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[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 05 October 2016 - 09:54 AM, said:

Well, i mean...
The original picture of their colours is a bit... Garish


But according to the Field Manual: Mercenaries, their camo pattern should be green with golden stripes.
The picture's not mine, but it does portray a Wasp and Scorpion in the revised Smithson's Chinese Bandits colours.

wow..no wonder they have such a reputation for discomfort... look at how tiny those cockpits are compared to the infantry...do Scorpion Jocks lay down on the job?

Also, pretty sure the bottom of that mech is not rated for IEDs.

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 05 October 2016 - 09:56 AM, said:

wow..no wonder they have such a reputation for discomfort... look at how tiny those cockpits are compared to the infantry...do Scorpion Jocks lay down on the job?

Also, pretty sure the bottom of that mech is not rated for IEDs.

I'll just write that off to "scaling issues".
I mean that's a 20 ton Wasp towering over the 55 ton Scorpion.

[Karl Streiger]

Juodas Varnas, on 05 October 2016 - 10:12 AM, said:

I'll just write that off to "scaling issues".
I mean that's a 20 ton Wasp towering over the 55 ton Scorpion.

Perfect volumetric scale

[Bishop Steiner]

Juodas Varnas, on 05 October 2016 - 10:12 AM, said:

I'll just write that off to "scaling issues".

Juodas Varnas, on 05 October 2016 - 10:12 AM, said:

I mean that's a 20 ton Wasp towering over the 55 ton Scorpion.

I just thought he ate his Wheaties this morning.....

[El Bandito]

I prefer 8 ballistic Dire Wolf (which is enabled by this Hero) over Natasha's any given day. Any. given. day.

[Andi Nagasia]

Vasili Kerensky, on 05 October 2016 - 06:53 AM, said:

We got Jin Mehta's Dire Wolf instead of Natasha's...

On top of this insult, not one Dire Wolf variant can be configured to produce the Widowmaker...

I challenge a developer of your choice to a Trial of Grievance over this affront.

um cant you mix and match to make the Widowmaker already?
[smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...298d42567689af9[/smurfy]

[Kael Posavatz]

Widowmaker has three ER-meds in the body. So, S-side torso and that comes with a JJ the widowmaker isn't have. And you can't do the Widowmaker LRM or the Lone Wolf.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kael Posavatz, on 05 October 2016 - 06:42 PM, said:

Widowmaker has three ER-meds in the body. So, S-side torso and that comes with a JJ the widowmaker isn't have. And you can't do the Widowmaker LRM or the Lone Wolf.

No, actually it does not. It has 2 ER MLs in the CT and 1 ERSL in the Head.
DWF-Widowmaker
canon correct Widowmaker using existing parts.

Weapons & Equipment
1 Ultra AC/20
(Ammo Locations: 2 RA)
1 Large Pulse Laser RA
1 ER PPC RA
1 ER PPC LA
1 Large Pulse Laser LA
1 ER Small Laser HD
2 ER Medium Lasers CT

and 25 DHS, also arrayed in correct locations.



You are welcome. Just saved somebody 25 bucks.

Andi Nagasia, on 05 October 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

um cant you mix and match to make the Widowmaker already?
[smurfy]http://mwo.smurfy-ne...298d42567689af9[/smurfy]

yup, link is on page 1, even.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 05 October 2016 - 07:18 PM.

[Archangel.84]

The only contender for Aidan in terms of Summoner jocks (IMO) would be Marthe, but then I never cottoned to Horse as much as some others sadly.

I think bringing in some of the "lesser known" pilots rather than Diana or Ranna (for examples) is to spread out the faction love some. There's plenty of Falcon and Wolf pilots in the fiction because they got a *lot* of attention. Less so for the Jaguars and Ghost Bears (until much later, and even then...), let alone the Cats and Sharks and Vipers.

[Mark Nicholson]

Archangel.84, on 05 October 2016 - 08:18 PM, said:

The only contender for Aidan in terms of Summoner jocks (IMO) would be Marthe, but then I never cottoned to Horse as much as some others sadly.

you're forgetting the best contender!
you probably can't even see why kids love the fury of the falcons claws!

