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[Angel of Annihilation]

Tordin, on 19 October 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

I think the only thing it needs are a slight CT buff, otherwise it rolls dmg pretty well.

The more I play it, the more I think your right. I would love to see this mech more agile but that isn't its biggest problem. It's problem is just how easy it is to core it out. If they could fix that issue, the mech would be fairly decent.

Gen82, on 19 October 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

I dunno. I haven't been having too hard of a time with it. I've been playing it a little like an asym Hunchback IIC (orig hunchback?). But I've only played 1 build so far, not mastered and not a whole lot.

It isn't a DOA mech by any means, it just isn't good enough to really want to choose it instead of a Stormcrow, Nova or Hunchback IIC. I know it will never be up to par compared to the Stormcrow but I would love it to at least be as good as a Nova and Hunchback IIC.

Yeonne Greene, on 19 October 2016 - 06:04 PM, said:

You know...all of these drawbacks pretty well describe a certain other Medium 'Mech that many people loved to hate. Spelled like "Blackjack."

Only, the Blackjack can't twist very well. Or bring anywhere near as many guns. But it's got some nifty energy range quirks...only good for LPL or PPCs.

Huntsman sounds like it will be solid if not stellar.

BJ is an amazing mech. It is small, fairly tanky and those ultra high mounted hardpoints make it brilliant at fighting from a hull down position. I just wish the Huntsman was that good.

[visionGT4]

Easy mode lolTech mech goes live. Complete with clan xl, light weight weapons and plenty of tonnage to fit these those light weight weapons (and did I mention clanXL)... what more do you want?

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Naduk, on 19 October 2016 - 06:04 PM, said:

From going up against them they seem tanky enough

As for your first impression and analysis
Remember that you have no basic or elite unlocks
No 2x bonus to basic movement skills

If you want a really fair comparison with the 6 pulse build , drop some heat sinks from the storm crow to match the huntsman

I believe you will see a average damage drop to closely match what the hunt was getting
Heat has a bigger impact on a build that you're giving credit for

From what I've seen them doing so far it looks to me like they are bringing to many weapon systems or not enough

I'd be interested to hear how a build that starts ranged and moves in to finish ppl of in close
Something like ppc or lpl followed by spl+mg+target comp

I'm running a uac5, 5 erml, and s-srm6 build. I've been having a lot of success outside of my first match with the Huntsman. I was pretty much focus fire vaporized in that one. Since then my scores have gone up and I'm floating between 3-600 dam with several kills and kmdd's even with people gunning for the mech due to the events.

It's growing on me as I adjust my play style to it and the build. It does kinda drive a tad sluggish or feels such at first, but now I'm really enjoying my time with it. Tactically, I drive it like my Hunchback 4G, get in with the heavies and assaults and bob and weave and just keep putting damage into what ever pokes it's heads up, and looking to fend off lights. I find it to be fairly tanky in this role, where you have a chance to adequately twist to spread incoming damage. Too much face time and the CT weakness sticks out more, but I don't really find it that squishy. It does have great punch as things close in.

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Viktor Drake, on 19 October 2016 - 06:12 PM, said:

BJ is an amazing mech. It is small, fairly tanky and those ultra high mounted hardpoints make it brilliant at fighting from a hull down position. I just wish the Huntsman was that good.

BJ used to be an amazing 'Mech. It's not as good as it used to be, not when so much damage can be dealt in split seconds by bouncing Hunchbacks or Kodiaks. At range it is simply out-classed, with the sole possible exception of the BJ-3 with ERPPC. It can't turn well enough for close quarters and its torso twist range is garbage so it can't compensate there, either.

If they gave the 1X back its offensive quirks, but left it squishy, it would be good without being too powerful.

[Snowbluff]

The Accel/Decel is bad? Isn't it the same as most HBK-IICs? o.0

[Undercover Brother]

Personally, I LOVE the Huntsman. Outside of the Summoner and Shadow Hawk, I've never maxed out a mech faster. The trick to the lightly armored and slow Huntsman is to be patient and pick your fights. One on one, you're dead. Backing up one or two of your team's light mechs, you're devastating. Also, if running at range is your thing, you can easily match a Catapult or Archer's loadout, at a lighter weight too.

[Cato Zilks]

I am not disapointed in the least. In fact, think this is an excellent mech and it plays better than I expected. Don't play it like a storm crow, because it is not that fast. Join up with your heavies or assaults and help dish damage.

