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[Emden]

Valore said a couple years ago what is below.... is this still true?

"Artemis does NOTHING to Streaks.

When you buy Artemis, all your NON-STREAK SRM and LRM pods take up one additional crit slot and weigh an additional ton each.

These SRM/LRM pods now have a smaller spread with the missiles, so like someone mentioned, instead of a shotgun type effect, you get a more concentrated damage pattern.

PS, SRMs don't need a lock to fire. And Artemis does not increase lock speed. So again, please don't confuse people by giving them info that's completely wrong."

Sooooo, Artemis will do more damage and knock off a component faster then not, using SRMs... No lock needed, just point and shoot.... is there an optimal range for SRMs when Artemis pays off?

[Bandilly]

Artemis increases lock speed (50%?), making it a boost for streaks w/o having to paying any extra tonnage or slots.

[Otto Cannon]

Emden, on 08 November 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Valore said a couple years ago what is below.... is this still true?

"Artemis does NOTHING to Streaks.

When you buy Artemis, all your NON-STREAK SRM and LRM pods take up one additional crit slot and weigh an additional ton each.

These SRM/LRM pods now have a smaller spread with the missiles, so like someone mentioned, instead of a shotgun type effect, you get a more concentrated damage pattern.

PS, SRMs don't need a lock to fire. And Artemis does not increase lock speed. So again, please don't confuse people by giving them info that's completely wrong."

Sooooo, Artemis will do more damage and knock off a component faster then not, using SRMs... No lock needed, just point and shoot.... is there an optimal range for SRMs when Artemis pays off?

It does speed up lock on streaks for free, and it tightens spread on SRM/LRM.

It's worth using on SRM6, but not on SRM2. It's arguable whether it's worth bothering on SRM4.

[Lyoto Machida]

Emden, on 08 November 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Valore said a couple years ago what is below.... is this still true?

"Artemis does NOTHING to Streaks.

When you buy Artemis, all your NON-STREAK SRM and LRM pods take up one additional crit slot and weigh an additional ton each.

These SRM/LRM pods now have a smaller spread with the missiles, so like someone mentioned, instead of a shotgun type effect, you get a more concentrated damage pattern.

PS, SRMs don't need a lock to fire. And Artemis does not increase lock speed. So again, please don't confuse people by giving them info that's completely wrong."

Sooooo, Artemis will do more damage and knock off a component faster then not, using SRMs... No lock needed, just point and shoot.... is there an optimal range for SRMs when Artemis pays off?

Artemis doesn't increase lock speeds...that's news to me.

People usually mix up targeting info (paper doll) speed and lock speed but that doesn't sound like the case here.

[Navid A1]

Artemis is a must if you have streaks.

it speeds up lock by 50%

[Gas Guzzler]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 November 2016 - 02:56 PM, said:

Artemis doesn't increase lock speeds...that's news to me.

People usually mix up targeting info (paper doll) speed and lock speed but that doesn't sound like the case here.

Artemis DOES speed up locks for streaks. It has been that way every since I started playing. It may not be intended, but that is how it was implemented.

[Rhialto]

Video proof or it didn't happen.

[Lyoto Machida]

Gas Guzzler, on 08 November 2016 - 03:08 PM, said:

Artemis DOES speed up locks for streaks. It has been that way every since I started playing. It may not be intended, but that is how it was implemented.

I wasn't referring to SSRMs...just locks in general. Hence why I was saying "that's news to me." I thought he was saying that Artemis does nothing to speed up locks for LRMs and SSRMs. He mentioned SRMs (which obviously don't require locks in this game) right before saying they don't increase lock speeds so I was assuming he was referring to LRMs and SSRMs.

I guess I should have wrote it as:

"Artemis doesn't increase lock speeds? That's news to me."

The OP itself is kind of confusing...he's asking if what someone wrote before is true regarding the effects of Artemis on SSRMs and then ends the post asking about SRMs. Shoulda threw in a line about LRMs to make it even more muddied.

[Gas Guzzler]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 November 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

I wasn't referring to SSRMs...just locks in general. Hence why I was saying "that's news to me." I thought he was saying that Artemis does nothing to speed up locks for LRMs and SSRMs. He mentioned SRMs (which obviously don't require locks in this game) right before saying they don't increase lock speeds so I was assuming he was referring to LRMs and SSRMs.

I guess I should have wrote it as:

"Artemis doesn't increase lock speeds? That's news to me."

The OP itself is kind of confusing...he's asking if what someone wrote before is true regarding the effects of Artemis on SSRMs and then ends the post asking about SRMs. Shoulda threw in a line about LRMs to make it even more muddied.

Ohh gotcha, I see what you meant now.

Still, some on this forum need to read that post anyway because they still don't get it.

[Lyoto Machida]

Gas Guzzler, on 08 November 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

Ohh gotcha, I see what you meant now.

Still, some on this forum need to read that post anyway because they still don't get it.

The ironic part is...I don't think it states anywhere about the Artemis "bug" so if someone doesn't come to the forums or doesn't search for it themselves, they really wouldn't be able to find info about Artemis and interaction with SSRMs in game or on the MWO site (the site itself, not the forums).

From Sarna...I don't have my 3050 Technical Readout handy or I'd verify if this is true or not From my hazy memories of 20 years ago, it sounds right:

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The only disadvantages are that Streak launchers are incompatible with other missile target acquisition technologies such as the Artemis IV FCS and Narc Missile Beacon, their specialized ammunition is much more expensive, and some users are willing to accept partial hits rather than not be able to fire on demand.[2]

[Gas Guzzler]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 November 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

The ironic part is...I don't think it states anywhere about the Artemis "bug" so if someone doesn't come to the forums or doesn't search for it themselves, they really wouldn't be able to find info about Artemis and interaction with SSRMs in game or on the MWO site (the site itself, not the forums).

From Sarna...I don't have my 3050 Technical Readout handy or I'd verify if this is true or not From my hazy memories of 20 years ago, it sounds right:

Yeah I know :/ I know when I was new, I just turned artemis on just in case.

[DAYLEET]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 November 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

The ironic part is...I don't think it states anywhere about the Artemis "bug" so if someone doesn't come to the forums or doesn't search for it themselves, they really wouldn't be able to find info about Artemis and interaction with SSRMs

You pretty much summed up the whole game mechanic.

[Bandilly]

Actually I discovered this on my own a few months back when I first started, I just happened to mix LRMs and streaks on the same mech.