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[Tristan Winter]

So I listened to NGNG's latest podcast, and apparently PGI has been so busy with the major stuff they've been working on lately (presumably Infotech, new Skill trees and Assault 2.0) that they haven't really decided on what their next move will be.

Apparently, Solaris is considered, but nothing is certain.

I have to say, I'm kind of surprised (yes, really) by how few long term plans appear to be in place. For example, I always figured they had a long term plan for Community Warfare / Faction Play, but the first (and only) roundtable seemed to reveal there was no long term plan. They had a bunch of different options, and were open to all of them. Maybe they would even use the current QP format for FP matches, since QP was so popular. They didn't know.

And for a while I was wondering how QP and FP would fit together with Solaris. Was QP the prototype for Solaris? Or was it always their plan to use QP as part of FP, and then make Solaris something completely different, with Solaris maps and Solaris game modes?

So I guess this answers one of my questions. "Why isn't PGI sharing any information about long term plans, to keep players invested and interested in the future of MWO?" Well, because there are no long term plans. They won't decide what to do with Solaris until early 2017, apparently. And why aren't they talking about PVE? It seems to follow that they don't have any concrete plans for PVE either, since Russ was uncertain what the "next big thing" would be.

No point in writing dev logs and making vlogs about stuff they don't know what to do with.

Also, Russ also explained that this late summer / autumn had been really light on content (other than mech packs) because of the major features they are revealing for Mechcon. So it may seem like they haven't been doing anything, but apparently they've been really busy. I guess Big Things are coming in December.

[FupDup]

Given that CW was years late, I wouldn't expect anything different for Solaris.

[Mystere]

Tristan Winter, on 11 November 2016 - 04:53 PM, said:

Also, Russ also explained that this late summer / autumn had been really light on content (other than mech packs) because of the major features they are revealing for Mechcon. So it may seem like they haven't been doing anything, but apparently they've been really busy. I guess Big Things are coming in December.

I have this extremely nagging suspicion there is a really good reason for the name "MechCON".

[BLOOD WOLF]

I don't even know what you are expecting out of this thread. Nobody here is privy to what they have in the pipeline and you are already making speculations about what they don't plan to do.

mech con has not even passed and already drawing conclusions out of thin air.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 11 November 2016 - 05:03 PM.

[Tristan Winter]

BLOOD WOLF, on 11 November 2016 - 05:01 PM, said:

I don't even know what you are expecting out of this thread.

Trying to make you change your sig again?

Mystere, on 11 November 2016 - 04:56 PM, said:

I have this extremely nagging suspicion there is a really good reason for the name "MechCON".

Final solution for the bittervets?

Edited by Tristan Winter, 11 November 2016 - 05:04 PM.

[Deathlike]

Sounds legit. This is PGI. Let's worry about it later.... 60-90 days later, and repeat that motto then.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Tristan Winter, on 11 November 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

Trying to make you change your sig again?


Ultimate solution for the bittervets?

doesn't make the thread any less arbitrary. essentially playing miss cleo and trying to predict the future. mechcon so hard to wait for?

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 11 November 2016 - 05:06 PM.

[Mystere]

Tristan Winter, on 11 November 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

Final solution for the bittervets?

I doubt it. Otherwise instead of "Big Things", they would have used "YUUUUUUUUGE THINGS!!!".

[Johnny Z]

First of all everyone here has to admit that if it were them they wouldn't be saying much either and saving it all for Mech Con as well. Anyone says they would do different is not being truthful.

Second, this coming update is still quite large considering.

Solaris? They got to balance it with faction play and who knows what else, putting a lot of time into it as well I guess. Anyones guess whats up with that.

[Tristan Winter]

Johnny Z, on 11 November 2016 - 05:08 PM, said:

First of all everyone here has to admit that if it were them they wouldn't be saying much either and saving it all for Mech Con as well. Anyone says they would do different is not being truthful.

Anyone who disagrees with you is being dishonest. Gotcha.

I guess there's not much to discuss, really.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

Mystere, on 11 November 2016 - 04:56 PM, said:

I have this extremely nagging suspicion there is a really good reason for the name "MechCON".

They're unveiling aerotech fighters.

All part of a secret black bag development program code named CON AIR.

[Johnny Z]

Tristan Winter, on 11 November 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

Anyone who disagrees with you is being dishonest. Gotcha.

I guess there's not much to discuss, really.

You wouldn't be saving up almost as much content as possible for Mech Con? They got to have some in reserve for the new year for breathing room, but your saying you wouldn't go this route?

[DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley]

Yup I'm going to MechCon for autographs. That's all I have to look forward to after hearing no set direction. I've seen like 30 threads and 1000's of posts for PVE.

