Commander A9, on 29 August 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

So, I've been thinking something about Community Warfare.

The going opinion seems to be that Community Warfare offers no incentive to play it. However, perhaps there is an incentive in playing with the people who actually play it?

What if we were to change up our mindset to say "the incentive...is us?"

The incentive of playing Community Warfare could be to play as a team, with other people, those of your team, and those you don't know.

When I log into Mechwarrior Online, the second thing I do is activate my Teamspeak, and get into the hub of my team, find who's on, organize a drop team, and launch the match.

So, perhaps we should focus on the very idea of Community, of gatherings of players, of playing Community Warfare for the sake of playing with others, especially if you belong to a team.

Therefore, if you belong to a team, chat with your buddies about playing together for the sake of playing together as a team. If you need a new team, or if your buddies aren't online, find other people to play with! Plenty still do.

I began my "Enough Whining" topic with the idea that the individual is responsible for his own circumstances of success or failure. Applying the same logic, the individual is responsible for his decision to play alone, or play with others. So, seek out your buddies, and your team, and let us consider playing for the sake of team play.

I know there is a plan for CWI and dragoons are putting up an event where we are gonna heavily engage in CW on the 21st and 24th I believe. It's an early announcement and things could change but yea. Gotta make those matches happen.

some of the best matches I had were in FW, and it didn't take more than just playing.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 15 October 2016 - 10:11 AM.

[Vagosei]

Very well said A9. Hope many read that. Very simple yet very true. This is a fun game if we all do this.

[Felix Von Luckner]

Kudos to your positivity.

However what sustains this is a format that is engaging and gives you the tools to express and pass that positivity on. Currently there is none in game. Some people don't have TS, or don't bother, or are shy because of the cricitism from other players they receive. Also there is no general chat, waiting times and format are not new player friendly. At every step in FP/CW there are blocks that prevent any positive action from being passed on.

All those minor issues combined make FP/CW unattractive or undesirable to play. We can and have all at one time had the positivity but only PGI can give us the agency to make FP/CW what it should be. They're too busy pairing it down, or distracting us with mech sales while pushing ED to make any sizeable leap forward.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Felix Von Luckner, on 16 October 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

They're too busy pairing it down, or distracting us with mech sales while pushing ED to make any sizeable leap forward.

This idea that they are deliberately trying to ruin a mode is unfounded. This other idea that they are distracting us becuase they are not really working on it is also unfounded. your evidence is what?

[Commander A9]

I know about the constraints we face (although there IS VOIP in the game itself, and we have time to chat it up before we actually launch to discuss mechs).

But, like I said, perhaps the incentive is the people that make the place a nice place to play?

Once this long-*** event is over, I'll be back to CW-ing it up with my people.

[ccrider]

Cw during the event. So easy to hit that 500 match score requirement here.

[Commander A9]

I do admit-this challenge much like the last one feels like you could do it in your sleep. Not that I'm decrying the challenge.

But I AM decrying that we haven't had a dedicated CW event in quite some time...and we really could use one of those right now.

I had an idea about a Faction Loyalty II Event a little while back: http://mwomercs.com/...age__p__5411521

[Commander A9]

Now is the time more than ever to get CW going before they revolutionize it!

Get your 100-point match game, then join up in CW and get some REAL matches going!

Play for the people, warriors! We might not have much time left...

Edited by Commander A9, 26 November 2016 - 03:31 PM.

[Commander A9]

I know this may be stale logic, but now is yet another time to play for the people, fellas.

We're at each other's throats more so on the forums than we are in-game. This is getting counter-productive.

So now it's time to play the game for what it was meant to be: a means of like-minded mechwarriors to congregate and blast the crap outta each other.

So group up! Play with friends! Play on Teamspeak! Play on Discord! Play for the people!

And if you don't have any friends, use Looking For Group, Clan and Faction Chat, and get in there!

Edited by Commander A9, 30 December 2016 - 06:25 PM.

[Cox Devalis]

Social part of any MMO game is something important. I'd never play so long in a game like this without any friends (who came with this game). And I am still a part of group who's playing another game (mmorpg lineage-like) for 10 years. It's just a family now, and there are no any games in the whole world that is able to hold people for decade. It's all about units/clans/guilds etc.

[Skipmagnet]

I admire your positivity, but some of us don't have any friends and have had more bad experiences than good in group queue, unit play and FW. Also I doubt anyone will appreciate my drop deck of MLX-B SHC-I KFX-S and EXE-C. =)

[Bud Crue]

Commander A9, on 30 December 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

I know this may be stale logic, but now is yet another time to play for the people, fellas.

We're at each other's throats more so on the forums than we are in-game. This is getting counter-productive.

So now it's time to play the game for what it was meant to be: a means of like-minded mechwarriors to congregate and blast the crap outta each other.

So group up! Play with friends! Play on Teamspeak! Play on Discord! Play for the people!

And if you don't have any friends, use Looking For Group, Clan and Faction Chat, and get in there!

Play QP and it is just fine to "Play for the people!"
This is not possible however for most in CW though. Going into CW with the attitude of I just want to "blast the crap outta" others will result in comments of: "Well here, that isn't good enough. Here you need to play with skill and discipline, as part of a team, and then only with certain mechs and certain builds, otherwise get the hell out." Should you fail in any aspect of this, be it personal skill, team cohesiveness, running "good" mechs and builds. Anything, then you are not welcome here...

