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[Deathlike]

Novakaine, on 19 October 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

The truly amazing thing is it was absolutely no reason for it.
Absolutely none.
I scoffed at the "Dartboard of Nerfs."
Now I'm a true believer.
Oh well I guess when everyone is sporty a raggedy clan bus they'll be happy.
I wonder what's next halving the range on all IS lasers?
Once again outstanding job.
I'll just take my lone AC/5 and stand in the corner now.

It's a symbolic concept, but I'm sure some people can deliver PGI a real one... because reasons.

[Scout Derek]

Novakaine, on 19 October 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh and on another note not sure about the Clankers.
But the IS loyalty mechs solidly and overwhelmingly suck.
So much for loyalty huh?

should have given you the mauler with ballistic arms and energy torsos.

Buuut I guess you'll have to wait next year huh?

Also.

It has jump jets.

[Mcgral18]

Rampage, on 19 October 2016 - 05:01 PM, said:

Tip of the iceberg. Lots of changes coming in November and even more in December. Personally, I like change so I am looking forward to it.

Is there a reason they can't do the changes at the same time?


Because this isn't exactly iterative...it's out of the blue.

[Carl Vickers]

Novakaine, on 19 October 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh and on another note not sure about the Clankers.
But the IS loyalty mechs solidly and overwhelmingly suck.
So much for loyalty huh?

Havent tried the others but the BJ-2 is fine to me, 2 mid lazor and 4 asrm4's works quite well.

[Cy Mitchell]

Mcgral18, on 19 October 2016 - 05:39 PM, said:

Is there a reason they can't do the changes at the same time?


Because this isn't exactly iterative...it's out of the blue.

Do you mean so we can get all the wailing, pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth at the same time?

[Mcgral18]

Rampage, on 19 October 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

Do you mean so we can get all the wailing, pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth at the same time?

Better than being a completely pointless change


Explain how this can possibly improve anything? Nerfing non-relevant mechs, and giving quirks to mechs which will never mount the weapons?


Now, 1.5% isn't a great deal, but it's still a WHY change

At least if they explained it, we could just say WHAT (tf)




There needs to be explanations, but I guess that doesn't come with the Dartboard.

[Novakaine]

PGI.......

[Carl Vickers]

Mcgral18, on 19 October 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

Better than being a completely pointless change


Explain how this can possibly improve anything? Nerfing non-relevant mechs, and giving quirks to mechs which will never mount the weapons?


Now, 1.5% isn't a great deal, but it's still a WHY change

At least if they explained it, we could just say WHAT (tf)




There needs to be explanations, but I guess that doesn't come with the Dartboard.

Explaining actions is the sign of a progressive company that values their customer base and are confident enough in their stance that they feel they can explain their rational for a decision.

What does that say about PGI?

[xe N on]

Yeah, these mechs totally needed this nerfs because they definitely lead the stats ...

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.. in the least used mechs ...

Edited by xe N on, 19 October 2016 - 08:09 PM.

[Deathlike]

Carl Vickers, on 19 October 2016 - 08:02 PM, said:

Explaining actions is the sign of a progressive company that values their customer base and are confident enough in their stance that they feel they can explain their rational for a decision.

What does that say about PGI?

*insert meme pic here*

Office of the Paulcomonist... I Mean Our Balance Overlord said:

We thought you were having too much fun with UACs...

[Cy Mitchell]

Mcgral18, on 19 October 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

Better than being a completely pointless change


Explain how this can possibly improve anything? Nerfing non-relevant mechs, and giving quirks to mechs which will never mount the weapons?


Now, 1.5% isn't a great deal, but it's still a WHY change

At least if they explained it, we could just say WHAT (tf)




There needs to be explanations, but I guess that doesn't come with the Dartboard.

They did tell us that after the re-scale there would be a re-quirk. There have been bits and pieces here and there such as these and the adjustments (nerfs) to Mechs like the Nova and Blackjack among others. They also said there would be many more adjustments coming before the end of the year. Combine that with a total rework of the Skill Tree and things could become interesting in the next two months.

Maybe we will understand better how the pieces fit together when we see the whole puzzle?

[Lyoto Machida]

Rampage, on 19 October 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

They did tell us that after the re-scale there would be a re-quirk. There have been bits and pieces here and there such as these and the adjustments (nerfs) to Mechs like the Nova and Blackjack among others. They also said there would be many more adjustments coming before the end of the year. Combine that with a total rework of the Skill Tree and things could become interesting in the next two months.

Maybe we will understand better how the pieces fit together when we see the whole puzzle?

The whole puzzle....that's ridiculously optimistic but we'll see.

[Carl Vickers]

Lyoto Machida, on 19 October 2016 - 09:13 PM, said:

The whole puzzle....that's ridiculously optimistic but we'll see.

Thats assuming that PGI even know the whole puzzle themselves

[Deathlike]

Rampage, on 19 October 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

They did tell us that after the re-scale there would be a re-quirk. There have been bits and pieces here and there such as these and the adjustments (nerfs) to Mechs like the Nova and Blackjack among others. They also said there would be many more adjustments coming before the end of the year. Combine that with a total rework of the Skill Tree and things could become interesting in the next two months.

Maybe we will understand better how the pieces fit together when we see the whole puzzle?

So, wait til Mechcon?

I feel like I've heard this before.

"Wait 'til Steam Release"

"Wait 'til Launch"

"Wait 'til after CW launches"

"Wait 'til someone @ PGI has a clue"


I don't think this waiting game has worked out.

[Caldek]

This quirk nerf is just an example of one of many reasons why I wouldn't even consider financially supporting this game right now. Which kills me, because I love the IP, but it's just impossible.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

Darth Hotz, on 19 October 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Steamplayers are mostly gone.

People continue to say this is a thing.

But I swear when I spectate teammates I see a VERY LARGE number of steam players.

[rawasch]

Rampage, on 19 October 2016 - 05:01 PM, said:

Tip of the iceberg. Lots of changes coming in November and even more in December. Personally, I like change so I am looking forward to it.

Was this announced somewhere or how do you know there are lots of changes coming?

[RestosIII]

Carl Vickers, on 19 October 2016 - 09:15 PM, said:

Thats assuming that PGI even know the whole puzzle themselves

Or WHAT a puzzle is.

[Widowmaker1981]

Yeonne Greene, on 19 October 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

Nobody takes standard ACs because standard ACs are generally bad. If the 'Mechs with UAC buffs are already considered "meh" with those superior UACs, I should think the solution to encouraging more standard AC usage would involve a buff to those somewhere...

...I'm still waiting.

People ignore the biggest reason to use IS AC5 over UAC5 - that extra slot on the UAC5 means you cannot fit two of them in a side torso with an XL. Thats HUGE. Ask the Mauler or the Sleipnir if they would like to run quad UAC5 + XL. Same obviously doesnt apply to clans, because 3 slot UAC5, 4 slot UAC10s and 2 slot/ST XLs, but Clan ACs arent supposed to compete with UACs, because Clan ACs arent supposed to exist.

Having said that, yes the nerf was pointless. None of those are top tier mechs and therefore didnt need nerfing.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 19 October 2016 - 11:36 PM.

[a gaijin]

Rampage, on 19 October 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

They did tell us that after the re-scale there would be a re-quirk.

The best re-quirk would be to delete all the weapon quirks.