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[MNML86]

Hello, everyone I was just thinking are there any more new timelines, content, etc after Era report 3145?

The story line seems to be hanging for quite sometime.

I know after the Fedcom Civil War the next big event is the Jihad, then formation of the Republic of the Sphere and its dissolution during which we enter the Dark Ages story line, which has been quite dead. Even MW5 is set during the Sucession Wars. The game by Harebrained Schemes is also the same, set in the past.

They are beating the cash cow dead with bats.

Is there any plan to continue or 3145 is basically the end. The story at 3145 is basically a huge cliffhanger, no updates until now.

Edited by MNML86, 06 April 2017 - 11:23 PM.

[Juodas Varnas]

If it was up to me, we would have never moved past 3025

[Requiemking]

Juodas Varnas, on 06 April 2017 - 11:32 PM, said:

If it was up to me, we would have never moved past 3025

So? Star League era tech unbalanced the game in the 3020s, just like how Clans unbalanced the game in the 3050s. There is always a lack of proper balance, its just a matter of how much, and to which side it is skewed.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

I wish they would continue Dark Age.... I want to know what happens with my favorite character Alaric Ward after he annouces his claim for the Lyran throne by being Katrina son (something weird that my favorite and previous favorite Phelan Kell are both Inner Sphere who end up in Clan Wolf ruling.)

[Pika]

Requiemking, on 06 April 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

So? Star League era tech unbalanced the game in the 3020s, just like how Clans unbalanced the game in the 3050s. There is always a lack of proper balance, its just a matter of how much, and to which side it is skewed.

No matter what era you play there is always someone waving their cane around shouting about how things were back in their day.

To answer the question though: Was confirmed at MechCon that there is a new era coming "soon" and the Dark Age ending, which, if rumours are to be believed, is a "new" clan invasion from the homworlds or the Sphere Clans decided "Actually you know what, sod it, were trying to take earth again."

Edited by Pika, 06 April 2017 - 11:39 PM.

[El Bandito]

Requiemking, on 06 April 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

So? Star League era tech unbalanced the game in the 3020s, just like how Clans unbalanced the game in the 3050s. There is always a lack of proper balance, its just a matter of how much, and to which side it is skewed.

3025 tech is much easier to balance. Which is the point. However, due to the limited gameplay of MWO, and the lack of imagination on PGI's part, the game would die off if the tech was only limited to that timeline.

[Juodas Varnas]

Requiemking, on 06 April 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

So? Star League era tech unbalanced the game in the 3020s, just like how Clans unbalanced the game in the 3050s. There is always a lack of proper balance, its just a matter of how much, and to which side it is skewed.

There is no Star League tech in 3020s.
XL engines, Goose waffles, AMS, et cetera came about in 3040s.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 06 April 2017 - 11:39 PM.

[Requiemking]

Pika, on 06 April 2017 - 11:38 PM, said:

No matter what era you play there is always someone waving their cane around shouting about how things were back in their day.

To answer the question though: Was confirmed at MechCon that there is a new era coming "soon" and the Dark Age ending, which, if rumours are to be believed, is a "new" clan invasion from the homworlds or the Sphere Clans decided "Actually you know what, sod it, were trying to take earth again."

Well, there was Operation Bulldog/Task Force Serpent, the Fedcom Civil war, and of course, the Jihad.

Juodas Varnas, on 06 April 2017 - 11:39 PM, said:

There is no Star League tech in 3020s.
XL engines, Goose waffles, AMS, et cetera came about in 3040s.

Oh, there was. It was just supremely rare.

Edited by Requiemking, 06 April 2017 - 11:42 PM.

[Pika]

El Bandito, on 06 April 2017 - 11:39 PM, said:

3025 tech is much easier to balance. Which is the point. However, due to the limited gameplay of MWO, and the lack of imagination on PGI's part, the game would die off if the tech was only limited to that timeline.

Pft, no. It's as equally hard. Everyone would just boat up on AC20s and take their ammo explosions like a man. Sometimes you pop, sometimes you cause the pop. It'd be astounding average, just like 3025 TT, there would be nothing to it but lucky ammo\head hits with AC20s.

Unless you play stock in which case you end up with a load of usless 'Mechs (Lookin' at you, Clint!)

Edited by Pika, 06 April 2017 - 11:45 PM.

[Requiemking]

Pika, on 06 April 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

Pft, no. It's as equally hard. Everyone would just boat up on AC20s and take their ammo explosions like a man. Sometimes you pop, sometimes you cause the pop. It'd be astounding average, just like 3025 TT, there would be nothing to it but lucky ammo\head hits with AC20s.

Unless you play stock in which case you end up with a load of usless 'Mechs (Lookin' at you, Clint!)

