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[Myantra]

TercieI, on 20 September 2016 - 06:04 AM, said:

At PC now...my dakka 3 and dual 10 based 4 both run a 380, my Spirit Bear and Wub-2 both use the 400 (need the last DHS). For Gauss/PPC, I think I'd use 390-395. You can get FF and use all the tonnage and space that way and be cool enough.

My thinking had mostly revolved around buying as few XL engines as possible, but I have the C-Bills to spare to try it. I will try it out when I get home. I can live with -2 kph for +3.5 tons.

[TercieI]

Myantra, on 20 September 2016 - 06:24 AM, said:

My thinking had mostly revolved around buying as few XL engines as possible, but I have the C-Bills to spare to try it. I will try it out when I get home. I can live with -2 kph for +3.5 tons.

That's completely fair. I just always think in terms of "really optimized" when discussing builds.

[Myantra]

TercieI, on 20 September 2016 - 06:26 AM, said:

That's completely fair. I just always think in terms of "really optimized" when discussing builds.

Indeed. I spend more time in the dakka or LBX loadout anyway. I like to push, and I hate pushing with anything that has gauss rifles. It is like a bomb in my torso that the enemy can easily detonate when I use them.

[W Ventilator]

Any better?

KDK-3

[TercieI]

W Ventilator, on 20 September 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:

Any better?

KDK-3

Better, yes, though you are missing CT armor, 45 shots is more than you'll need I think and you don't need that DHS in the engine for just LBXs either. The more I've thought about it, the more inclined I am to add some lasers and run it like this.

[W Ventilator]

TercieI, on 20 September 2016 - 10:38 AM, said:

Better, yes, though you are missing CT armor, 45 shots is more than you'll need I think and you don't need that DHS in the engine for just LBXs either. The more I've thought about it, the more inclined I am to add some lasers and run it like this.

Thanks for the continued feedback!

As far as the Kodiak, if I ever get one, I'm thinking of going LB-10-X x 4, and that is pretty well a great build, I'm thinking, at least on paper.

The mech I'm waiting for is the MAD-IIC; that said, not sure when it's going to be smurfable...

[TercieI]

W Ventilator, on 20 September 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Thanks for the continued feedback!

As far as the Kodiak, if I ever get one, I'm thinking of going LB-10-X x 4, and that is pretty well a great build, I'm thinking, at least on paper.

The mech I'm waiting for is the MAD-IIC; that said, not sure when it's going to be smurfable...

Welcome. I run 2UAC10s, 2UAC5s and 2MPLs on my KDK-3. Better assault players than me seem to favor 2Gauss/2ERPPC, but I'm mediocre with Gauss. And who knows what will work if ED goes live?

Not before release day, Smurfy pulls directly from game files.

[W Ventilator]

TercieI, on 20 September 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:

Welcome. I run 2UAC10s, 2UAC5s and 2MPLs on my KDK-3. Better assault players than me seem to favor 2Gauss/2ERPPC, but I'm mediocre with Gauss. And who knows what will work if ED goes live?

Not before release day, Smurfy pulls directly from game files.

K, thanks; and also, thanks for the continued discussion of the KDK and its varants, it's really helping me figure out what I would do if I ever get one.

[Myantra]

TercieI, on 20 September 2016 - 10:38 AM, said:

Better, yes, though you are missing CT armor, 45 shots is more than you'll need I think and you don't need that DHS in the engine for just LBXs either. The more I've thought about it, the more inclined I am to add some lasers and run it like this.

Ditto on the engine DHS. When I have used it, 4 LBX10's and no heatsinks only overheats on Therma, and that is after sustained fire.

[Myantra]

TercieI, on 20 September 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:

Welcome. I run 2UAC10s, 2UAC5s and 2MPLs on my KDK-3. Better assault players than me seem to favor 2Gauss/2ERPPC, but I'm mediocre with Gauss. And who knows what will work if ED goes live?

Not before release day, Smurfy pulls directly from game files.

I have had success and fun in the solo queue with 2 gauss / 2 PPC, but definitely cannot play it like dakka. In the group queue, it gets focused too quickly and cannot fight back effectively when a crit to those gauss rifles blows out your ST's. I always feel like I am wasting a 100-ton Mech built for spamming dakka if I am not spamming dakka.

