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[SmithMPBT]

I stopped playing World of Tanks on the X3 and X5 experience weekends cuz the matchmaker would stroke out and you'd end up with these same type of wipes consistently. They supposedly have a multi-million dollar patented matchmaker too, so ya gotta cut PGI a little slack.

Besides, World of Tanks only gave us some free XP, PGI is giving actual usable items, xp and ingame cash.

(I once had a 27 game losing streak in WoT)

[S 0 L E N Y A]

OPs video is complaining about PUGs being PUGs because of the event.

RIIIIGHT

[KodiakGW]

LordKnightFandragon, on 27 September 2016 - 11:50 AM, said:

Its PVEs fault; Cuz if we didnt have PVE the puggies could play PVP and git gud right?

??? Umm, we don't have PvE. But, we do have the Training session. Pretty much covers everything basic except shooting UAVs. Weapon ranges, grouping, targeting, movement. You know, everything you still see not happening in T1-2 games. Lack of hitting the R key, firing weapons beyond range, etc.

Don't need PvE to not be a suicide rush derp, block your team's shots, figure out why certain players say UAV and then shoot the glowing thing in the sky that doesn't have a blue dorito over it, etc.

[LordNothing]

if i shoot a ppc at someone 2k away, im just saying hi.

[Xmith]

QP is what it is.

I can not tell the difference from an event match from a non-event match. They both play and look the same every time.

[Tina Benoit]

We're listening and hearing the events feedback.
We understand the requests for less personal challenges to avoid the solo game-play behavior as well as the weekends-only theme.
We'll see what we can do to make October different and stand out from the last couple recent events.

We probably won't have an event this coming weekend, however as we plan ahead for Oct, I'll read up on Event Suggestion sub-forum at the same time. It's also nice to hear what you guys have enjoyed in the past to hear out what you found fun as well and push more towards that style.

Otherwise, brand new event ideas might be fun to try out as well. Your reactions and feedback will depend on if we will continue similar ones or try something new again.

[El Bandito]

Boogie138, on 27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM, said:

OPs video is complaining about PUGs being PUGs because of the event.

RIIIIGHT

OP is complaining about pugs being even more of ******* compared to their normal playstyle, during events. Which is very valid concern. During this event pugs were much more eager to hunt squirrels, instead of focusing on winning the game. I drop-called most of my matches, so I would know.

Tina Benoit, on 27 September 2016 - 03:41 PM, said:

We're listening and hearing the events feedback.
We understand the requests for less personal challenges to avoid the solo game-play behavior as well as the weekends-only theme.
We'll see what we can do to make October different and stand out from the last couple recent events.

We probably won't have an event this coming weekend, however as we plan ahead for Oct, I'll read up on Event Suggestion sub-forum at the same time. It's also nice to hear what you guys have enjoyed in the past to hear out what you found fun as well and push more towards that style.

Otherwise, brand new event ideas might be fun to try out as well. Your reactions and feedback will depend on if we will continue similar ones or try something new again.

Events focused on winning the match should help teamwork. Though I imagine some people would cry on the forums when they cannot seem to win.

Edited by El Bandito, 27 September 2016 - 04:58 PM.

[Deathlike]

El Bandito, on 27 September 2016 - 04:56 PM, said:

Events focused on winning the match should help teamwork. Though I imagine some people would cry on the forums when they cannot seem to win.

It doesn't really work "as is" though as we've seen that type of thing before. It was compounded worse when you had to live through the match.. which totally changes how people play.

The best you can ask for is something like this:
Get X amount of points (maybe 20 as an example)..
+1 for winning (because that matters)
+1 for achieving Y match points (aka doing your part)

That usually makes things easier for people to deal with.

You can even do something more expanded..
Get X amount of points (maybe 100 as an example)
+5 for winning
+2 for achieving Y match points
+1 for each KMDD
+1 for every 3 assists for that match

It's not that complicated, but apparently that thing that was done a while back is totally Lostech.

Edited by Deathlike, 27 September 2016 - 05:14 PM.

[JC Daxion]

You know, the last event, the one with the CW... i had more fun than i have had in a very long time.. Thought for the most part had great game play. We even ran PUG's against well known 12 mans,, and pulled out a few nail bitter wins verse them because we had some people take charge, and people actually listened to strats..


SOLO puglandia on the other hand has been horrible as of late..

[Gen82]

I like the events generally. Just not that 3rd person challenge. I also didn't play the FW one. I just play as normal, and strangely I didn't notice any different behavior in Solo Pugs and normal this time. Maybe that's just because they are always so derpy its hard to tell.