My TT group uses massed PPC fire(Standard PPCs, thank you very much). A lot safer than ACs, albeit, we only really have two per mech, my Awesome notwithstanding.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

Juodas Varnas, on 06 April 2017 - 11:39 PM, said:

There is no Star League tech in 3020s.
XL engines, Goose waffles, AMS, et cetera came about in 3040s.

the war of 3039... XL engines (3035), Gauss (3040), AMS (3040), DHS (3030). Also being technical about it but ALL Star League technology existed in 3020s but the evil Blakists were hiding/hoarding it as part of their long term plans of having the Successor States batter themselves insensate so then the Blakists could reconquer the Inner Sphere. If the Helm Memory Core had not been found and then the subsequent Clan invasion not happened... then the evil Blakists would have eventually pulled it off.

[El Bandito]

Pika, on 06 April 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

Pft, no. It's as equally hard. Everyone would just boat up on AC20s and take their ammo explosions like a man. Sometimes you pop, sometimes you cause the pop. It'd be astounding average, just like 3025 TT, there would be nothing to it but lucky ammo\head hits with AC20s.

Unless you play stock in which case you end up with a load of usless 'Mechs (Lookin' at you, Clint!)

No, it will be easier. AC20 could be made with stream-fire like that of Clan ACs--hell, all MW cinematics had the AC20 fire in bursts. It can work, just requires imagination. Clan tech however, opened up a whole bag of bulldung, cause they were intentionally unbalanced from the get go--which is why they are harder to balance. And thanks to the dunderhead that PGI has as Balance Director, the issue is still not resolved 3 years later.

Edited by El Bandito, 06 April 2017 - 11:51 PM.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

El Bandito, on 06 April 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

No, it will be easier. AC20 could be made with stream-fire like that of Clan ACs--hell, all MW cinematics had the AC20 fire in bursts. It can work, just requires imagination. Clan tech however, opened up a whole bag of bulldung, cause they were intentionally unbalanced from the get go--which is why they are harder to balance.

then i want to use a Defiance 'Mech Hunter AC/20 so that I get a single solid projectile... you can have the Crusher SH Canon AC/20 which fires 10 shells, deal????

[Pika]

El Bandito, on 06 April 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

No, it will be easier. AC20 could be made with stream-fire like that of Clan ACs--hell, all MW cinematics had the AC20 fire in bursts. It can work, just requires imagination. Clan tech however, opened up a whole bag of bulldung, cause they were intentionally unbalanced from the get go--which is why they are harder to balance. And thanks to the dunderhead that PGI has as Balance Director, the issue is still not resolved 3 years later.

You know everyone talks about all these imbalances in TT when the clans came around but the local meta around these parts just shifted and it was never an issue again. People would take mixed lists (Clan and IS 'Mechs in the same list, I know, I know. Heresy and all that but hey, it worked), would use Zell, would take lots of cheapo IS 'Mechs and just swarm. The biggest factor that everyone and their dog overlooked at first was piloting\gunnery skill. Jack that gunner up and take your BV cost hit. Suddenly clan 'Tech in TT ain't all that hot. It still melts under PPC\AC20 fire like anything else.

Edited by Pika, 07 April 2017 - 12:01 AM.

[El Bandito]

Pika, on 06 April 2017 - 11:58 PM, said:

You know everyone talks about all these imbalances in TT when the clans came around but the local meta around these parts just shifted and it was never an issue again. People would take mixed lists (Clan and IS 'Mechs in the same list), would use Zell, would take lots of cheapo IS 'Mechs and just swarm. The biggest factor that everyone and their dog overlooked at first was piloting\gunnery skill. Jack that gunner up and take your BV cost hit. Suddenly clan 'Tech in TT ain't all that hot. It still melts under PPC\AC20 fire like anything else.

The issue with that is PGI had held up CW as the end game for everyone and held up that bone for 2 years while we waited. And PGI's CW does not offer mixed tech. Zellbrigen is something that simply does not work for this type of game--as the participants are less keen to follow the rule as neckbearded TT players. Asymmetrical balance such as 10v12 causes more issues than its worth, as proven by all other arena games using same number of participants per side. Same thing with Battle Value, as it will add more complication to the MM/meta calculation.

I_AM_ZUUL, on 06 April 2017 - 11:54 PM, said:

then i want to use a Defiance 'Mech Hunter AC/20 so that I get a single solid projectile... you can have the Crusher SH Canon AC/20 which fires 10 shells, deal????

Deal, as long as single fire AC20 knocks your mech down 50% of the time it fires.

Edited by El Bandito, 07 April 2017 - 12:27 AM.

[Vellron2005]

OK, so after reading a bit of this topic, I just can't resist the urge to think-up some "timeline facts" that would be cool..

These are totally made up, but would be cool if it happened..