[Mike Oakenwall - the khadoran]

justcallme A S H, on 18 September 2016 - 11:29 PM, said:

I'm T1 - as you can see under my name.

So yeah I don't talk sh1t and I can keep posting screenshots if you want?
KDK3, 1k damage / KDK2, killer king and a KDK4 on in there as well for laughs (Guass/4cLPL)


I've got more and I have no doubt I could generate a few more if I take the KDKs for a run in QPs.

To be perfectly honest, my post is more about "you can get 1k with ur eyes closed" kind of statement than your personal performance. Its about the mech im talking about, not you as a pilot, who may well be really good and would probably get same result in a banshee or whatever.

It stil ******** that its common people get that kind of score, because iif thats the case i would seen it, played a lot of mechwarrior last week..

Edited by Mike Oakenwall - the khadoran, 20 September 2016 - 11:55 AM.

[TercieI]

Myantra, on 20 September 2016 - 11:06 AM, said:

I have had success and fun in the solo queue with 2 gauss / 2 PPC, but definitely cannot play it like dakka. In the group queue, it gets focused too quickly and cannot fight back effectively when a crit to those gauss rifles blows out your ST's. I always feel like I am wasting a 100-ton Mech built for spamming dakka if I am not spamming dakka.

That's kinda how I feel but it's not my strong suit and really good assault pilots do amazing stuff with gauss/PPCs in any setting (including very high levels of comp).

[Myantra]

TercieI, on 20 September 2016 - 12:00 PM, said:

That's kinda how I feel but it's not my strong suit and really good assault pilots do amazing stuff with gauss/PPCs in any setting (including very high levels of comp).

I struggle to find an assault I like enough to master. So far, Executioner and Kodiak are all I have bothered with. Gauss/PPC or Gauss/ER Med just feel so right in the Executioner.

[justcallme A S H]

The LBX40 is very lacklustre compared to UAC5/10. Be prepared to do. Whole loss less damage/component strip/chill earning.

The spread is big at its max effective range so in firing you're not as pinpoint, to get it there you need to get closer and the 3 has no agility quirks. Better off running LBX on the agility variants so you can twist and smiled better u till the right time to strike is there.

[TercieI]

justcallme A S H, on 20 September 2016 - 04:09 PM, said:

The LBX40 is very lacklustre compared to UAC5/10. Be prepared to do. Whole loss less damage/component strip/chill earning.

The spread is big at its max effective range so in firing you're not as pinpoint, to get it there you need to get closer and the 3 has no agility quirks. Better off running LBX on the agility variants so you can twist and smiled better u till the right time to strike is there.

For the record, I agree with this. I basically view it as a novelty build or as a potential option under ED. I can't see any real advantage over DAKKA.

[Devil Fox]

I've only begun levelling my kodiak's... and I love the KDK-SB as a psuedo Atlas as I begun to only really play clan mechs... but I am now seeing why everyone complains about the KDK-3, and this was just 2 UAC5/10's and 4 ERSL as back up.



Struggling to find a build on the KDK-2 that isn't Guass/2ERPPC.

[Penrose Willoughby]

I run a KDK-3 w/ xl400 engine, 2uac5, 2uac10. Loaded up with ammo & 3 dhs in the engine.

I've only been playing 3 weeks or so, and I'm only tier 4, but I pretty regularly get 750+ damage in it. I've had a fair few 1000+ matches.

If I charge out like an idiot into the open I usually end up with 250-500 damage, which is incredible for playing badly. Of course I do have the occasional match with less than 200 damage if I charge into a terrible situation...
If I am patient I get good matches with 750+ damage. I'd say I get over 750 about half the time.

All this is to say the kodiak 3 isn't overrated. It really is absurdly good, maybe it's fair to say it's OP. Because I am not a very good player, unlike Mr. MyNameIs who probably could pull 1000+ damage in whatever mech he wants.

[Arugela]

Here is Gaussie bear if nobody has put up the Quad gauss setup. It has a different engine but It's a 300STD only costing 1.9 million.

Gaussie the Bear max ammo version

I'm running this currently and easily get 400-500 damage a match.

Edited by Arugela, 26 October 2016 - 04:20 AM.