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#1 3xnihilo

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:22 PM

If PGI announced the Wasp as the next preorder only a handful of us would buy it. Even though it is basically a humanoid jumping Locust. I don't think that this is because players stay away from OP mechs. It certainly hasn't hurt the KDK-3. Is it possible that lights in general are inferior to other weight classes and even the best of the lights doesn't hold its own when compared to better mechs of other weights? Is this why PGI refuses to give us a new light, because they know they are generally not that good and they wouldn't sell? Doesn't it seem like lights would be the favored weight class if they were actually easy button crutch mechs?

I understand dying to a light is annoying, they are often built for harassing after all, but chances are, if you kept track of every chassis that killed you, you would usually find it was that Kodiak, timber wolf, or Warhammer...not the light mech.


PS. Please give us a new light mech soon PGI!

#2 Y E O N N E

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:30 PM

I wouldn't buy the Wasp because:

A. I do not typically like humanoid 'Mechs

B. I have no nostalgia for it

C. I have no use for a 20 ton Phoenix Hawk

I will accept nothing that isn't a Raptor, Locust-IIC, Firemoth, Flea, and maybe Piranha. I know all of these will be either good or interesting. There is nothing interesting about a Hornet or a Wasp.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 16 October 2016 - 05:57 PM.


#3 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:32 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 16 October 2016 - 05:30 PM, said:

I wouldn't buy the Wasp because:

A. I do not typically like humanoid 'Mechs

B. I have no nostalgia for it

C. I have no use for a 20 ton Phoenix Hawk

I will accept nothing that isn't a Raptor, Locust-IIC, Firemoth, and maybe Piranha. I know all of these will be either good or interesting. There is nothing interesting about a Hornet or a Wasp.


I mean, I could see the IS getting the Javelin. That would be a very solid 30-ton combat light for them. A good addition, and sharing being humanoid and being 30 tons with the ACH, i'd doubt if it was any bigger than the Cheetah. Given it is a little chubby, probably smaller, even.

However, as a Clan loyalist, only light mechs I'd consider would be the Fire Moth or Fire Falcon.

Edit: And maybe the Snow Fox. :P

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 16 October 2016 - 05:34 PM.


#4 Helene de Montfort

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:33 PM

i want a tarantula Posted Image

#5 RestosIII

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:34 PM

If the IS gets a light any time soon, it should be an Owens or Firefly. Or a Hollander, for those inclined in that direction.

Edited by RestosIII, 16 October 2016 - 05:34 PM.


#6 3xnihilo

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:35 PM

Oh don't get me wrong, I just want a new light mech to play with. It doesn't have to be a wasp, that just provided a good comparison to the locust. Locust IIC, Firemoth, Javelin are all on my list of wants as well :D

#7 Y E O N N E

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:40 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 16 October 2016 - 05:32 PM, said:

However, as a Clan loyalist, only light mechs I'd consider would be the Fire Moth or Fire Falcon.

Edit: And maybe the Snow Fox. Posted Image


Y u no Locust IIC!? Posted Image

View PostRestosIII, on 16 October 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

If the IS gets a light any time soon, it should be an Owens...


pls no

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 16 October 2016 - 05:41 PM.


#8 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:42 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 16 October 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

Y u no Locust IIC!? Posted Image


Meh. Not big on piloting knockoffs. Posted Image Or... Battlemechs in general. Omnimechs are for a more civilized society!

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 16 October 2016 - 05:43 PM.


#9 Y E O N N E

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:44 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 16 October 2016 - 05:42 PM, said:


Meh. Not big on piloting knockoffs. Posted Image Or... Battlemechs in general. Omnimechs are for a more civilized society!


But...the Clans hold those 'Mechs they made knock-offs for in high reverence! At least, that's what I've been told.

Real-talk, though, the LCT-IIC would probably become the go-to Light for Clans.

#10 Barantor

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:44 PM

Javelin makes the most sense as the only IS mech we have that uses SRMs to a large degree is a hero mech Oxide, none of the other IS lights do anything like it.

A Wasp/Stinger combo would be the best to play on the nostalgia strings.

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#11 RestosIII

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:44 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 16 October 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:


Y u no Locust IIC!? Posted Image



pls no


Posted Image

What's wrong with it?

#12 Bombast

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:47 PM

No one would buy the Wasp because it's not the light we deserve - The light that everyone truly craves, deep in their heart. The sub-40 ton mech that fills everyone with glee.

But we already have the Urbanmech, so I guess the Flea is the next one we should get.

#13 Y E O N N E

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:59 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 16 October 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:


Posted Image

What's wrong with it?


On the off-chance this isn't a lolpost:

It has locked Single Heatsinks.

And for my own part: it's an evolved Jenner. Jenners are ugly. Jenner killed Nicodemus. Death to all Jenners!

#14 3xnihilo

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 05:59 PM

View PostBombast, on 16 October 2016 - 05:47 PM, said:

No one would buy the Wasp because it's not the light we deserve - The light that everyone truly craves, deep in their heart. The sub-40 ton mech that fills everyone with glee.

But we already have the Urbanmech, so I guess the Flea is the next one we should get.


I would be very happy to see the Flea added to the game. Maybe they will consider it since the concept art is done already?!?!

#15 RestosIII

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 06:05 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 16 October 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:


On the off-chance this isn't a lolpost:

It has locked Single Heatsinks.

And for my own part: it's an evolved Jenner. Jenners are ugly. Jenner killed Nicodemus. Death to all Jenners!


Single heat sinks have never stopped me. I'm legitimately hoping they add the Strider eventually. I don't have problems.

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 06:05 PM

View Post3xnihilo, on 16 October 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:

I would be very happy to see the Flea added to the game. Maybe they will consider it since the concept art is done already?!?!

I'd prefer the Horned Owl.

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 06:06 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 16 October 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:


Single heat sinks have never stopped me. I'm legitimately hoping they add the Strider eventually. I don't have problems.


I mean, sure.

But I want a Raptor first.

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 06:09 PM

View Post3xnihilo, on 16 October 2016 - 05:22 PM, said:

Is this why PGI refuses to give us a new light, because they know they are generally not that good and they wouldn't sell?

I think so. They will eventually try it surely and we'll get a new light... but I think after it doesn't sell well it'll likely be like another year before we see another light :<

#19 Mole

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 06:13 PM

I will put money down on anything under 35 tons (and actually PGI won't be getting any of my money period until we get a new light). We should get the Flea though. I mean, it's only four years late.

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 06:22 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 16 October 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

Y u no Locust IIC!? Posted Image


Would be DOA given PGI's propensity for under-quirking Lights that have Jump Jets combined with their aversion to quirking Clan Mechs in general will see to that as it would likely receive little-to-none of the quirks that make the IS Locust "dangerous": The Accel/Decel and Turning Speed. Same goes for the Firemoth.

I can't blame PGI for being extremely cautious with Lights in that respect because a few percentages of Quirks too far and you've got the next-gen Jenner/Firestarter on your hands... Assuming that's the reasoning behind their actions and not general incompetence Posted Image .

Admittedly the JR7/FS9 weren't that bad, but the potatoes would be crying foul with exaggerated claims of "the end is nigh" and "the sky is falling" if they ever had to face one of those in their heyday... Because if they think the ACH is bad, they ain't seen nothin yet. Given PGI's cheapskate attitude toward the Light Mech performance ceiling and their viability, it's not unrealistic to conclude any Light that could remotely approach a competitive stature will be promptly set ablaze as sacrifice to the great potato god... Assuming they werent neutered upon release.





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