Nicolai Malthus!

[Dee Eight]

Pariah Devalis, on 05 October 2016 - 08:28 AM, said:

That amazing moment when the developer is a higher skill tier than the challenger.

Related note: thank you again for the wonderful design work on the Huntsman's model.

Come on...when the OP has been here FOUR years and is only a Tier 5....you had to realize it was a troll thread.

[Zolaz]

Archangel.84, on 05 October 2016 - 08:18 PM, said:

The only contender for Aidan in terms of Summoner jocks (IMO) would be Marthe, but then I never cottoned to Horse as much as some others sadly.

Who doesnt like Bad Horse?

[Juodas Varnas]

Mark Nicholson, on 05 October 2016 - 09:42 PM, said:

you're forgetting the best contender!
you probably can't even see why kids love the fury of the falcons claws!

Nicolai Malthus!

I guess it was deemed to be too OP

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 05 October 2016 - 10:22 PM.

[Mark Nicholson]

Juodas Varnas, on 05 October 2016 - 10:22 PM, said:

I guess it was deemed to be too OP

...that or SOME developers don't want a mech with 6 energy hardpoints per leg....

[Karl Streiger]

Juodas Varnas, on 05 October 2016 - 10:22 PM, said:

I guess it was deemed to be too OP

not as OP as Aidan in a summoner - he killed two Mechs with 1 salvo of his LRM20 - or another intact Summoner with just few remaining shots of his LBX.

OK to admit I've seen a guy on HPG that killed two black Zeus Mechs with one shot of his large laser - vision was somehow poor from the smoking wreckage of my AS7-S

[Archangel.84]

For pure OP, can anybody trump Aidan's Timber Wolf Small Laser?

Admittedly I did forget about Nicolai. He can be #3.

[Andi Nagasia]

Mark Nicholson, on 05 October 2016 - 10:42 PM, said:

...that or SOME developers don't want a mech with 6 energy hardpoints per leg....

6 Low Mounted Energy, doesnt seem too Meta to me,

[Vasili Kerensky]

Mark Nicholson, on 05 October 2016 - 08:24 AM, said:

I accept your challenge. PM me.
(trials of grievance may be totally non binding)

I also argued in favour of a black widow direwolf, but was overruled by reasonable arguments about duplicate hero names. As I'm sure you're aware, there's a Black Widow warhammer already.

It is a reasonable argument but there was no reason for it to be named Black Widow since Natasha had named her variant Widowmaker (can you get any cooler than that?) Bradigus made the same point.

Edited by Vasili Kerensky, 06 October 2016 - 12:24 PM.

[Mark Nicholson]

To be more clear, the argument was that there is already a hero mech associated with Natasha Kerensky, and making her a second hero mech was deemed redundant.

And as other people have pointed out, you can make it in game, the 3rd er medium laser is an error somewhere.
(or, I suppose you could strip a heat sink for one to be added somewhere)

great match ...er ...Trial!

[Bishop Steiner]

Mark Nicholson, on 06 October 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

To be more clear, the argument was that there is already a hero mech associated with Natasha Kerensky, and making her a second hero mech was deemed redundant.

And as other people have pointed out, you can make it in game, the 3rd er medium laser is an error somewhere.
(or, I suppose you could strip a heat sink for one to be added somewhere)

I have the original sheet.

People keep treating Sarna as gospel and IT IS NOT CANON OR THE ARBITER THEREOF. It is a typo that needs correcting, nothing more.

Here's the page taken from the "More Tales of the Black Widow" sourcebook.

Mark Nicholson, on 05 October 2016 - 09:42 PM, said:

you're forgetting the best contender!
you probably can't even see why kids love the fury of the falcons claws!

Nicolai Malthus!

Puh-leeeze!
Nicolai mighta had a more pimped out ride, but Aidan was chill he didn't need gimmicks to wipe the floor with that Malthus gene joke.....