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#1 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 12:47 PM

Do you have all cores unlocked?

do you also have something that can minitor PC performance?

Honestly that chip can handles this game.

what's your ram?

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 17 September 2016 - 12:51 PM.


#2 Peter2k

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 12:55 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 17 September 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Do you have all cores unlocked?

do you also have something that can minitor PC performance?

Honestly that chip can handles this game.

what's your ram?


The integrated GPU and it's drivers will be the problem

#3 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 12:59 PM

View PostPeter2k, on 17 September 2016 - 12:55 PM, said:

The integrated GPU and it's drivers will be the problem

I figured. If he got a good graphics card then I think he should be good to go. If everything reads right.

Just be sure to monitor your PC performance, when running games to get an accurate picture of what is causing the problem

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 17 September 2016 - 01:00 PM.


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Posted 17 September 2016 - 01:00 PM

View PostJM Gurgeh, on 17 September 2016 - 12:53 PM, said:

I think so, windows task manager shows 4 cores (this Intel i5 has 2 cores with hyper threading).


My advise would be to try different driver versions
Found something online
From a gamer crashing on his Iris pro in Skyrim and other games

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Thanks all for your inputs! It seems indeed that using the previous latest Intel driver fixed the multiple crashes, or at least alleviates them a lot. I'm going to do some more tests, just to see how stable is that driver. However, I'm afraid that the Iris 540 stability can drastically during a driver update. You would expect things to get better as a new driver is released, which is not the case.

Edited by Peter2k, 17 September 2016 - 01:02 PM.


#5 zagibu

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 01:17 PM

Maybe an external video card could be a solution.

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 02:11 PM

View Postzagibu, on 17 September 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:

Maybe an external video card could be a solution.

It would be

If his NUC has thunderbolt 3

However those solutions tend to be on the expensive side, then still adding the cost of the graphics card itself

Actually the graphics card enclosure would be bigger then the nuc itself

Frankly when you consider cost and space
you're better off building a micro atx system from scratch at that point on

External graphics card I'd consider kinda ok value if you have to keep a mobile gaming system for some reason
A nuc is still stationary :-)

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 02:22 PM

Or with a lot of tinkering

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I think I saw some project that are using the M2 pcie slot that come in the new nuc's to hook in the graphics card

But obviously it's all not attractive to look at

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 03:03 PM

View PostJM Gurgeh, on 17 September 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

I have a new Intel NUC i5 (NUC6I5SYH) with Intel Iris Graphics 540. MWO runs with low or medium graphics settings with good framerate. Windows 7 x64.

It constantly crashes. 80%: before or after the combat (mechlab/map loading/drop prepare), 20% in combat.
Screen freezes, mouse freezes, sound: some loud noise. No chance to get back to the windows desktop screen. Have to power off/on the system. Very annoying.

I also created a thread at the intel community, because I am not sure if it is a game or hardware issue.
https://communities....m/thread/106439

Up to date drivers and BIOS is installed.

Any hints?

The usual suspects are sound card and video card drivers, direct X mode can also be an issue. Mouse drivers if the mouse and or controler is a multi-function one. Back off your video settings via the driver control panel. Do the normal house cleaning, defrag, disable unneeded app's, virus and ad-ware scans. Free up hard drive space. Remove and reinstall the game app if running the stand alone client. See how close to 1% you can get the CPU usage before the game is started.

Check you system logs for indications in the system management console. Set the game app to be played as administer.

BIGGIE ISSUE:

Document all setting prior to making any changes and what you changed them to in case you need to change them back.

Connection speed issue can contribute check out Dr TCP/IP http://www.dslreports.com/tools as well as DNSBench https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm


Document document document rinse and repeat.


Hope this helps.

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 06:32 PM

I'm amazed that the game runs on the NUC at all. I may have to get one for experimentation.

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 07:10 PM

Why do people insist on running PC games on Amazon Fire Sticks?

Please buy or use a real game rig to play PC games. If you're doing for the lulz, fine,whatever. If you bought it with the intentions of gaming... Ummm I won't go there.




#11 xWiredx

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 07:23 PM

Agree - there is very little point in even attempting to play more intensive games on things like NUCs. You already know (or should know) that it isn't meant for that. If you try and it has problems, you simply cease doing it. You know, the right tool for the job and all that.