Don't do another personal challenge involving LRM's though. It gets irritating real quick because some games you get a team who won't shoot down UAV's and you get lurmed over a hill to death (even if it results in a win it is one of the more annoying ways to die), or you have team FULL of lurmers and lose badly because of no armour sharing, cowardly play.

How about a more teamwork centric event? Assists, light/medium/heavy protected, lance in formation etc. Or something more elaborate.

[Stealthrider]

I've been loving the events, but I understand the frustration. Daily/weekly challenges could be a good alternative, though.

[Alex Morgaine]

Void Angel, on 27 September 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

As has been pointed out above, PGI gets excoriated for not doing anything if they don't run events - and if they're getting more numbers for the events, which seems likely, well... then they are "listening to the community."

The problem with challenges, leaderboards especially, is that people do not act with enlightened self-interest. They try to game the system, not realizing that cowering behind their teammates will not efficiently allow them to achieve the challenge goals - nor produce the kind of scores needed to be successful in the leaderboards. Ditto with racking out the LRM launchers and camping over the horizon. Playing aggressively and as part of a team yields the best results, but currently the game does a poor job of conditioning those behaviors in normal matches, so when players try to game the challenges, they do it in exactly the wrong ways.

PS: In before some idiot chimes in with "want to buy a 'mech pack."

Want to.... Oh ...
*walks out dejected*

[GurpGork]

The community is saying the game is dying. Save your money. And your time.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Tina Benoit, on 27 September 2016 - 03:41 PM, said:

We're listening and hearing the events feedback.
We understand the requests for less personal challenges to avoid the solo game-play behavior as well as the weekends-only theme.
We'll see what we can do to make October different and stand out from the last couple recent events.

We probably won't have an event this coming weekend, however as we plan ahead for Oct, I'll read up on Event Suggestion sub-forum at the same time. It's also nice to hear what you guys have enjoyed in the past to hear out what you found fun as well and push more towards that style.

Otherwise, brand new event ideas might be fun to try out as well. Your reactions and feedback will depend on if we will continue similar ones or try something new again.

they are still gonna say you're not listening or reading feedback. JK, I personally don't care to much for the event's but trying new things is good. Keep playing around with idea's that's all anybody can ask.

GurpGork, on 27 September 2016 - 06:14 PM, said:

The community is saying the game is dying. Save your money. And your time.

hmm, I feel like you have another account. One that has more post

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 September 2016 - 06:22 PM.

[Davegt27]

don't change anything I am trying to get to 100 air strikes lol

[LordKnightFandragon]

KodiakGW, on 27 September 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

??? Umm, we don't have PvE. But, we do have the Training session. Pretty much covers everything basic except shooting UAVs. Weapon ranges, grouping, targeting, movement. You know, everything you still see not happening in T1-2 games. Lack of hitting the R key, firing weapons beyond range, etc.

Don't need PvE to not be a suicide rush derp, block your team's shots, figure out why certain players say UAV and then shoot the glowing thing in the sky that doesn't have a blue dorito over it, etc.

Well, that was actually a jab at all the people who are all "But PVE will make for bad players ruining PVP".

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 27 September 2016 - 08:02 PM.

[adamts01]

KodiakGW, on 27 September 2016 - 08:03 AM, said:

Been that way forever for me in solo PUG.

It wasn't always like that. I've spent 99% of my MWO time in solo que, and it's gotten worse, and worse and worse. Even on the forums, there was a drastic change of thinking about 6 months to a year ago, it became the cool thing to do to not give a **** about solo que. It's like people are going out of their way to be d-bags. The real **** thing is that this attitude has spread to group que. I used to avoid event weekends, then they started coming every weekend, so I'd play other games on the weekend, then leaderboards brought a 24/7 event...... coupled with nerfing the light class and the joke called CW3, it drove me completely away, haven't played in months. **** the whole e-sports ********. Leaderboards were one of the worst moves they could have made. Have structured 12v12 competitions for e-peen bragging rights, but leave goddamn leaderboards out of the normal game.

[Alistair Winter]

Community? You mean NGNG?

Small, daily challenges would be nice. Teamwork-oriented challenges would be better. But really, the whole game is built around being the guy who does all the damage and gets all the kills.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Greatest problem ...all the morons in Event ...Atlas with only a UAC5 and a LRM10 Flamer battlemasters...People that not understand the simplest Rules and Mechanics from the Game ...Questions like "Lazors rip the Armor /and Ballistic kills???"...backstanding ,AFK/Suicide Players....Multiplayer only for Guys who have completed the academy with High Status
or a Bootcamp and Full Metal Jacket Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann for all this Morons

make more Events with Themes , Timeline Events ,or a One Day stock Event ,not personal Score Events

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 27 September 2016 - 10:33 PM.