...except by those ever charming "skilled" folks who complain about such "scrub" players, yet seem to go out of their way to make sure that they have as great of a chance as possible to play against those same scrubs. As one of those scrubs: no thanks, I think I am done with the abuse from all those friendly "like-minded" folks. Thankfully PGI provides a "placeholder" game for us scrubs called group queue QP. Don't worry though, if CW keeps up as it is all the rest of you like-minded folks will end up back here eventually. Its great! Here you can play with like-minded folks who just want to bast the crap outta each other!

[justcallme A S H]

Cox Devalis, on 30 December 2016 - 07:33 PM, said:

Social part of any MMO game is something important. I'd never play so long in a game like this without any friends (who came with this game). And I am still a part of group who's playing another game (mmorpg lineage-like) for 10 years. It's just a family now, and there are no any games in the whole world that is able to hold people for decade. It's all about units/clans/guilds etc.

Mate I cannot agree more. It's the community that keeps me coming back, not the game.

I hop around the 30+ Team Speak addresses (for MWO) I have. Try to find drops where I can. If not sometimes I just drop by for a chat, especially after a beers. Poor Pat Kell has listened to my drunk ramblings many times... But end of the day, it's still laughs. Stuff you can't get elsewhere.

I've only dropped with the EVIL guys very recently, appreciate why you don't just let 'anyone' do that given the play style etc. And even if there is a fair language barrier it still doesn't matter. We play, talk **** best we can - and overall - have fun. (Except when Uber is drunk, his English resembles Chinese at that point).

[Commander A9]

eyeballs, on 31 December 2016 - 12:33 AM, said:

I admire your positivity, but some of us don't have any friends and have had more bad experiences than good in group queue, unit play and FW. Also I doubt anyone will appreciate my drop deck of MLX-B SHC-I KFX-S and EXE-C. =)

Sure there is! There are dozens of Teamspeaks and Discord channels looking for more people to join up!

No matter where you want to go, the people you choose to play with will help you get there!

Bud Crue, on 31 December 2016 - 07:57 AM, said:

Play QP and it is just fine to "Play for the people!"
This is not possible however for most in CW though. Going into CW with the attitude of I just want to "blast the crap outta" others will result in comments of: "Well here, that isn't good enough. Here you need to play with skill and discipline, as part of a team, and then only with certain mechs and certain builds, otherwise get the hell out." Should you fail in any aspect of this, be it personal skill, team cohesiveness, running "good" mechs and builds. Anything, then you are not welcome here...

...except by those ever charming "skilled" folks who complain about such "scrub" players, yet seem to go out of their way to make sure that they have as great of a chance as possible to play against those same scrubs. As one of those scrubs: no thanks, I think I am done with the abuse from all those friendly "like-minded" folks. Thankfully PGI provides a "placeholder" game for us scrubs called group queue QP. Don't worry though, if CW keeps up as it is all the rest of you like-minded folks will end up back here eventually. Its great! Here you can play with like-minded folks who just want to bast the crap outta each other!

Actually, I would think that Community Warfare offers you the greatest opportunity to play with the people and for the sake of playing with people. You've got several chat channels, and the forums here, all of which showcase various teams open to having people drop alongside them, and even joining them on a more permanent basis. Understand that the more competitive teams may expect you to adhere to some kind of standard of mechs, and the casual teams may be so lax that they will struggle during their matches, but nonetheless, the opportunity to play with others is always there.

And if we aren't playing for the sake of having fun together, then why ARE we here?

Edited by Commander A9, 31 December 2016 - 10:37 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Commander A9, on 31 December 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:

Actually, I would think that Community Warfare offers you the greatest opportunity to play with the people and for the sake of playing with people. You've got several chat channels, and the forums here, all of which showcase various teams open to having people drop alongside them, and even joining them on a more permanent basis. Understand that the more competitive teams may expect you to adhere to some kind of standard of mechs, and the casual teams may be so lax that they will struggle during their matches, but nonetheless, the opportunity to play with others is always there.

And if we aren't playing for the sake of having fun together, then why ARE we here?

I don't think CW provides any more opportunity than group queue QP for playing with a diverse group of folks and one's friends. In fact based on the FRR TS, on most weeknights there is one 12 man (ISEN et al) playing CW (often but not always) and most everyone else is in QP. Same with most weekends, except maybe Fridays, when there is more of a CW push. QP also has the added benefit of most folks not getting psychotically bent out of shape over one's short-comings or failures at being a top tier, meta running, super gamer. Frankly, its less stressful, and thus more fun. Sure, if I was a top level player and played exclusively with other top level players, then CW or MRBC would likely be more fun to play with like-minded and like-skilled folks. But, I am not. So, If I want to have a good time without being told what a scrub I am but still have fun blowing stuff up with my friends and unit mates, I've just accepted that it is best to do it in group queue of quick play.

Alas, QP has become the realm of the top 10% (this is historically true though I expect that right now CW is closer to 25%...give it a few weeks though). That aint me and probably never will be. For me CW is something I will always aspire to enjoy, as I hope PGI keeps aspiring to make it better, but for now I just don't. Lose as often as I do, even when running as part of a 12 man with better players than I, and it becomes self evident that the mode is not for people like me (people lacking real skill). Thus, I think it best to stay away and merely visit on special occasions.

But to you and yours I wish you nothing but the best, and hope you continue to have as much fun as you can. I'll be in quick play if you need a scrub to stomp.

[Skipmagnet]

Commander A9, on 31 December 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:

And if we aren't playing for the sake of having fun together, then why ARE we here?

Stompy robbitz wot shoot beamz an' rokkitz, m8! Is there anything else? Plus, playing solo, I have no one to disappoint but myself, so I can be as pugtato salad ™ as I please. Units and groups and stuff is hard and harsh and not enough like the kind of fun I want.