3151 - In an attempt to return to former glory, Clan Jade Falcon scientists in the Eugenics program create a new super-human genome. called "Alpha Strain". This modification contains bits and pieces of the various blood-named warrior DNA, and the result is a stronger, faster, smarter humanoid, build and designed to make use of a new technology - Technomancy. This technology is based on a cybernetic implant that merges man and machine seamlessly, making a mech pilot's reactions and movement as fast as his natural movements, while also adding a significant boost to an Alpha strain subject's natural psychic abilities. This all results in a super-fast, super-strong and telepathic warrior capable of assaulting enemies both physically and mentally.

3154 - All new Jade Falcon warriors produced are using Alpha Strain. Mass production takes place, and soon, Alpha-men number in the millions. Alpha-men see themselves as superior in every way, and seek to take command away from Falcon leadership. In a daring raid, Alpha men assassinate the Khan, and their leader Zyon Prime becomes Khan. Non-alpha clansmen are reduces to second grade citizens. Many defect to other clans, and an underground splinter movement called "The Jaded" is formed on Strana Mechty.

3155 - Khan Zyon Prime announces the full scale production of a new Assault omnimech - the "Hammer". This mech is faster and better armed than any other assault mech in existence, and made to use technomancy. It's main strengths lies in it's maneuverability, while carrying a heavy weapon payload. "Hammers" are mass-produced, and soon, all the other great houses and clans fear it's name.

3156 - Members of "The Jaded" menage to steal plans of the Hammer mech, and smuggle it to Clan Wolf in Exile, from where, it gets distributed to most of the great Inner Sphere houses for analysis, only 4 months before..

3157 - ..Clan Jade Falcon's Khan Zyon launches a wide-spread invasion of the Inner Sphere, breaking any and all war conventions and treaties. He announces that "humans" are inferior, and should be purged from the sphere, or subjugated, clansmen and freebirth alike. This xenophobic stance leads to open warfare. Lyran Commonwealth is first to be attacked, followerd by Clan Wolf, and Clan Hell's Horses. The Falcons make quick progress, spreading like wildfire, and soon, Clan Wolf Khan is forced to petition for aid from the Great Houses of The Inner Sphere.

3158 - After loosing much ground to the Falcons, Khans from Clan Wolf and Clan Hell's Horses, and High nobles of the Lyran Commonwealth, Draconis Combine, Republic of the Sphere and the Federated Suns, along with representatives from all the other great houses and factions agree to meet on Terra to discuss the Jade Falcon invasion. An initiative called "The Terran Alliance" is formed, but just as the treaty of mutual joint-efforts and cooperation in the war against the Falcons is to be signed, an alpha-man disguised as a member of "The Jaded" dominates the minds of all present, and forces them to kill each other bare-handed. A great brawl ensues, and the last man standing, a Draconis Combine noble, snaps his own neck . This throws all the factions into chaos, as new leadership is needed to address the overbearing xenophobic Alpha-men of Clan Jade Falcon.

3159 - Clan Jade Falcon has spread like wildfire across the Inner Sphere. Many of the smaller factions have capitulated, deciding it's better to be slaves to the Alpha men than to die. Parts of the surviving houses and clans have formed "The Terran Alliance". After initial infighting, the right to lead has been decided by a Trial of Bloodright between the finest of all the candidates. The sole surviving candidate has become "Primus" - A man named Tyron Khall - a freeborn Clan Wolf Bondsman from the disputed regions. Tyron is given a heavy task - Lead the united factions of the Terran Alliance and defend the Inner Sphere against the threat of Clan Jade Falcon..

Aaaaaaaand... Que Mechwarrior "NEXT"

[Carl Vickers]

And what we have above is yet another reason to nuke the btech universe into nothing.

Me, Id like to see the Minnesota Tribe invade.

[Valhallan]

Lies, we all know that everyone is waiting for the bird aliens from far country to invade (with the jade turkeys joining them out of worship )

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Pika, on 06 April 2017 - 11:58 PM, said:

You know everyone talks about all these imbalances in TT when the clans came around but the local meta around these parts just shifted and it was never an issue again. People would take mixed lists (Clan and IS 'Mechs in the same list, I know, I know. Heresy and all that but hey, it worked), would use Zell, would take lots of cheapo IS 'Mechs and just swarm. The biggest factor that everyone and their dog overlooked at first was piloting\gunnery skill. Jack that gunner up and take your BV cost hit. Suddenly clan 'Tech in TT ain't all that hot. It still melts under PPC\AC20 fire like anything else.

Here's the thing... good for your local group. You actually have players that can restrict themselves, I'm impressed.

But most gamers, can't... and just load up the bullshits... crit hunting with x2 gauss ppc builds and the like.

[Skipmagnet]

Pssst, Carl: They joined ComStar in the 2900s. It's canon.