16 replies to this topic

[veedubfreak]

You guys ever going to ban these people that blatently aimbot and don't even care who knows?

[Kael Posavatz]

Gotta question.

The way my crosshairs keep snapping all over the place in 3pv. Is that an aimbot?

Because...I mean, I know my aiming is nothing to write home about, but that guy just plain sucks.

[Mcgral18]

It's always nice to have a laugh when someone accuses you of using one.


But, it seems PGI will only ban them when you send them videos (see ManyHeatsinks)

[dervishx5]

Hey it's how competitive players stay competitive. Or it's what the bads tell themselves to sleep easier.

[N0ni]

Mcgral18, on 05 September 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

(ManyHeatsinks)

I'll admit i didn't think 3 PPCs would be effective heat-wise, but the amount of fun incorporating that into one of my TBRs... credit where credit is due.

I couldn't concentrate after one-shotting a Raven in the back on the Bog my first match with it lol.

[Steel Claws]

I put 3 ERPPCs on my Rifleman. Cores light out pretty quick and takes light legs like eating chicken. Managed a head shot on a ebon jaguar this morning. Rather liking the combination.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Mcgral18, on 05 September 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

It's always nice to have a laugh when someone accuses you of using one.


But, it seems PGI will only ban them when you send them videos (see ManyHeatsinks)

only if they see them in comp play or have it shoved down their throats

[Wintersdark]

Kael Posavatz, on 05 September 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

Gotta question.

The way my crosshairs keep snapping all over the place in 3pv. Is that an aimbot?

Because...I mean, I know my aiming is nothing to write home about, but that guy just plain sucks.

Not sure if joking or you don't know why the 3pv crosshairs snap. Can explain if you actually want to know.


But yeah, the problem you have is it's very hard to know if someone is aimbotting, good, or lucky.

I've got 3 1-shot headshots in a single match before; pure luck. Think I still have the video somewhere actually.

You CAN'T tell from spectating, because what you see when spectating is NOT what the player is seeing; it can look strange and jerky, and things that look like clear misses can hit and clear hits can miss.

Aimbots are possible, but they can't force your crosshairs to move any faster than you can move them. All mech movement is server authenticated. So they CAN move your crosshairs for you, but only in the same manner you would (they'd be sending mouse movements to the game). They can't make impossible shots as a result either.

They do happen and are used, but infrequently.

Getting headshot is no indication of cheating, as quite frankly people aim centerline, cockpits are centerline, and the right weapon loadout is going to put all that damage in exactly the same spot, so if they happen to fire at the right spot (or you turn a bit and move the right spot into their line of fire.... Pop.

A guy running dual gauss will tend to a lot of headshots, particularly if he knows where mech cockpit hitboxes are. You can one-shot a fully armored cockpit... 52% of the time? McGral will correct me if I'm wrong. But hitting a cockpit isn't as hard as you'd think if you're trying, and can absolutely happen purely accidentally... Particularly when you're looking at the shooter.

[RestosIII]

Steel Claws, on 05 September 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

I put 3 ERPPCs on my Rifleman. Cores light out pretty quick and takes light legs like eating chicken. Managed a head shot on a ebon jaguar this morning. Rather liking the combination.

I'm still super proud of my headshotting a fresh Ebon Jaguar in my Puma Prime while he rained LRMs on my face. Nothing like a headshot through the screenshake and explosions of LRMs.

[Coolant]

ban 'em and shame 'em

[Davegt27]

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Gotta question.

The way my crosshairs keep snapping all over the place in 3pv. Is that an aimbot?

Because...I mean, I know my aiming is nothing to write home about, but that guy just plain sucks.

ok so I am not the only one that this happens to

I even have video of my aim point snapping

I blame PGI for everything since they have complete control of the game (that's why they are not worried about cheaters)

[Lukoi Banacek]

aim point in 3pv is, if I remember correctly, supposed to be mildly spasmic just as it is. Working as intended.

[Bohxim]

1 of the reasons I hate the 3pv challenge... I gave up and just played normally to clear the rest.

Pray tell, how do you tell if someone is aimbotting?

[BigBenn]

Come to think of it... I did get shot in the head on Sunday (Sept 4th) for the first time in months. Two hits to my Battlemaster's noggin'... and down I went. Definitely with a gauss, and I believe the wielding mech was a Shadow Cat.

[Jingseng]

Indeed, other than someone admitting it, I don't think there is a sure fire way to know. You can get very consistent and well aimed shots with adv. zoom and a steady hand (lowered mouse settings). You can also get ridiculously lucky shots without intending to.

The knee jerk when you are having a bad day or a bad streak (or both) is to call cheating... but unless you have objective evidence (rather than subjective "come on that HAD to be cheating" 'feels') I don't think you can say with certainty.

I do remember one time, in spectator mode though, one guy was walking stuck against a corner, and his torso/aim reticle would keep jerking from one target to the next (and sometimes friendlies) over and over for several minutes straight. That seems like bot behavior to me, but maybe it wasn't?

I feel like if botting were rampant, stuff like that would be more common... and, as a problem, it'd become much more apparent (generally high accuracy for users... you wouldn't think someone would code an aimbot to fire when it doesn't believe it will hit, right?). But I'm not sure having PGI devote resources to this (which just generally makes it an escalating arms race) is preferable to, say, new maps, more mechs, better game modes...

[Vxheous]

veedubfreak, on 05 September 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

You guys ever going to ban these people that blatently aimbot and don't even care who knows?

Quick reminder, being accused of aimbot by bads is the best compliment in this game. I mean "how dare they core out my non-front loaded armor medium mech that's standing still at 500m!!!! My particles are set to very high and I can't see them, how come they can see me!!!"

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 05 September 2016 - 08:57 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

hello everyone yes its me Again,
your Friendly Neighborhood Modderman,

i can assure you that if someone Cheats(AimBots) they will be found out,
and if they are found out they will be banned for their Crimes(Using AimBots),

just like if some one posts a Topic discussing Cheating,
it will be found and subsequently locked by a Mod,

you guys know better,

Please remember Disusing Cheating or Hacking is in Violation of the COC,
if you suspect some one of Cheating Please use the In game Report Function,
Locking this Topic, as OP has been informed to reported suspected Cheaters,
Thank you for your Cooperation,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 05 September 2016 - 09:18 PM.