52 replies to this topic

[Wil McCullough]

are you for real?

i play a brawler (4ersl,4 asrm6 mdd) and your lack of success with brawling has nothing to do with
a) your team
the map and
c) mm or light mechs (lol)

it has everything to do with you
a) going all "witness me" and running at 12 enemy mechs without backup
making the conscious effort to REMOVE ALL COMMUNICATION with your team and
c) refusing to own up to your own f-ups.

what do you expect to happen when you banzai charge an enemy that outnumbers you 12-1, refuse to talk to your team or even read/hear what strategy they're using? i mean, technology hasn't progressed far enough so that people can read your bloody mind through their screen.

you don't want to follow their strategy, but feel entitled to them following yours even while you don't communicate a frigging word with them?

i man, wow.

you're a real special snowflake aren't you?

[Vellron2005]

Non-participation is if you don't move the whole match, or if you are moving but are the last guy and undamaged, cose' did not engage the enemy or did anything useful the whole match.

Also, if you are the last guy, still have working weapons or consumables, and you power down and wait out the clock, when this does not benefit your team.

Those are the things I report for non-participation.

[Mystere]

MrMadguy, on 02 November 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

They violated rule, that forbids passive gameplay - camping, i.e. waiting for enemies to come to you, instead of moving towards them. And with their support my "suicide" wouldn't be a suicide. So it's my team, that "killed" me - not myself.

That's hilarious, justifying your own failures by blaming your teammates.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

fight with the team , nor against the Strategy from the Team ...the Team is camping, wait of the Enemy Push ,thats the right Time for you as Brawler...trying , forced the own team to your own Tactic is not Teamplay

[MrMadguy]

Yeah... "Bring terrible map" system definitely works again. First match of the day. Yeah. And second match with such map rotation will be last one. Cuz I'm getting sick of this Frozen City crap. We don't need another "Viridian Bog syndrome", sorry.

[Lyoto Machida]

MrMadguy, on 03 November 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

Yeah... "Bring terrible map" system definitely works again. First match of the day. Yeah. And second match with such map rotation will be last one. Cuz I'm getting sick of this Frozen City crap. We don't need another "Viridian Bog syndrome", sorry.

Are you giving up posting for the day also? You should turn off forum all-chat as well.

[El Bandito]

MrMadguy, on 03 November 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

Yeah... "Bring terrible map" system definitely works again. First match of the day. Yeah. And second match with such map rotation will be last one. Cuz I'm getting sick of this Frozen City crap. We don't need another "Viridian Bog syndrome", sorry.

Then I don't think MWO is the right game for you.

Lyoto Machida, on 03 November 2016 - 09:51 AM, said:

Are you giving up posting for the day also? You should turn off forum all-chat as well.

He should also turn off all forum notifications, and put as many forumers on the ignore list as possible.

Edited by El Bandito, 03 November 2016 - 09:53 AM.

[WarHippy]

Bombast, on 02 November 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

See you tomorrow.

Shouldn't you update your signature, since you obviously haven't quit this game?

Well his signature says "I quit this game, till it won't be fixed" so maybe he is of the opinion it won't be fixed so he is playing again per his signature?

[meteorol]

MrMadguy, on 02 November 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

So. Who is wrong and who is right? My 'Mech didn't have any sniping capabilities. I decided to do, what I was supposed to do in my build - to brawl. My team hasn't supported me. They violated rule, that forbids passive gameplay - camping, i.e. waiting for enemies to come to you, instead of moving towards them. And with their support my "suicide" wouldn't be a suicide. So it's my team, that "killed" me - not myself

Actually, you decided to throw away your mech, which is not what you were supposed to do. There is no rule that forbids passive gameplay. Your team decided to play a passive approach and they were in no way obliged to play in a different way just because you brought a brawling mech.

You dropped on a (now) long range map with a brawling mech. Well, tough luck. Happens to everyone from time to time. If your team wants to trade, you are doomed to sit there and wait until something happens. Chances are the match is already lost by that time. A brawlers destiny in the soloqueue. If your team decides to trade you have to play with them even if you are in a brawling mech, for better or for worse.

Your death is on yourself, and not a single person on your team but you was responsible for it. You literally threw away your mech. You. Not your team. But judging from the posts of yours i have seen, you surely do like blaming everyone and everything but yourself for your own shortcomings.

Edited by meteorol, 03 November 2016 - 10:18 AM.

