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[Digous]

- X-Pulse Lasers
- Heavy Large Lasers
- Arrow IV Thunderbolt Missiles
- Arrow IV Cluster Missiles
- MRM's
- Streak MRM's
- TRUE C-UAC5 (Since the version called c-UAC5 in MWO is actually Rotary Autocannon)
- Light Gauss Rifle (And maybe Heavy Gauss, don't really care about the ultra heavy version)

I believe the inclusion of said weapons would bring whole new colors to the game, not to mention potentially hundreds of new loadout combinations (Along with terrrible balance issues if created without caution and precise balancing).

[Bombast]

Wrong Time Frame^TM

EDIT: More specifically, it's only 3051 at the moment, and most of those don't show up until at least 3056ish. I think there's some hope that they'll announce a time jump at MechCon.

Also, as much as I like more weapons, can we get a full IS T2 range first, please?

Edit^2: Forgot about Arrow IV. That's not in for some fairly obvious (And borderline Useless/Overpowered) reason.

Edited by Bombast, 25 October 2016 - 02:59 PM.

[Bud Crue]

As to the thread title: In other, older, something, video games.

As to your OP: that last sentence pretty much sums it up.

[Gas Guzzler]

How is the cUAC5 like a rotary autocannon?

[Digous]

Gas Guzzler, on 25 October 2016 - 02:58 PM, said:

How is the cUAC5 like a rotary autocannon?

They jam.

[Bombast]

Digous, on 25 October 2016 - 02:59 PM, said:

They jam.

...Ultras jam.

[Mcgral18]

Streak MRMs?
Those do not exist


Someone's played MW4 and had their BattleTech poisoned

[Digous]

Bombast, on 25 October 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

...Ultras jam.

http://www.sarna.net...tary_Autocannon

Bombast, on 25 October 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

...Ultras jam.

Originally Ultra Autocannons are simply AC's with a better rate of fire, while rotaty autocannon can double tap and jam.

Edited by Digous, 25 October 2016 - 03:05 PM.

[Dee Eight]

Bombast, on 25 October 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

Wrong Time Frame^TM

EDIT: More specifically, it's only 3051 at the moment, and most of those don't show up until at least 3056ish. I think there's some hope that they'll announce a time jump at MechCon.

Its actually 3053, or will be the moment the Bushwacker is delivered. The problem is no new weapons arrive into the inner sphere until 3057.

As to ultra's and Rotarys...

All autocannons and ultra autocannons are supposed to be SINGLE barrel affairs which might fire multiple rounds that collectively, 1 shot worth of ammo does whatever rating of damage of that AC class. A Imperator B AC/10 at 150mm caliber might only need ONE shell to do that damage whereas another brand using an 80mm caliber might use a burst of shells to do the same ten damage. Ultras simply improve the feed rate to allow double-cyclic shots.

Rotary Autocannons use multiple barrels, like today's vulcan and goalkeeper gatling guns.

MWO's has artistically chosen to represent Ultra ACs as having multiple barrels, and that all clan ACs and UAC's fire a stream of shells (which would be correct to battletech) but IS ACs and UACs only fire single shots (which would be incorrect for the smaller ratings).

Edited by Dee Eight, 25 October 2016 - 03:13 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Digous, on 25 October 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net...tary_Autocannon



Originally Ultra Autocannons are simply AC's with a better rate of fire, while rotaty autocannon can double tap and jam.

...

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ultra_AC/5

[Digous]

Mcgral18, on 25 October 2016 - 03:06 PM, said:

...

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ultra_AC/5

Well both jam =p

[Felicitatem Parco]

Yeah, RAC/5's are different than UAC/5's in that UAc/5s can doubletap at the risk of jamming, and RAC/5's can Hexatap at the risk of jamming between each additional tap.

[Bombast]

Dee Eight, on 25 October 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

Its actually 3053, or will be the moment the Bushwacker is delivered. The problem is no new weapons arrive into the inner sphere until 3057.

https://mwomercs.com/clock

3051.

Though... yah, kind of weird. We're getting a guaranteed 1 year jump when the Bushwacker is introduced. Not too hard to imagine they may say 'screw it' and jump all the way to 3058.

EDIT: Not that we're getting 3058 weapons, though, or else the Bushwacker BSW-S2 would be a thing.

