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#1 Scipio

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 01:38 AM

I can make a joke on TS about what I'll get on opening a Supply Cache by picking the least expensive item.. and I'll get that item. And that item is one away from the most expensive item... So if your crate contains a mech and a SRM 4.. you will get the SRM 4.. which will be between that mech and 2 mech bays.

So why do you bother Piranha with this at all? If you are scamming us, don't you feel a little ashamed?

It's not a 1 in 8 chance to win anything in the crate is it? It's on some kind of State Fair Carney odds? Where you toss in the ball to win the 5 foot tall rabbit, and spend $15.. and you get a 3" chew toy?

Would South Park call Shenanigans on this? I think they would. If you need the money so badly.. why not just tell us upfront and skip all of the nonsense with this scam?

Sincerely, proud new owner of a SRM 4, 6, IS pulse laser, 3 small rocks and a lint bunny.

#2 Yellonet

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 01:40 AM

Not much of a scam unless someone never heard of a lottery before.

What we don't know is the probability for each item in the crate, so we would have to assume that there is a steep curve of getting the better items, take a mech for instance, it will probably be done so that the chance to get a mech will on average take more MC worth of keys than MC to buy said mech.

Edited by Yellonet, 30 July 2016 - 01:46 AM.


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Posted 30 July 2016 - 01:57 AM

One of my friends opened his first crate, today.

He won a mechbay and was pretty happy about it.

Before you open a crate, you have to ask yourself one question:

"Do I feel lucky?"

Well, do 'ya, punk?

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#4 El Bandito

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 01:59 AM

Less scam than the regular lottery or casino, I think. And a lot of people play lottery and/or casino, spending even more money, for nothing in return.

#5 TheLuc

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:06 AM

Its gambling in the end and like El Bandito wrote less of a scam than lottery or the casino.

But still paying real money for stuff you can buy with CBills or get just by playing, really not worth it.

supply caches are only good for selling them for that 50k.

#6 Weeny Machine

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:23 AM

I open caches only with free keys. You see, there is no problem for me then.

#7 Hit the Deck

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:27 AM

RNGesus, making people mad since forever.

#8 Satan n stuff

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:32 AM

View PostHit the Deck, on 30 July 2016 - 02:27 AM, said:

RNGesus, making people mad since forever.

Relevant as ever.


#9 Steve Pryde

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:32 AM

Well, it's an easy way to get c-bills, nothing more. Last opened cache I got a 360-degree target module and sold it for 3mio c-bills.

But without empty mechbays c-bills are pretty much worthless.

Edited by Steve Pryde, 30 July 2016 - 02:34 AM.


#10 B L O O D W I T C H

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:41 AM

If you think 25 mc is a scam, pff. you almost always get back in c-bills, to a much better rate then actual c-bills bundles or resellable mechs.

Try 5-10 $ rng crates in archeage for example, then you can feel scammed.

#11 Weeny Machine

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:45 AM

View PostToha Heavy Industries, on 30 July 2016 - 02:41 AM, said:

If you think 25 mc is a scam, pff. you almost always get back in c-bills, to a much better rate then actual c-bills bundles or resellable mechs.

Try 5-10 $ rng crates in archeage for example, then you can feel scammed.


If you are patient, you do not need CBs

#12 El Bandito

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:10 AM

View PostBush Hopper, on 30 July 2016 - 02:45 AM, said:

If you are patient, you do not need CBs


Same can be said of most F2P games, but then those games would die off if everyone is patient. Pay for convenience is a thing. After all, every moment of life can be measured with money.

#13 Davers

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:18 AM

Not a scam at all, if you are familiar with the concept of gambling.

#14 TWIAFU

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:21 AM

View PostToha Heavy Industries, on 30 July 2016 - 02:41 AM, said:

If you think 25 mc is a scam, pff. you almost always get back in c-bills, to a much better rate then actual c-bills bundles or resellable mechs.

Try 5-10 $ rng crates in archeage for example, then you can feel scammed.


Well now, it is gambling, a scam, ripoff, whatever only because that person did not get exactly what they wanted out of the box.

Go read the posts. Majority are; "I wanted the MC/Mech Bay/Mech and I got something else. It's gambling, scam, ripoff, whatever."

#15 Brother MEX

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:29 AM

View PostTheLuc, on 30 July 2016 - 02:06 AM, said:

Its gambling in the end and like El Bandito wrote less of a scam than lottery or the casino.

But still paying real money for stuff you can buy with CBills or get just by playing, really not worth it.

supply caches are only good for selling them for that 50k.
NO ... the 50k you get for a supply cache are the REAL SCAM ! Posted Image

You should get 1-9 for each supply cache you sell, so that you are able to buy a supply key for selling 3-25 supply caches !
I think 5 would be a FAIR PRICE for each supply cache you sell, so that you can get a supply key for selling 5 supply caches.

#16 B L O O D W I T C H

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:41 AM

View PostBush Hopper, on 30 July 2016 - 02:45 AM, said:


If you are patient, you do not need CBs


But if i got something better to do with my life, i simply buy some MC and support the game on the way.

View PostBrother MEX, on 30 July 2016 - 03:29 AM, said:

NO ... the 50k you get for a supply cache are the REAL SCAM ! Posted Image

You should get 1-9 for each supply cache you sell, so that you are able to buy a supply key for selling 3-25 supply caches !
I think 5 would be a FAIR PRICE for each supply cache you sell, so that you can get a supply key for selling 5 supply caches.


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Edited by Toha Heavy Industries, 30 July 2016 - 03:43 AM.


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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:49 AM

View PostToha Heavy Industries, on 30 July 2016 - 03:41 AM, said:

But if i got something better to do with my life, i simply buy some MC and support the game on the way.
IF I got something better to do with my life, I would stop playing MW0 Posted Image

#18 smokefield

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:49 AM

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RNGesus


thing is...its not random. its actually a controlled randomness there, anyone who knows a little about slot machines knows what that is.

#19 Satan n stuff

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 03:50 AM

View PostBrother MEX, on 30 July 2016 - 03:29 AM, said:

NO ... the 50k you get for a supply cache are the REAL SCAM ! Posted Image

You should get 1-9 for each supply cache you sell, so that you are able to buy a supply key for selling 3-25 supply caches !
I think 5 would be a FAIR PRICE for each supply cache you sell, so that you can get a supply key for selling 5 supply caches.

In most F2P games you have the choice between opening the thing or destroying it to free up inventory space, be grateful that you can sell them at all.

#20 LordNothing

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 04:24 AM

not a very good one, you cant even get the damn things if you wanted to buy keys and spin em. then the very low odds make me not want to.

Edited by LordNothing, 30 July 2016 - 04:25 AM.






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