[Excessive Paranoia]

I think the OP has forgotten that this is a team game and, barring a few extremely specific situations (none of which include going kamikaze as a solo brawler against a fresh enemy team), you must work with your team to win. If you don't like the strategy your team is following, take the initiative and lead them in a different direction. That would require actually communicating with your team, however, which you've already admitted that you block (which IMO shouldn't even be possible in a team game), so I don't see you attempting this. What it really sounds like is that you shouldn't be playing a team based game since you refuse to be a part of your team.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

You will fast Soloplay with no tactical Sense ,Kills after 1 Minute and only Rambostyleplay ...not play Mechwarrior ,go to CS,CoD or Battlefield Close Quater maps with no Vehicle or Metro...The build is to specific for a Playstyle=fail of most maps ..use ECM, Radar Dep.Modules, Cover ,AMS ...thats all avaible Options ...and a must have ,you play in higher tiers against Teams with Communicating Tools and Teamplay!!!!!

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 08 November 2016 - 03:23 AM.

[chucklesMuch]

This is a troll post right!?

How to be farmed in two easy steps...

1) Turn off any and all voices that might try to help/stop you
2) Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jennnnnnnnnkinnnnnnnnnnnnnns!

(And good news... you don't need to wait to watch what happens to you team to try this again.... simply disconnect choose another mech... and find a new QP match... people do love more farming options)

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Please PGI fix Mates like MrMadGuy (name is Program?)

[Brother MEX]

Today I got reported by my teammates for NON-PARTICIPATION because I WON THE GAME !

We were playing Domination in River City and after killing 3 enemy mech my frontside and my backside armor was gone and I also had spent all my MRM ammo.
Noticing that my remaining teammates were too weak to kill the remaining enemies I decided to hide my mech inside the circle as we were more than 30 secounds ahead in time.
As I feared a light and a Stormcow survived from the enemy team, and started to destroy our bases ... but we were still ahead in time.

For several minutes the 2 remaining enemy players tried to find me,
walking past me at least 2 times ( I seem to have the PHANTOM MECH ability ;-P )
until the 15min were finally over and I had WON THE GAME !

[redacted]

Edited by Ekson Valdez, 17 December 2020 - 11:22 PM.

[Trucker Wifey]

Non-participation is sitting around doing, nill... Weather it is camping, or spawning, and moving, but, nothing more... I face tank **** a lot without caring, and worrying about the rest of the team, or stats, or anything else related. I'm not in the mood to sit around, and play with myself, if I wanted to do that, I wouldn't be playing games...

Yeah, I push, I push hard, and almost always in advance of the rest of my team, as they are slow, or scared, either way I die, and move on to the next round without any caring in the world... Suiciding, might be a step in the right direction to drop PSR as is my goal, but, getting reported for it, well, can result in things that I do not wish to happen...

Brother MEX, on 17 December 2020 - 04:12 PM, said:

Today I got reported by my teammates for NON-PARTICIPATION because I WON THE GAME !

We were playing Domination in River City and after killing 3 enemy mech my frontside and my backside armor was gone and I also had spent all my MRM ammo.
Noticing that my remaining teammates were too weak to kill the remaining enemies I decided to hide my mech inside the circle as we were more than 30 secounds ahead in time.
As I feared a light and a Stormcow survived from the enemy team, and started to destroy our bases ... but we were still ahead in time.

For several minutes the 2 remaining enemy players tried to find me,
walking past me at least 2 times ( I seem to have the PHANTOM MECH ability ;-P )
until the 15min were finally over and I had WON THE GAME !

Just a few minutes ago I received a 48 suspension from GM Paitience,
with no chance to talk with the staff from PGI as they are in holidays until next year.

This is ********... Perhaps at the start of the round, we should just start reporting everyone for everything...

I have to correct myself a ltitle here... Non-Participation according to the in game reporting tool, is "Suiciding" or "AFK". I guess you have to look up definition of suiciding, however, if you did damage, it would not be classified as suiciding, and you lived throughout the entire round. AFK, would be just that, AFK, in which case, you were not either...

Personally I am going to play to my play style, regardless of what anyone else thinks...

Edited by Swamp Ass, 17 December 2020 - 05:57 PM.