Digous, on 25 October 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net...tary_Autocannon

I'm a FedRat. I know what a RAC is.

Quote

Originally Ultra Autocannons are simply AC's with a better rate of fire, while rotaty autocannon can double tap and jam.

RACs do not just double tap. They can sextuple tap.

Ultras, depending on (Rule) version, do anything from fire faster, fire harder, fire twice as much, fire twice as much and jam, and fire twice as much and jam for the entire match.

Edited by Bombast, 25 October 2016 - 03:16 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Prosperity Park, on 25 October 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

Hexatap.

HOW CAN WE EVEN CLICK THAT FAST?

[Digous]

Bombast, on 25 October 2016 - 03:10 PM, said:

https://mwomercs.com/clock

3051.

Though... yah, kind of weird. We're getting a guaranteed 1 year jump when the Bushwacker is introduced. Not too hard to imagine they may say 'screw it' and jump all the way to 3058.

EDIT: Not that we're getting 3058 weapons, though, or else the Bushwacker BSW-S2 would be a thing.



I'm a FedRat. I know what a RAC is.



RACs do not just double tap. They can sextuple tap.

Ultras, depending on (Rule) version, do anything from fire faster, fire harder, fire twice as much, fire twice as much and jam, and fire twice as much and jam for the entire match.

Wow understood *_*

That said, my dire wolf would really like some 5x RAC loadout

[Bombast]

Digous, on 25 October 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

Wow understood *_*

That said, my dire wolf would really like some 5x RAC loadout

You'd have to wait until 3069 for that.

Unless, after years of holding the IS back due to a timeline, they decide to say 'screw it' and give the Clans everything the IS has as soon as it's introduced rather then making them wait.

But they'd never do that, I'm sure.

Edited by Bombast, 25 October 2016 - 03:27 PM.

[N0ni]

Gas Guzzler, on 25 October 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

HOW CAN WE EVEN CLICK THAT FAST?

https://cookie.riimu.net/speed/

Figure out how to improve your clicks.

[King Kahuna]

Light PPC

[AnTi90d]

My Atlas wants MRMs because he identifies as an overweight Akuma.

[Lyoto Machida]

Bombast, on 25 October 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

Wrong Time Frame^TM

EDIT: More specifically, it's only 3051 at the moment, and most of those don't show up until at least 3056ish. I think there's some hope that they'll announce a time jump at MechCon.

Also, as much as I like more weapons, can we get a full IS T2 range first, please?

Edit^2: Forgot about Arrow IV. That's not in for some fairly obvious (And borderline Useless/Overpowered) reason.

Dee Eight, on 25 October 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

Its actually 3053, or will be the moment the Bushwacker is delivered. The problem is no new weapons arrive into the inner sphere until 3057.

As to ultra's and Rotarys...

All autocannons and ultra autocannons are supposed to be SINGLE barrel affairs which might fire multiple rounds that collectively, 1 shot worth of ammo does whatever rating of damage of that AC class. A Imperator B AC/10 at 150mm caliber might only need ONE shell to do that damage whereas another brand using an 80mm caliber might use a burst of shells to do the same ten damage. Ultras simply improve the feed rate to allow double-cyclic shots.

Rotary Autocannons use multiple barrels, like today's vulcan and goalkeeper gatling guns.

MWO's has artistically chosen to represent Ultra ACs as having multiple barrels, and that all clan ACs and UAC's fire a stream of shells (which would be correct to battletech) but IS ACs and UACs only fire single shots (which would be incorrect for the smaller ratings).

Bombast, on 25 October 2016 - 03:10 PM, said:

https://mwomercs.com/clock

3051.

Though... yah, kind of weird. We're getting a guaranteed 1 year jump when the Bushwacker is introduced. Not too hard to imagine they may say 'screw it' and jump all the way to 3058.

EDIT: Not that we're getting 3058 weapons, though, or else the Bushwacker BSW-S2 would be a thing.



I'm a FedRat. I know what a RAC is.



RACs do not just double tap. They can sextuple tap.

Ultras, depending on (Rule) version, do anything from fire faster, fire harder, fire twice as much, fire twice as much and jam, and fire twice as much and jam for the entire match.

It's actually 2016 and the guy (or girl) who knew how to code them left the company.

Real world > BT world, in some cases.