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#1 PraetorGix

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:18 PM

Title says it. I've played about 9 matches today and never even saw TT up for voting. This is not by chance, every other player I chatted reported the same. Please PGI take a look because the percentage chance has been changed since yesterday.

#2 Bombast

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:23 PM

Weird. Out of the three matches I've played today (Since daily reset), it was up for vote twice.

I'll play a few more and get back in here to see whats up. Maybe somebody already has an answer?

#3 Alistair Winter

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:24 PM

Random is random. Even if there was a 50% chance of getting the map, you could go 1000 matches without seeing it up for voting. Right?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:28 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 21 October 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

Random is random. Even if there was a 50% chance of getting the map, you could go 1000 matches without seeing it up for voting. Right?


Statistically, yes. Probably? No.

#5 Deathlike

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:28 PM

Over a reasonable time period (like an hour or two), your chances of not having the option to have a certain map is low, but possible.

Because of the event, the chances of dropping on TT is pretty high.

#6 Alistair Winter

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:33 PM

View PostWeaselball, on 21 October 2016 - 05:28 PM, said:

Statistically, yes. Probably? No.

Over time, the improbable becomes probable.

- Abraham Lincoln



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:38 PM

I hope they reduced it to 3%.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:49 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 21 October 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

Over time, the improbable becomes probable.

- Abraham Lincoln




There are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

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On the topic of probability, what the **** does Abraham Lincoln know about anything?

- Judas, two hours before he betrayed Christ.



#9 Tina Benoit

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:07 PM

TT's been raised up again about 30 minutes ago. Sorry about that, the Hot-Fix had set it back to normal.

#10 El Bandito

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:10 PM

View PostTina Benoit, on 21 October 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

TT's been raised up again about 30 minutes ago. Sorry about that, the Hot-Fix had set it back to normal.


That's completely understandable. Although I do find it alarming that every patch is messing with something, thus requiring hot-fix, and now the hot-fix itself is messing with something.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:11 PM

View PostTina Benoit, on 21 October 2016 - 06:07 PM, said:

TT's been raised up again about 30 minutes ago. Sorry about that, the Hot-Fix had set it back to normal.


PraetorGix right now:

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Amusingly, for the last 50 minutes, I haven't been able to get Terra Therma to pop. I figured the RNG algorithm had just read my forum post and was yanking my chain, though.

Edited by Bombast, 21 October 2016 - 06:12 PM.


#12 Whiskey Dharma

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:38 PM

Really not a fan of this map. When is it due to enter normal rotation?

#13 PraetorGix

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:43 PM

View PostBombast, on 21 October 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:


PraetorGix right now:

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Amusingly, for the last 50 minutes, I haven't been able to get Terra Therma to pop. I figured the RNG algorithm had just read my forum post and was yanking my chain, though.


Lawlz, yeah I was more or less like that. I don't like to tell you so... unless its with a proper meme :-P

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:46 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 21 October 2016 - 06:10 PM, said:


That's completely understandable. Although I do find it alarming that every patch is messing with something, thus requiring hot-fix, and now the hot-fix itself is messing with something.


I don't think it's the hotfix that messed with it. It's the sudden downtime when PGI was removing the decals from players that triggered it. My guess is that there is a script run before the servers went up during patch day and the hotfix that causes TT to be run so incessantly for the event.

It simply got reset to the defaults because of that downtime.

Edited by Deathlike, 21 October 2016 - 06:47 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:47 PM

View PostWhiskey Dharma, on 21 October 2016 - 06:38 PM, said:

Really not a fan of this map. When is it due to enter normal rotation?


November 2nd.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:57 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 21 October 2016 - 06:10 PM, said:


That's completely understandable. Although I do find it alarming that every patch is messing with something, thus requiring hot-fix, and now the hot-fix itself is messing with something.



That is most likely NOT the case...

What is happening is more than likely this..

Patch is put together for monthly patch, it gets completed at X time and get's finalized, and then goes to Q&A.

Known issues are worked on while patch is in Q&A typically because they ran out of time, hence the "known issue" Or Q&A found said issue because it is far easier to check 95% of the patch, while the last few things are finished up.. (art updates are a prime example of this sorta thing)

The others finish up what they are working on, while patch is going through Q&A and goes into Planned hot fix.. Patch is uploaded to servers, and goes live..

Planned hot-fix gets it's finalized parts, and any issue that pops up when patch goes live also gets tossed into said hot-fix..

Hot-fix does not get as extensive of Q&A, so sometimes things can slip, like checking it TT still had it's increased bonus which could of gotten reset when they fixed the alarm sound thingy more than likely. though maybe not. I dunno the back end, but that is plausible depending on where the numbers are they have to edit..


So that is pretty much the reason why we get a hot-fix 2 days after the patches go live each month, since they went to monthly patches. The patch most likely has spent 5 days in the Q&A/finalization processes, but the coders and animators, and art folks can still finalize the things they did not have enough time to finish before the deadline.

I am not 100% sure, but this is what i have gathered by listening to russ ramble at town halls, and understanding what has been in most of the hot-fixes.. Kinda makes since don't ya think?

Edited by CJ Daxion, 21 October 2016 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 07:02 PM

View PostCJ Daxion, on 21 October 2016 - 06:57 PM, said:

Hot-fix does not get as extensive of Q&A, so sometimes things can slip, like checking it TT still had it's increased bonus which could of gotten reset when they fixed the alarm sound thingy more than likely. though maybe not. I dunno the back end, but that is plausible depending on where the numbers are they have to edit..


This is what I am referring to. They should check for things they changed in the patch, which might get reset.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 October 2016 - 07:04 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 07:22 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 21 October 2016 - 07:02 PM, said:


This is what I am referring to. They should check for things they changed in the patch, which might get reset.


I'm convinced its the downtime.

I mean, was this experienced post-hotfix, or post-downtime? It's easily the latter.





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