[Trucker Wifey]

[color=#CCCCCC]
Out of all the Code of Conduct guidelines, the interpretation of what constitutes non-participation is probably the most commonly debated.[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
The purpose of the information below is to clarify our policies on non-participation, and to outline what can be classified as non-participation.[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
Going AFK (away from keyboard)[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
The absence of even one player in a match can directly impact the playing experience and level of enjoyment for all other players in that match. Initiating the search for a match should be seen as an unspoken commitment to all other players who will be placed into the same match.[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
We completely understand that life goes on regardless of your participation in a game, but walking away from the computer or alt+tabbing out to browse the internet after initiating a match and not returning in time to provide meaningful assistance to your teammates are considered acts of non-participation.[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
Shutting Down your ‘Mech or avoiding engagements with the enemy, and when doing so might be considered non-participation[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
All pilots have access to a Shutdown command for their ‘Mechs, mapped by default to the ‘P’ key and listed as ‘Toggle Power’ in the keyboard menu.[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
The primary benefit to shutting down your ‘Mech is that it will no longer appear on enemy radar. In the deciding moments of a close match with few ‘Mechs left standing on the battlefield, effective use of the shutdown mechanic and/or evasion tactics has the potential to provide you with the following benefits:[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
[/color]

• Breaking a target lock
  
• Appearing ‘heat neutral’ on maps where Thermal Vision might commonly be used
  
• Presenting on opportunity for staging an ambush
  
• Evading detection long enough to secure a win through Conquest points
  
• Evading detection long enough to secure a timer expiration win when you have superior numbers, in circumstances where you may be too critically damaged to otherwise risk a direct engagement with the enemy

[color=#CCCCCC]
[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
The above situations are considered to be within the scope of what the shutdown mechanic or evasion tactics are intended to be used for.[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
There are situations that do not fall within the scope of what the shutdown mechanic or evasion tactics are intended for. The use of the shutdown mechanic or avoiding contact with the enemy under the following situations may be classed as an act of non-participation, subject to evaluation and moderation actions by Support services:[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
[/color]

• Ceasing to meaningfully contribute for the remainder of the match if you still have support equipment, useful modules, or weapons (with any necessary ammo) available. Losing your primary weapon is not an acceptable excuse for hiding and/or shutting down if you still have a secondary weapon, a support-based item such as a TAG, or a consumable module available for use.
  
• Running out the clock, or needlessly extending the duration of the match, in cases where doing so will not assist you towards victory.
  
• Running out the clock or needlessly extending the duration of a Faction Play match in an attempt to keep a particular group or Unit in the current engagement for as long as possible, in cases where doing so will not assist you towards victory, is not considered an acceptable tactic.

[color=#CCCCCC]
[/color]
[color=#CCCCCC]
Disliking a map or game mode or attempting to preserve a player statistic such as Kill/Death Ratio are not acceptable excuses for non-participation.[/color]

[Knight Captain Morgan]

Brother MEX, on 17 December 2020 - 04:12 PM, said:

Today I got reported by my teammates for NON-PARTICIPATION because I WON THE GAME !

We were playing Domination in River City and after killing 3 enemy mech my frontside and my backside armor was gone and I also had spent all my MRM ammo.
Noticing that my remaining teammates were too weak to kill the remaining enemies I decided to hide my mech inside the circle as we were more than 30 secounds ahead in time.
As I feared a light and a Stormcow survived from the enemy team, and started to destroy our bases ... but we were still ahead in time.

For several minutes the 2 remaining enemy players tried to find me,
walking past me at least 2 times ( I seem to have the PHANTOM MECH ability ;-P )
until the 15min were finally over and I had WON THE GAME !

Just a few minutes ago I received a 48 suspension from GM Paitience,
with no chance to talk with the staff from PGI as they are in holidays until next year.

Lucky for you, PGI doesn't care jack **** about player reports be they AFK reports for hiding in the drop zones or non-participation reports for not fighting, or even team damage reports for shooting me in the back.

[Elizander]

The bad part about being a brawler is your window to do anything is limited. Sometimes I can flank and get 2-3 kills from behind early, but for the most part it doesn't work out. If you hide in the back and cower/save armor until the enemy is damaged and pushes, then you can most likely get more things done. Watching the mini-map and waiting for the right time is a big part of it too. A part of it will always be RNG on enemy movement and actions.

Yeah, sitting and doing nothing for 6-8 minutes and hiding behind a wall is sometimes the best thing to do as a brawler. Having an AMS helps make you not feel useless during that time.

Edited by Elizander, 17 December 2020 - 06:44 PM.

[Bud Crue]

Holy necro. Well raised.

[RickySpanish]

Bud Crue, on 17 December 2020 - 06:56 PM, said:

Holy necro. Well raised.

The MWO community is absolutely superbly good at thread necro. I've honestly never seen anything else like it. They're almost better at thread necro than whinging and moaning... Almost