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[Sader325]

So how does this thing lose its side torso.

How do you deal with that missile launcher?

It's gonna be kinda ackward if that missile launcher counts as side torso, or gets blown off when you hit the bottom of the side torso.

Edited by Sader325, 07 September 2016 - 09:09 AM.

[dervishx5]

You shoot the panel below the CT and the cockpit ejects.

[Revis Volek]

Same way any mech does, you shoot it till it falls off!


I dont see how this is much different then say the EBJ? Maybe i dont understand the question.

[dervishx5]

He sees the Missile pod on the LT as a liability. Which it is. But it will probably receive the same treatment as the Mad Cat's ears. Thanks to ED I doubt we'll see many missile variants. Well, in the hands of good pilots anyway...

[Mazzyplz]

yes it will be about the same size as ebon jag - revis is right.

[Agent1190]

Nah,

1. you'll get +20 torso structure to compensate.
2. The missile pod won't be there if you don't mount a missile weapon in the torso.

[Mazzyplz]

besides people ask for high mounted weapons and when they get them they say oh but this is a liability!!!

xD make up your minds. this is probably more good than it is bad for the pilot

[Metus regem]

Sader325, on 07 September 2016 - 09:09 AM, said:

So how does this thing lose its side torso.

How do you deal with that missile launcher?

It's gonna be kinda ackward if that missile launcher counts as side torso, or gets blown off when you hit the bottom of the side torso.

Same way a Crab, Marauder or Stalker does, with an attack from 90 degrees left or right...

But seriously, that LT missile launcher will not be used in most cases, and as with all mechs with dumb-namic hard points, it is doubtful that the missile pod will be located on mechs not using it.

Case in point, the laser vomit Timber Wolf, or the dakka mauler, both lack their missile ears.

Mazzyplz, on 07 September 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

yes it will be about the same size as ebon jag - revis is right.

Why do people think a 55t medium will be about the same size as a 65t heavy... if anything it will be a slightly larger crab... and by slightly, I mean by 10% more total volume over the Crab...

[Mazzyplz]

because 55 ton mechs in this game aren't exactly the size you claim they are.
look at the ones in the game.

10% bigger than crab? i think not! even the trebuchet is huge

and that's only 50t

[Revis Volek]

Metus regem, on 07 September 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:

Same way a Crab, Marauder or Stalker does, with an attack from 90 degrees left or right...

But seriously, that LT missile launcher will not be used in most cases, and as with all mechs with dumb-namic hard points, it is doubtful that the missile pod will be located on mechs not using it.

Case in point, the laser vomit Timber Wolf, or the dakka mauler, both lack their missile ears.




Why do people think a 55t medium will be about the same size as a 65t heavy... if anything it will be a slightly larger crab... and by slightly, I mean by 10% more total volume over the Crab...

Do a visual comparison yourself, whats the Avg height of mechs in the game?


I dont see it being any smaller in height or even length, just less girth, more spindly legs and arms and a lot slimmer in the torso but i dont think its gonna be a huge change from the EBJ.

Aside from no clan tech...duh.


and yea, no one is using that missle LT hardpoint.

Edited by Revis Volek, 07 September 2016 - 09:33 AM.

[Metus regem]

Mazzyplz, on 07 September 2016 - 09:29 AM, said:

because 55 ton mechs in this game aren't exactly the size you claim they are.
look at the ones in the game.

10% bigger than crab? i think not! even the trebuchet is huge

and that's only 50t

The Crab and Bushy are both aero-form body styles, meaning they are longer than they are tall, like the Ebon Jaguar or Marauder. Is the Marauder as tall as a Black Knight, Orion or Timber Wolf? They are the same weight class (75t) after all...

With PGI's recent change to volumetric scaling means that all mechs are the same "size" even if they are not the same shape. In other words a Crab has the same volume as a Centurion, Hunchback, Enforcer or Nova, even if they are not all the same shape.

[Mazzyplz]

but the crab is undersized. has always been. and they never fixed it when they rescaled everything

they also didn't fix treb. which shoulda become smaller

[0bsidion]

Mazzyplz, on 07 September 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

yes it will be about the same size as ebon jag - revis is right.

The STs on the EBJ are much thicker due to those intake looking things. Head on, if that orthos is any indication the BSW is going to have much smaller STs. The biggest ST target will be that missile rack, from the front anyway, I'm guessing.

[dervishx5]

Mazzyplz, on 07 September 2016 - 09:21 AM, said:

yes it will be about the same size as ebon jag - revis is right.

Props to the Final Fantasy 6 though

[Clownwarlord]

Sader325, on 07 September 2016 - 09:09 AM, said:

So how does this thing lose its side torso.

How do you deal with that missile launcher?

It's gonna be kinda ackward if that missile launcher counts as side torso, or gets blown off when you hit the bottom of the side torso.

It has no side torsos, it has two arms a center torso that the arm plug into, and two legs plugged into the box below the CT.

[KHETTI]

Its going to be a slightly taller and skinnier Stormcrow, it also has the potential to be XL friendly.

[FupDup]

This looks to be another case where either the CT will be too big or the ST's will be too big. Either one would cripple the mech.

[Khobai]

anyone buying this is wasting their money

mixed loadout mechs are going to be extremely bad with energy draw

which is a shame because the bushwhacker is supposed to be one of the pinnacle examples of a mixed loadout being successful

Edited by Khobai, 07 September 2016 - 10:50 AM.

[jaxjace]

Khobai, on 07 September 2016 - 10:49 AM, said:

anyone buying this is wasting their money

mixed loadout mechs are going to be extremely bad with energy draw

which is a shame because the bushwhacker is supposed to be one of the pinnacle examples of a mixed loadout being successful

Then lets hope that energy draw crashes and burns.

[Khobai]

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Then lets hope that energy draw crashes and burns.

I hope that every day.

As much as I dislike ghost heat, I would much rather have a revamped version of ghost heat rather than energy draw.

yes ghost heat is more complicated and harder to understand, but at least it encourages different weapon types and allows mixed loadouts to function.