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[Gas Guzzler]

https://twitter.com/...444143918583808

This could be good. This could also be bad. Those "DPS" pulse lasers tested poorly, right?

I actually wasn't a fan of any of the laser changes honestly, can't we just buff MGs and small lasers and call it square? Maybe LBs and AC2s too?

[Deathlike]

I believe the Dartboard of Balance is being revealed @ Mechcon with the official "balance overlord" title.

[Gas Guzzler]

Deathlike, on 26 October 2016 - 05:11 PM, said:

I believe the Dartboard of Balance is being revealed @ Mechcon with the official "balance overlord" title.

There will be some changes in Nov and Dec but bigger things (NEW WEAPONS MAYBE?) at MechCon!

[Deathlike]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 October 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:

There will be some changes in Nov and Dec but bigger things (NEW WEAPONS MAYBE?) at MechCon!

Well... the 3rd year after the Clans release is the charm right?

[MischiefSC]

I'm betting the Mechcon announcement is the *promise* of Solaris VII, though it'll likely get repeated delays and end up with a shadow of promised features and get degraded over time to just be new maps/modes for QP, like FW did. When it eventually comes out.

The simple reality is that QP, as it is right now, has consistently proven to be the best game experience PGI is willing and able to provide.

They just have to keep promising (but not delivering) real new and exciting content so people will keep buying (more and more) mech packs.

Which the slowly shrinking population will continue to do because we've consistently shown that we'll buy mech packs in return for the *promise* of good new gameplay even if it's never delivered.

Hard to say who's more to blame in this one.

[N0ni]

Guess i'm still taking my wallet somewhere else.

[Gas Guzzler]

N0ni, on 26 October 2016 - 05:27 PM, said:

Guess i'm still taking my wallet somewhere else.

What do you mean? Why? Its a good thing that they are looking into balance changes isn't it?

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 26 October 2016 - 05:29 PM.

[RestosIII]

Does it disturb anyone else that, with that wording, they could release balance changes at MechCon and say that was the major announcement they had planned? I'm getting another "small content update" vibe from this...

[Deathlike]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 October 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

What do you mean? Why? Its a good thing that they are looking into balance changes isn't it?

It feels like placating, but moreso it's in their usual schedule of "quarterly"-ish balance.

[N0ni]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 October 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

What do you mean? Why? Its a good thing that they are looking into balance changes isn't it?

My optimism died with $500 gold mechs. At this point i need the good news where i can see it, not hope it'll get better.

[Mcgral18]

The idea of iterative changes is sound, but the practice of them was...not there.


30% damage nerfs are not iterative, but at the same time, their Pulse iterations were too minuscule, nothing changed.
The damage changes had to be smaller, and the pulse damage-duration-cooldown had to be larger

Edited by Mcgral18, 26 October 2016 - 05:51 PM.

[Deathlike]

Mcgral18, on 26 October 2016 - 05:43 PM, said:

The idea of iterative changes is sound, but the practice of them was...not there.


30% damage nerfs are not iterative, but at the same time, their Pulse iterations were to minuscule nothing changed.
The damage changes had to be smaller, and the pulse damage-duration-cooldown had to be larger

I don't think any claim of iterative changes were actually mentioned.

Changes are happening, so another meta change that potatoes will take 60-90 day to recognize will be upon us.

Edited by Deathlike, 26 October 2016 - 05:44 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Deathlike, on 26 October 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

I don't think any claim of iterative changes were actually mentioned.

Changes are happening, so another meta change that potatoes will take 60-90 day to recognize will be upon us.

He said "iteration" when talking about balance changes on the PTS

[Deathlike]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 October 2016 - 05:51 PM, said:

He said "iteration" when talking about balance changes on the PTS

Ironically there wasn't any of that when we were spending time there.

[TLBFestus]

Deathlike, on 26 October 2016 - 05:11 PM, said:

I believe the Dartboard of Balance is being revealed @ Mechcon with the official "balance overlord" title.

Quick! Get a t-shirt made for MECHCON!! THE DARTBOARD of DESTINY:

Edited by TLBFestus, 26 October 2016 - 08:18 PM.

[TKSax]

MischiefSC, on 26 October 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

I'm betting the Mechcon announcement is the *promise* of Solaris VII, though it'll likely get repeated delays and end up with a shadow of promised features and get degraded over time to just be new maps/modes for QP, like FW did. When it eventually comes out.

Well Russ Said in a Town Hall that Solaris would not happen until after an engine upgrade, so unless they are announing and engine upgrade at the same time ... then I would not get my hopes up for Solaris.

[Mystere]

MischiefSC, on 26 October 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

Hard to say who's more to blame in this one.

Well, you probably already know who I blame for at least half of the problems with MWO.

[DGTLDaemon]

So it's worse than I expected: ED is being shelved, but some of those moronic balance changes they tested on the PTS will actually be introduced into the live game...

[El Bandito]

DGTLDaemon, on 26 October 2016 - 09:53 PM, said:

So it's worse than I expected: ED is being shelved, but some of those moronic balance changes they tested on the PTS will actually be introduced into the live game...

Such as... ? Cause I agree with some of the PTS balance changes, like the AC5 heat increase and LRM20 buffs.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 October 2016 - 10:03 PM.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

N0ni, on 26 October 2016 - 05:39 PM, said:

My optimism died with $500 gold mechs. At this point i need the good news where i can see it, not hope it'll get better.

Why does anyone care about the gold mechs, let alone object to them in principle? There was not only nothing wrong with them, either in concept or in execution, but they were a fine idea that did the job reasonably well. It's one of the best routes for F2P games to monetize super-whales by offering super expensive cosmetic-only options in limited quantities. I never understood the QQ when they were announced, and I understand even less how there could still be QQ flowing from it yet today.