This mech is like the Mauler in many respects; it is not fast and not super tanky . . . but it can unload a world of hurt on the enemy. I can fit more SRM 6's in this mech than I have in my Cyclops 10-Q, with the same amount of ammo, while still having more heat sinks and weighing about half as much.

[The Lobsters]

Cato Zilks, on 20 October 2016 - 12:01 AM, said:

I am not disapointed in the least. In fact, think this is an excellent mech and it plays better than I expected. Don't play it like a storm crow, because it is not that fast. Join up with your heavies or assaults and help dish damage.

This mech is like the Mauler in many respects; it is not fast and not super tanky . . . but it can unload a world of hurt on the enemy. I can fit more SRM 6's in this mech than I have in my Cyclops 10-Q, with the same amount of ammo, while still having more heat sinks and weighing about half as much.

I'm 500 miles from my gaming rig so I haven't had a chance to play yet, but from some quick mechlabbing I can see this is the likely playstyle. An xl250 in the iic hunchies leaves them rather sluggish so I put an xl275 in and build around that. The weapon potential of the Huntsman is rather sick. Best stick close to the big boys and stay down on the targeting triage.

It does seem like a Stormcrow in that you can put 2 mechs worth of weapons on it. My pugland 'Crow fit is an LRM boat for the first phase of the match in the torsos, and a close up finisher in the arms for the end phase. I think the huntsmans it's lil' brother.

The twist/turn on an xl250'd 50 tonner is going to be pretty poor. I'm not sure that's gonna fly for a medium.

[Pariah Devalis]

The Lobsters, on 20 October 2016 - 02:45 PM, said:

I'm 500 miles from my gaming rig so I haven't had a chance to play yet, but from some quick mechlabbing I can see this is the likely playstyle. An xl250 in the iic hunchies leaves them rather sluggish so I put an xl275 in and build around that. The weapon potential of the Huntsman is rather sick. Best stick close to the big boys and stay down on the targeting triage.

It does seem like a Stormcrow in that you can put 2 mechs worth of weapons on it. My pugland 'Crow fit is an LRM boat for the first phase of the match in the torsos, and a close up finisher in the arms for the end phase. I think the huntsmans it's lil' brother.

The twist/turn on an xl250'd 50 tonner is going to be pretty poor. I'm not sure that's gonna fly for a medium.

Before efficiency bonuses, it is blessed with a pretty snappy 100 degrees per second torso twist rate. Even better, the mech tends to roll damage extremely well. Assuming you are not caught off guard, that is. Otherwise that CT eats a lot of incidental fire.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Snowbluff, on 19 October 2016 - 07:42 PM, said:

The Accel/Decel is bad? Isn't it the same as most HBK-IICs? o.0

Not sure how they compare because I don't own the Hunchback IIC. I do own the Nova and Stormcrow and since they are actually omnimechs, that is kind of the bar I have to compare against. Compared to them, the Huntsman is very sluggish.

[Hit the Deck]

It had been known before release that it needs to compete with already great Mediums so it needs to shine in *something* if people want it to be good compared with the others at...... something.

One unique thing it can do is carrying 8x missiles, which I think wouldn't be that great but how does it actually perform (the 8x missiles loadout)?

Now if it's actually decent at *many things*, I guess it has already fulfilled it's intended purpose (per lore/fluff not MWO).

Edited by Hit the Deck, 20 October 2016 - 03:33 PM.

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Hit the Deck, on 20 October 2016 - 03:31 PM, said:

It had been known before release that it needs to compete with already great Mediums so it needs to shine in *something* if people want it to be good compared with the others at...... something.

One unique thing it can do is carrying 8x missiles, which I think wouldn't be that great but how does it actually perform (the 8x missiles loadout)?

Now if it's actually decent at *many things*, I guess it has already fulfilled it's intended purpose (per lore/fluff not MWO).

It's a bit slow to get into position with that payload.

[The Lobsters]

Pariah Devalis, on 20 October 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

Before efficiency bonuses, it is blessed with a pretty snappy 100 degrees per second torso twist rate. Even better, the mech tends to roll damage extremely well. Assuming you are not caught off guard, that is. Otherwise that CT eats a lot of incidental fire.

100 degrees for a 50 tonner is basic and not snappy at all. The only other 50's that are that low are the NVA-D, which can be buffed by swapping pods, the CN9-D with a xl250, but that's the Centurion with the high engine cap so that's not an issue for that, and the Hunchie iic's of course.

Every other 50 tonner has much better twist. Agreed there should be a trade off for the Huntsman's massive load (weapons that is ) but that could seriously hinder it's close quarter performance. Thank the mech gods it has JJ's.








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