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[Stone Wall]

PGI says they noticed weapons that need to be balanced after the PTS. Do you guys know which ones might be nerfed/buffed? I didn't follow along the whole time.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

If I saw correctly, the big ones are the ERLL/LL/LPL series, and the CERPPC.

CERPPC is getting its splash removed and having its damage bumped up to the full 15, but has its CD upped to 6.8sec.
LL/LPL/ERLL is getting burn time reductions across the board, last I checked.

[Duke Nedo]

I smell disaster.

[El Bandito]

I personally want the AC5 1.5 heat increase, and LRM20 buffs from the PTS.

[SpiralFace]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 03 November 2016 - 03:35 AM, said:

If I saw correctly, the big ones are the ERLL/LL/LPL series, and the CERPPC.

CERPPC is getting its splash removed and having its damage bumped up to the full 15, but has its CD upped to 6.8sec.
LL/LPL/ERLL is getting burn time reductions across the board, last I checked.

The final PTS removed the 15 Damage PPC. I doubt they will bring it back.

The Large laser family got "rearranged" throughout the PTS. Most did get duration buffs, but they also got damage nerfs.

[RestosIII]

El Bandito, on 03 November 2016 - 04:03 AM, said:

I personally want the AC5 1.5 heat increase, and LRM20 buffs from the PTS.

Same, but I REALLY don't want the LRM 5 or SRM nerfs.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Are they going to make Clan Gauss balanced a little?

[Deathlike]

Prosperity Park, on 03 November 2016 - 10:26 AM, said:

Are they going to make Clan Gauss balanced a little?

[Felicitatem Parco]

Deathlike, on 03 November 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:

Are they going to make the IS ML comparable in any way to the CERML?

[FupDup]

The nerfs that I remember:

Global 15% firing rate reduction
Cooldown modules nerfed
Heat capacity
Heat dissipation
SRM spread
LRM5 spread and cooldown
IS LL damage, heat, and duration
IS LPL damage and heat
C UAC/20 (longer jam time)
All class-5 Autocannons (massive cooldown nerf, 50% heat nerf)
Gauss Rifle cooldown and max range (2x instead of 3x)
PPC cooldown
Clan LPL damage and range


The buffs:

Clan ERLL
Clan ERML
Maybe IS ERLL (sort of half and half)
LRM 10/15/20 spread
PPC anti-ECM effect duration

Edited by FupDup, 03 November 2016 - 10:50 AM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

LRM20 and LRM15 spread get buffs

[Jman5]

From what I remember these were some of the major changes.

1. Global 15% weapon cooldown increase
2. Nerf Cooldown module
3. PPC anti-ecm buff (10 seconds for IS ER PPC)
4. Double Heatsink: Capacity nerf, dissipation buff
5. Dynamic Utra AC jam time/rate. small weapons lower time, lower rate, higher UAC higher jam time/rate.
6. Ultra AC/5 heat increase
7. LRM 5 nerf, LRM 10, 15, 20 buff to cooldown/heat.
8. Large laser and LPL damage nerf
9. Pulse laser cooldown buff
10. Guass Cooldown increase

So expect at least some of these.

[Requiemking]

Prosperity Park, on 03 November 2016 - 10:31 AM, said:

Are they going to make the IS ML comparable in any way to the CERML?

Nope, and doing so would be a waste of time. They'd be better off adding IS ERML and Clan HML and balancing against those instead.

[FupDup]

Requiemking, on 03 November 2016 - 10:43 AM, said:

Nope, and doing so would be a waste of time. They'd be better off adding IS ERML and Clan HML and balancing against those instead.

It's not that hard.

Restoring the IS ML to 3 heat would create a more distinguished advantage of sustained damage over time at closer ranges, compared to the hotter (now twice the heat) but longer-reaching Clam ERML.

[Y E O N N E]

IS LL and ERLL had their durations matched to 1.1 seconds, so that was a very minor buff to the ER and a larger nerf to the standard.

Both are net nerfed due to damage reduction. It was very, very bad.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Requiemking, on 03 November 2016 - 10:43 AM, said:

Nope, and doing so would be a waste of time. They'd be better off adding IS ERML and Clan HML and balancing against those instead.

Add weapons? Ha! What do you think this is, a game where no weapons have ben added for years resulting in staleness...?

[kapusta11]

Gauss max range was nerfed too. It was pretty sad weapon.

[FupDup]

kapusta11, on 03 November 2016 - 10:49 AM, said:

Gauss max range was nerfed too. It was pretty sad weapon.

To be fair, it was a little strange that the Goose Waffle didn't get the same 2x max range nerf that all other ballistics got during that time period way back when.

[Requiemking]

FupDup, on 03 November 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:

It's not that hard.

Restoring the IS ML to 3 heat would create a more distinguished advantage of sustained damage over time at closer ranges, compared to the hotter (now twice the heat) but longer-reaching Clam ERML.

And why would this be any better than adding the IS equivalent then balancing them against each other? As for IS Standard ML, balance it against the Clan HML, which has higher heat and takes one more crit space over the IS ML, but has way higher damage.

[Y E O N N E]

kapusta11, on 03 November 2016 - 10:49 AM, said:

Gauss max range was nerfed too. It was pretty sad weapon.

Barely registered, actually. The longer cooldown did more to hurt it than anything else.