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 08:37 PM

View PostPeter2k, on 17 September 2016 - 02:22 PM, said:

Or with a lot of tinkering

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I think I saw some project that are using the M2 pcie slot that come in the new nuc's to hook in the graphics card

But obviously it's all not attractive to look at

speaking from 1st hand experience when using a PCI-E extension, go with a quality 3m one, they are around $100. If you go with the cheaper non shielded style for around $20, you will run into all kinds of problems. You can look up my Custom wall mount computer I built, using the 3m extension and it has never blue screened me yet. Prices sucks, quality is right on Posted Image

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Edited by Bill Lumbar, 17 September 2016 - 08:39 PM.


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Posted 17 September 2016 - 09:14 PM

View PostBill Lumbar, on 17 September 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

speaking from 1st hand experience when using a PCI-E extension, go with a quality 3m one, they are around $100. If you go with the cheaper non shielded style for around $20, you will run into all kinds of problems. You can look up my Custom wall mount computer I built, using the 3m extension and it has never blue screened me yet. Prices sucks, quality is right on Posted Image

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Do as Bill says if you go this route. He does not fk around.

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Posted 17 September 2016 - 09:51 PM

This is a review from Newegg regarding Thermaltakes wall mount Computer case. The riser extension they use in this model is $hit. Cheap ones will fail, will cause major drops in performance. 3m ones are the only way to go if you plan on going this route.







Posted ImageGreat Layout, Terrible PCI-E Riser Card, AGAIN!



This review is from: Thermaltake Core P3 Snow ATX Open Frame Panoramic Viewing Tt LCS Certified Gaming Computer Case CA-1G4-00M6WN-00



[color=#222222]Pros:[/color] Great open, unique design. Much lighter and noticeably smaller than my Core P5. The metal is thick and has a reinforced frame inside the back panel for VESA mounting. Lots of room for cable management back there as well. Unlike the Core P5, you WILL be able to use your All in One liquid coolers with the standard 12' hoses as they will easily stretch over to the radiator/fan mounting on the right side of the case.


[color=#222222]Cons:[/color] Again, Thermaltake is bundling their garbage PCI-E Riser cards with this case. The one that came with my Core P5 died within a month and this one was DOA. I strongly encourage anyone buying this not to get your hopes up about mounting your GPU upright with that riser card. Why Thermaltake thinks its acceptable to continue to include these with the Core P5 and Core P3 is unacceptably irresponsible considering all the negative feedback on numerous sites. I had to hastle calling and emailing them last time around to slow responses and dont plan on bothering again. I will order a different aftermarket one somewhere else.


[color=#222222]Other Thoughts:[/color] Its a cool looking case. Great cable management, nice tempered glass etc.. But Thermaltake, do your loyal customers a solid and get some quality PCI-E Riser Cards to go with these cases. You aren't making any new friends.


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Posted 17 September 2016 - 11:27 PM

View PostJM Gurgeh, on 17 September 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

I have a new Intel NUC i5 (NUC6I5SYH) with Intel Iris Graphics 540. MWO runs with low or medium graphics settings with good framerate. Windows 7 x64.

It constantly crashes. 80%: before or after the combat (mechlab/map loading/drop prepare), 20% in combat.
Screen freezes, mouse freezes, sound: some loud noise. No chance to get back to the windows desktop screen. Have to power off/on the system. Very annoying.

I also created a thread at the intel community, because I am not sure if it is a game or hardware issue.
https://communities....m/thread/106439

Up to date drivers and BIOS is installed.

Any hints?

This is hardware problem most likely - such thing usually happens, when your video driver crashes and can't recover. This may happen due to: buggy driver, overheat, overclocking, chip defect. In order to better localize problem - see windows error log (Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Event Viewer - > Error). Look for errors, that happen at exact moment, when MWO hangs.
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Posted 18 September 2016 - 02:13 AM

View PostJM Gurgeh, on 17 September 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

I have a new Intel NUC i5 (NUC6I5SYH) with Intel Iris Graphics 540. MWO runs with low or medium graphics settings with good framerate. Windows 7 x64.

It constantly crashes. 80%: before or after the combat (mechlab/map loading/drop prepare), 20% in combat.
Screen freezes, mouse freezes, sound: some loud noise. No chance to get back to the windows desktop screen. Have to power off/on the system. Very annoying.

I also created a thread at the intel community, because I am not sure if it is a game or hardware issue.
https://communities....m/thread/106439

Up to date drivers and BIOS is installed.

Any hints?


Most likely overheating... check thermals





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