Even the low expectations I had set for the event were too high. Achievement Unlocked

Johnny Z, on 11 November 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

You wouldn't be saving up almost as much content as possible for Mech Con? They got to have some in reserve for the new year for breathing room, but your saying you wouldn't go this route?

What content? How is not telling the people the direction of you game not a priority at the event you keep telling people to look for information?

[Johnny Z]

DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 11 November 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

Yup I'm going to MechCon for autographs. That's all I have to look forward to after hearing no set direction. I've seen like 30 threads and 1000's of posts for PVE.

Even the low expectations I had set for the event were too high. Achievement Unlocked


What content? How is not telling the people the direction of you game not a priority at the event you keep telling people to look for information?

I couldn't agree more but at this point whats there to say? They wont be saying anything until Mech Con and no one can blame them.

I used to make jokes like "Solaris first quarter 2022" but the game has since been updating a lot quicker with "hints" that big updates and features are on the way. The comm wheel is finally in and decals, basics that needed to be added, test maps for Solaris are even in now. What more is there to say, its a wait and see thing now.

Edited by Johnny Z, 11 November 2016 - 05:27 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Johnny Z, on 11 November 2016 - 05:22 PM, said:

They wont be saying anything until Mech Con and no one can blame them.

wrong there, if that were the case, this thread would not have been made. The OP is assuming since nothing is being said that means nothing is either being done or there are no plans. Is that a fair assessment?

I also don't know if this is just pertaining to Solaris or and general statement of MWO moving in 2017.

In the end who knows, better to wait till mechcon, since it literally is a month or so away.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 11 November 2016 - 05:28 PM.

[Johnny Z]

BLOOD WOLF, on 11 November 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

wrong there, if that were the case, this thread would not have been made. The OP is assuming since nothing is being said that means nothing is either being done or there are no plans. Is that a fair assessment?

I also don't know if this is just pertaining to Solaris or and general statement of MWO moving in 2017.

In the end who knows, better to wait till mechcon, since it literally is a month or so away.

Your asking if Mech Con 2016 will be mediocre or not? I don't know. They wont say a word until then is a safe bet. Everyone would do the same.

Edited by Johnny Z, 11 November 2016 - 05:29 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Johnny Z, on 11 November 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

Your asking if Mech Con 2016 will be mediocre or not? I don't know.

What I am saying that making declarative statements about what is to be done in 2017 in the manner addressed in the opening post is unfounded.

If the OP rather just have a discussion on when Solaris might make an appearance, that is a discussion is worth having.

all we know is that they have at least more than a concept for 1v1 maps. what reason do they have to make a map that is 1v1 other than Solaris style game play.

whether it's coming in 2017, nobody knows.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 11 November 2016 - 05:33 PM.

[DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley]

You know we already play Solaris... I don't really get why people keep pushing for this... without a ne game engine allowing replay and spectate matches it will never be good.

If Solaris gets development time wasted on it and is put in the current state of the game.

Like I said about CW it will fail...

Now if it's under a new engine, has spectate matches feature, and a replay feature of up to last 5-10 matches it will successful.

That said it's been made clear

No pve
No new engine
No Mad Cat MK II at MechCon

Literally nothing other than a new grinding skill tree is getting announced.

It took a whole year for a skill tree!!

Edited by DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, 11 November 2016 - 05:34 PM.

[Tristan Winter]

BLOOD WOLF, on 11 November 2016 - 05:26 PM, said:

wrong there, if that were the case, this thread would not have been made. The OP is assuming since nothing is being said that means nothing is either being done or there are no plans. Is that a fair assessment?

Actually, I'm saying that since the president of PGI said they didn't have any definitive plans, there are no definitive plans. Solaris may be the next "big thing", or it may not. Maybe it'll be PVE. Maybe it'll be CW Phase 4. They don't know.

There's not a whole lot of stuff that needs to be assumed when he goes right out and says they will decide what the next big thing is after MechCon. He wasn't being very vague about it.

DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 11 November 2016 - 05:32 PM, said:

It took a whole year for a skill tree!!

And Infotech.

Although Infotech was basically set up 2 years ago, I think. But then they took it out of the game to work on Energy Draw and FP instead.

[kuma8877]

I took what he said about the future of MWO, essentially, was that we'll be having a conversation about where to go after the CW release (my guess for the focus of Mechcon). It seems reasonable to me, that it has taken up the bulk of their workload (whatever that entails upon release) and the future hinges on that and how it's received. Once it's in (if), then we can have a real discussion about where MWO is heading.

They seem to want some feedback on those major changes first.

Edited by kuma8877, 11 November 2016 - 05:36 PM.